In 2012 55 operations were conducted by Turkish Army inside Iraq

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    Turkey kills over 420 PKK terrorists in northern Iraq in 2012 - Trend.Az

    With 420 killed in 55 operations it's an average of 7,3 terrorists killed per operation. An operation inside Iraq almost every week.
    I wonder if this relatively big amount of violating Iraq's authority is a military necessity...
    Maybe these frequent operations just happen because Turkey wants to send some messages.
     
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    Maybe its the continuing effort by Turkey to exterminate the Kurds which has been going on for many decades.
     
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    With 2013 approaching my 2012 review would be the following:
    - killing Kurdish terrorists inside Iraq with operations almost on weekly basis
    - massively destabilizing Syria to the point of Civil-War

    Let's see what 2013 will bring.
     
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    Exactly, turks are barbarian genocidal terrorists. They call the PKK terrorists, but how is this so? The PKK fights for freedom and without killing civillians, that's called freedom fighting. But those brain-dead goat f*cking turks are too stupid to realise that.
     
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    They are Only there for Barzani's own reasons, but of course a goat f*cker like you would never understand.
     
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    I don't believe in mongol lies:

    Kurdish PKK rebels deny death of 373 of its guerrillas, in response to Turkey's allegation 12.9.2012

    The PKK demanded Turkey's recognition of the Kurds' identity in its constitution and of their language as a native language along with Turkish in the country's Kurdish areas, the party also demanded an end to ethnic discrimination in Turkish laws and constitution against Kurds, ranting them full political freedoms. Photo: HPG September 12, 2012

    QANDIL MOUNTAINS,— The Turkish army announced Monday that 373 Kurdish guerrillas of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) were killed in clashes during the past five months and the PKK rebuffed the statement.

    The CNN Turkish news station quoted a statement issued by the Turkish General Staff as saying that 373 members of the PKK and 88 soldiers were killed in the past five months.

    The PKK denied the news. The party said in a statement published by the pro-PKK Firat ANF news agency, that the clashes over the past five months left behind 1,035 soldiers and 101 PKK fighters dead.

    Violence has increased recently in Turkey's Kurdish region in the southeast.

    PKK is fighting for the autonomy of the Kurdish parts of Turkey and tens of millions of Kurds in the country.

    The PKK has several times proposed peaceful solutions regarding Kurdish problem, Turkey has always refused saying that it will not negotiate with “terrorists”.

    Since it was established in 1984, the PKK has been fighting the Turkish state, which still denies the constitutional existence of Kurds, to establish a Kurdish state in the south east of the country. More than 40,000 people have since been killed.

    But now its aim is the creation an autonomous region and more cultural rights for ethnic Kurds who constitute the greatest minority in Turkey, numbering more than 20 million. A large Turkey's Kurdish community openly sympathise with the Kurdish PKK rebels.

    The PKK wants constitutional recognition for the Kurds, regional self-governance and Kurdish-language education in schools.

    PKK's demands included releasing PKK detainees, lifting the ban on education in Kurdish, paving the way for an autonomous democrat Kurdish system within Turkey, reducing pressure on the detained PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan, stopping military action against the Kurdish party and recomposing the Turkish constitution.

    Turkey refuses to recognize its Kurdish population as a distinct minority. It has allowed some cultural rights such as limited broadcasts in the Kurdish language and private Kurdish language courses with the prodding of the European Union, but Kurdish politicians say the measures fall short of their expectations.
     
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    Are you still dreaming of defeating the kurdish nation? And your lies of killing PKK members is just as pathetic, which reminds me: PKK are not terrorists, you basically admitted it yourself by failing to come up with a reason;)

    Turkey= Terrorists. You occupied our lands, killed half a million of us, tried to erase our kurdish identity and killing and arresting innocent kurds for simply mentioning "rights"
    Your state is living up to every terrorist expectations, much more than the PKK does.
     
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    Published on: Tuesday 23 Aug 2011, 10:08 by Frederike Geerdink

    Published in: daily paper nrc.next, oped-page, August 2011

    Turkey is bombing PKK camps in Northern-Iraq in retaliation for the killing of soldiers by the PKK. The first civilian deaths have been reported. The EU doesn’t protest the violence, because the PKK is on the EU list of terrorist organizations. But the label ‘terrorist’ contributes to maintaining the crux of the problem, which is the still unsolved Kurdish issue. It’s about time we stopped referring to PKK fighters as ‘terrorists’.

    There is no generally accepted, international definition of the term ‘terrorism’. That has everything to do with the eagerness of several political players to use and misuse the term, and their willingness to take advantage of it for their own purposes. The question whether an organization is terrorist or not is thus a purely political one. Also the decision of the EU to put the PKK on the list of terrorist organizations was political. It was taken in 2002, under heavy pressure from both Turkey and the United States. The United States needed Turkey’s friendship in their war on terror after the attacks in New York, and the best way to buy Turkish friendship is to call the PKK terrorists. The EU couldn’t be left behind.

    That’s almost ten years ago now. At the time, there was some hope that governing party AKP, which came to power for the first time in 2002, would work on finding a solution to the long-lasting Kurdish issue. Not only by military means, as before, but by carrying out democratic reforms and thus taking away the breeding ground for ‘terrorism’. The AKP indeed took democratization seriously on several issues, and in 2005 the access negotiations between Turkey and the EU were opened.


    Education in mother tongue

    But the AKP, which has been governing alone since 2002, has not delivered on solving the Kurdish issue through democratic means. In 2009 a ‘Kurdish opening’ was announced, but it never really lead anywhere. Even when the PKK repeatedly respected months of lasting cease-fires and thus gave the government the chance to reform without being accused of ‘bending before terrorists’, nothing happened.

    The Kurdish demands though, are not unreasonable. When the PKK started its violent political activism, in August 1984, an independent country was the goal. Now the organization strives for autonomy in the south-east of the country, which is mainly inhabited by Kurds. Other Kurdish demands: education in their mother tongue, the abolishment of the election threshold of ten percent, the release of Kurdish political prisoners. Most demands are not negotiable for Turkey. They erode the unity of the country, one of the sacred doctrines the nation state is built on.

    Not only did the AKP refrain from doing anything concrete to solve the Kurdish issue, but there was even a tactic added to the arsenal with which the Kurdish people are being suppressed. In the eighties and nineties PKK fighters, Kurdish activists, politicians and intellectuals were killed in their thousands, while nowadays they are being prosecuted en masse. There are for example hundreds of Kurdish mayors and officials on trial for using their right to freedom of expression, referred to by Turkey as ‘making propaganda for a terrorist organization’. Kurdish journalists are still being locked up when they report on the Kurdish issue from a Kurdish perspective, and democratically elected politicians are banned from taking their seats in parliament because of legalistic arguments.


    A sentence that suits a state of law

    By labelling the PKK as ‘terrorist’, its legitimate goals are being branded as irrelevant too. And at the same time the label is used to justify violent and legal reprisals against Kurds. Every bomb on Northern Iraq is self defence against terrorism, every court verdict against a Kurdish politician a sentence that suits a state of law. It stirs up anger and frustration among Kurds – no wonder the number of youths wanