In 2012 55 operations were conducted by Turkish Army inside Iraq

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Turkey kills over 420 PKK terrorists in northern Iraq in 2012
During this period, around 55 anti-terrorist operations were conducted in the north of Iraq.
Turkey kills over 420 PKK terrorists in northern Iraq in 2012 - Trend.Az

With 420 killed in 55 operations it's an average of 7,3 terrorists killed per operation. An operation inside Iraq almost every week.
I wonder if this relatively big amount of violating Iraq's authority is a military necessity...
Maybe these frequent operations just happen because Turkey wants to send some messages.
 
Maybe its the continuing effort by Turkey to exterminate the Kurds which has been going on for many decades.
 
With 2013 approaching my 2012 review would be the following:
- killing Kurdish terrorists inside Iraq with operations almost on weekly basis
- massively destabilizing Syria to the point of Civil-War

Let's see what 2013 will bring.
 
Emotional impact assesment of Turkish military bases inside Iraq on the locals.

The security implications and emotional impact of having this military presence in northern Iraq has been documented by CPT.
Virtual Media Blackout on Turkey

http://www.cpt.org/files/CPT_Iraq_Bombing_Report.pdf

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Maybe its the continuing effort by Turkey to exterminate the Kurds which has been going on for many decades.

Exactly, turks are barbarian genocidal terrorists. They call the PKK terrorists, but how is this so? The PKK fights for freedom and without killing civillians, that's called freedom fighting. But those brain-dead goat f*cking turks are too stupid to realise that.
 
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With 2013 approaching my 2012 review would be the following:
- killing Kurdish terrorists inside Iraq with operations almost on weekly basis
- massively destabilizing Syria to the point of Civil-War

Let's see what 2013 will bring.

I don't believe in mongol lies:

Kurdish PKK rebels deny death of 373 of its guerrillas, in response to Turkey's allegation 12.9.2012

The PKK demanded Turkey's recognition of the Kurds' identity in its constitution and of their language as a native language along with Turkish in the country's Kurdish areas, the party also demanded an end to ethnic discrimination in Turkish laws and constitution against Kurds, ranting them full political freedoms. Photo: HPG September 12, 2012

QANDIL MOUNTAINS,— The Turkish army announced Monday that 373 Kurdish guerrillas of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) were killed in clashes during the past five months and the PKK rebuffed the statement.

The CNN Turkish news station quoted a statement issued by the Turkish General Staff as saying that 373 members of the PKK and 88 soldiers were killed in the past five months.

The PKK denied the news. The party said in a statement published by the pro-PKK Firat ANF news agency, that the clashes over the past five months left behind 1,035 soldiers and 101 PKK fighters dead.

Violence has increased recently in Turkey's Kurdish region in the southeast.

PKK is fighting for the autonomy of the Kurdish parts of Turkey and tens of millions of Kurds in the country.

The PKK has several times proposed peaceful solutions regarding Kurdish problem, Turkey has always refused saying that it will not negotiate with “terrorists”.

Since it was established in 1984, the PKK has been fighting the Turkish state, which still denies the constitutional existence of Kurds, to establish a Kurdish state in the south east of the country. More than 40,000 people have since been killed.

But now its aim is the creation an autonomous region and more cultural rights for ethnic Kurds who constitute the greatest minority in Turkey, numbering more than 20 million. A large Turkey's Kurdish community openly sympathise with the Kurdish PKK rebels.

The PKK wants constitutional recognition for the Kurds, regional self-governance and Kurdish-language education in schools.

PKK's demands included releasing PKK detainees, lifting the ban on education in Kurdish, paving the way for an autonomous democrat Kurdish system within Turkey, reducing pressure on the detained PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan, stopping military action against the Kurdish party and recomposing the Turkish constitution.

Turkey refuses to recognize its Kurdish population as a distinct minority. It has allowed some cultural rights such as limited broadcasts in the Kurdish language and private Kurdish language courses with the prodding of the European Union, but Kurdish politicians say the measures fall short of their expectations.
 
Turkish jets struck more than 50 PKK targets in northern Iraq where members of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) are based, military sources said Wednesday, AFP has reported.
LOCAL - Turkish jets pound 50 PKK targets in Iraq: sources

For first time NEB was used
F-16'lar Kandil'e gece yarisi 3 saat boyunca bomba yagdirdi

It is a bunker buster developed for the Airforce.

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Are you still dreaming of defeating the kurdish nation? And your lies of killing PKK members is just as pathetic, which reminds me: PKK are not terrorists, you basically admitted it yourself by failing to come up with a reason;)

Turkey= Terrorists. You occupied our lands, killed half a million of us, tried to erase our kurdish identity and killing and arresting innocent kurds for simply mentioning "rights"
Your state is living up to every terrorist expectations, much more than the PKK does.
 
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Published on: Tuesday 23 Aug 2011, 10:08 by Frederike Geerdink

Published in: daily paper nrc.next, oped-page, August 2011

Turkey is bombing PKK camps in Northern-Iraq in retaliation for the killing of soldiers by the PKK. The first civilian deaths have been reported. The EU doesn’t protest the violence, because the PKK is on the EU list of terrorist organizations. But the label ‘terrorist’ contributes to maintaining the crux of the problem, which is the still unsolved Kurdish issue. It’s about time we stopped referring to PKK fighters as ‘terrorists’.

There is no generally accepted, international definition of the term ‘terrorism’. That has everything to do with the eagerness of several political players to use and misuse the term, and their willingness to take advantage of it for their own purposes. The question whether an organization is terrorist or not is thus a purely political one. Also the decision of the EU to put the PKK on the list of terrorist organizations was political. It was taken in 2002, under heavy pressure from both Turkey and the United States. The United States needed Turkey’s friendship in their war on terror after the attacks in New York, and the best way to buy Turkish friendship is to call the PKK terrorists. The EU couldn’t be left behind.

That’s almost ten years ago now. At the time, there was some hope that governing party AKP, which came to power for the first time in 2002, would work on finding a solution to the long-lasting Kurdish issue. Not only by military means, as before, but by carrying out democratic reforms and thus taking away the breeding ground for ‘terrorism’. The AKP indeed took democratization seriously on several issues, and in 2005 the access negotiations between Turkey and the EU were opened.


Education in mother tongue

But the AKP, which has been governing alone since 2002, has not delivered on solving the Kurdish issue through democratic means. In 2009 a ‘Kurdish opening’ was announced, but it never really lead anywhere. Even when the PKK repeatedly respected months of lasting cease-fires and thus gave the government the chance to reform without being accused of ‘bending before terrorists’, nothing happened.

The Kurdish demands though, are not unreasonable. When the PKK started its violent political activism, in August 1984, an independent country was the goal. Now the organization strives for autonomy in the south-east of the country, which is mainly inhabited by Kurds. Other Kurdish demands: education in their mother tongue, the abolishment of the election threshold of ten percent, the release of Kurdish political prisoners. Most demands are not negotiable for Turkey. They erode the unity of the country, one of the sacred doctrines the nation state is built on.

Not only did the AKP refrain from doing anything concrete to solve the Kurdish issue, but there was even a tactic added to the arsenal with which the Kurdish people are being suppressed. In the eighties and nineties PKK fighters, Kurdish activists, politicians and intellectuals were killed in their thousands, while nowadays they are being prosecuted en masse. There are for example hundreds of Kurdish mayors and officials on trial for using their right to freedom of expression, referred to by Turkey as ‘making propaganda for a terrorist organization’. Kurdish journalists are still being locked up when they report on the Kurdish issue from a Kurdish perspective, and democratically elected politicians are banned from taking their seats in parliament because of legalistic arguments.


A sentence that suits a state of law

By labelling the PKK as ‘terrorist’, its legitimate goals are being branded as irrelevant too. And at the same time the label is used to justify violent and legal reprisals against Kurds. Every bomb on Northern Iraq is self defence against terrorism, every court verdict against a Kurdish politician a sentence that suits a state of law. It stirs up anger and frustration among Kurds – no wonder the number of youths wanting to join the PKK is on the rise, as became known last week. Politically they see no possibilities whatsoever, so they see no other option than to ‘go to the mountains’, as it’s described in Turkey.

The PKK cease-fire is over. Soldiers die. Young men, often conscript soldiers and mostly inexperienced. Which leads to Erdogan’s decision to start air strikes on PKK camps in Northern Iraq, because, as he said, ‘our patience has come to an end.’ It can hardly get more cynical than that. The international recognition of the PKK as a terrorist organization has a disastrous effect on any chance for peace. It maintains a circle of oppression and violence. Time for a new political signal: strike the PKK off the list of terrorist

Source: http://www.journalistinturkey.com/stories/politics/stop-labelling-pkk-fighters-as-terrorists_2350/
 
This is what we had been promised within the Treaty of Sevres, but as always we we're backstabbed by the treacherous turks and their leader Ataturk.
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Turks should take a good look at the current Turkey - It won't last much longer;)
 
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THE NEVER-ENDING OPPRESSION OF THE KURDS?

by Jiyan Azadi

The life of the Kurdish people has been dominated by numerous conflicts for decades. The Kurdish landscape has always been a region where armed struggles have been launched and the Kurdish people have fought against colonizing powers for a very long time. Several uprisings have been launched in the past 200 years such as Rewandûz, Bedirhan Bey, Yezdan Şêr, Agirî, Dêrsim, Simko Şikak, Ubeydullah, Koçgirî and so on. Consequently, the Kurdish people haven’t turned a blind eye and did not remain silent when they had been deprived of freedom. The oppression continues, and so does the resistance. Resistance has become a part of their life. Still, the Kurdish issue is awaiting a solution.

Even though Turkey is acclaimed as a democratic role model in the Middle East, the ruling Turkish AKP (Justice and Development Party) government is continuing to deny the Kurdish peoples civil rights. AKP has failed with its so called “democratic opening/Kurdish initiative”, because it hasn’t played with honest cards. Turkey began its witch hunt after the local elections in Turkey in April 2009 when pro-Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party (BDP) won 99 municipalities in the local elections in March 2009. More than 10,000 Kurds have been jailed in the last 3 years. Many solicitors, mayors, journalists, human right defenders, BDP members, unionists, students, mothers and children have been arrested within the scope of KCK (The Union of Communities in Kurdistan). About 181 Kurdish children have been killed since AKP came to power in 2002.

The Turkish government is systematically repressing the Kurds. It is engaged in a campaign of silencing the Turkish mainstream media to cover the events in the Kurdish region of southeastern Turkey. The Turkish government continues to practice state terror to extinguish Kurdish aspirations. Civil disobedience have become a regular event in Turkey.

On 12th of September Kurdish political prisoners decided to start a hunger strike. Today there are more than 780 Kurdish political prisoners on a indefinite and irreversible hunger strike in Turkish jails and the strike is expanding across Turkey. Kurdish political inmates’ strike enters 54th day as their health condition is deteriorating. They urge the Turkish government to end the isolation of the Kurdish PKK leader leader Abdullah Ocalan to negotiate a peaceful settlement, end the repression against the Kurdish people and the right to use their mother tongue in public spheres, which also includes the court. So far, no steps have been made by the Turkish government to fulfill the strikers’ demands and stop the hunger strikes. Kurds and political activists in eastern Kurdistan (Western Iran) have also launched hunger strikes in solidarity with the ongoing hunger strike in Turkish jails.

A legislative proposal about the right to speak in your native language is about to be introduced. The pro-Kurdish BDP enforced this proposal when the other three parties (AKP, MHP and CHP) rejected it in the parliament. Turkish AKP changed its mind one week after the BDP had introduced the bill. AKP friendly actors mean that the first step is to introduce eligible courses in Kurdish, and that it could possibly lead to that Kurdish can be spoken freely. This point will be actualised due to a strong Kurdish opposition in the Turkish system.

Turkey is continuing to conduct major crimes against the Kurdish people and the government is hiding its actions in southeastern Turkey. Roboski (Uludere) victims are still waiting for the Turkish government to try those ones who are responsible for the death of 34 Kurdish civilians who were killed in a Turkish airstrike on 28th of December 2011. And we all know that the Turkish military leadership and Erdogan’s government bear responsibility for the slaughter of Roboski. Eleven months have passed and the village of Roboski still waits for justice. Their voices are rarely heard.

The clashes between HPG (armed wing of PKK) and the Turkish Armed Forces began on 23 July 2012 in Şemdinli (Şemzînan). The Turkish army has deployed thousands of soldiers and military vehicles in the southeastern part of Turkey. Still, the army can’t finish the PKK. And the war continues in the southeastern region. Turkish government keep on spinning tales and fabricate spectacular victories that only exists in Turkish mainstream media. Turkish army has already lost southeastern Turkey to the superior HPG guerrillas. The retired major general Osman Pamukoğlu shocked Turkey when he said that “Turkey has lost Hakkari Province” on Turkish television (HaberTürk). Turkish PM Erdogan’s comment was the following:

“The prime minister indirectly criticized the leader of the Rights and Equality Party (HEPAR), retired Maj. Gen. Osman Pamukoğlu, by saying that some retired generals were saying on television that Turkey had lost Hakkari Province. Erdoğan accused Pamukoğlu of speaking nonsense and in a way that supports the PKK’s claims. “Why does he speak like that?””

Turkish army is lying about their exact casualties, but its made big losses and it also exaggerates the death toll of PKK members and their own losses. PKK continues to carry out its actions undisturbed. It is obvious that the PKK has changed its strategy. Before it used to “hit and leave”, but now the PKK “hit and control . The PKK has set up check-points and control the roads. It has stopped dozen of vehicles and torched some of them. Truckers and drivers have not been held as a hostage. The PKK has arrested some Turkish politicians, but later on released them. Notice that the movement has not abducted the politicians, it has in fact arrested them and judged them in KCK courts according to KCK laws. Operation Revolution continues.

As I am writing this, Deniz Kaya, spokesman for prisoners sentenced in PKK and PAJK cases has announced in a written statement that the hunger strike is taken to a higher level. Kaya stated that 10,000 more Kurdish political prisoners are going to join the ongoing indefinite and irreversible hunger strike on 5th of November 2012. He also stated that they are ready to pay any price for their freedom, leader and people and that the honourable resistance continues…

But why does the international community remain silent? Why not start a consultation process in order to end this war and further bloodshed? Why not solve this issue with the stroke of a pencil? End the oppression, give them the right to speak and defend themselves in their native language and end the isolation of the Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan. Just give the Kurdish people their freedom.

Source: The never-ending oppression of the Kurds? | Alliance for Kurdish Rights
 
Are the Kurds pro equal rights for women pro Israel and anti terrorism?

Generally I am not for creating even more countries and further dividing the human race so you have to convince me.
 
Are the Kurds pro equal rights for women pro Israel and anti terrorism?

Generally I am not for creating even more countries and further dividing the human race so you have to convince me.

Of course. We highly support equal rights for women and we have nothing against any country that sees us as friendly (Includes Israel) Actually an alliance with Israel would do very good for our situation.
Finally we also fight very hard against true terrorism (Not PKK) Our security forces in Western (Syrian) Kurdistan are currently up against Islamist groups sent down by Turkey.

Also keep in kind that ever since the occupation of the kurdish homeland, atleast a million of us have been killed. Uncountable thousands of kurdish kids below the age of 10 are locked up in turkish prisons simply for being the sons or daughters of kurdish politicians.
 
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Are the Kurds pro equal rights for women pro Israel and anti terrorism?

Generally I am not for creating even more countries and further dividing the human race so you have to convince me.

Yes. We have women warriors in the PKK and Peshmerga.

Here's a little album:

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You'll have to remove the space in order for it to work (do the same with the other links below). I don't have 15 posts yet.

Kurds tend to be more pro-Israel, since they've provided help to the PKK in the past. Also Kurds and Jews share one thing together that no other populationen on Earth shares; thousands of years of persecution.

Kurds in the South (Iraqi occupied Kurdistan) has a security force called Asaish. They have countered many terrorist attacks. Peshmerga too. Here's two videos, I quickly found.

A bit graphic.

youtube. com /watch?v=LOOki46JbO4

11 terrorists captured.

youtube. com/watchfeature=player_embedded&v=uDCJs37pbdI

In Syrian occupied Kurdistan, there's this Kurdish force called YPG. Recently, Turkey has sent in some islamic terrorists groups to Kurdish cities to undermine Kurdish self-rule, but YPG bravely, defeated all Turkish dirty games.

In Turkish occupied Kurdistan, the PKK mainly operates there. They're labeled as terrorists by Turkey, U.S & EU. However, we do not view them as terrorists, but rather as freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
I ask people, if PKK are terrorists, what about Turkey - Susurluk scandal, Ayhan Carkin? How do they explain that they dressed up as PKK and killed civilians, but fortunately caught by German agents?

Honestly, I'm not here to convince you. I'm here to give you another perspective on this. How you want to perceive it, is really up to you. No country should say that we cannot have our own country, because, we 40 million Kurds, will decide our own fate.
 
As an American born after our last state was formed I have a different view than many other parts of the world on nationalism or culturalism.

Pretty much I feel every ethnic group does not need its own country. They also need protection from persecution. It was just the 1960s when our own blacks were finally allowed equal rights in legal terms anyway when it came to attending schools or drinking from the same water fountain so I am not preaching.

I also look at Europeans who all look just like me in my eyes. Somehow they can tell eachother apart and have gone to war over it constantly. To me that is a sign the world would have been better off if logistics had the Poles intermingle with the Germans and French and Spanish and all until there was no difference.

Sorry for rambling. I am typing on the phone while watching the news.

Has Kurdistan ever more or less been a country or under its own rule?

I may have said this earlier but so far no Kurd has ever done anything to me and you all sound more reasonable than your neighbors so in many ways I would give half the middle east to you all if I could figure out a non genocidal way of doing it.
 
Has Kurdistan ever more or less been a country or under its own rule?

We have had countless countries in our modern area, however most of them we're before the arabic invasion of the Middle East, after that we did have many states, but they we're always opressed or crushed by the merciless enemy.

I may have said this earlier but so far no Kurd has ever done anything to me and you all sound more reasonable than your neighbors so in many ways I would give half the middle east to you all if I could figure out a non genocidal way of doing it.

Thank you, but we don't even want half of this region, simply the lands we populate will be enough, since we are not occupiers.
 

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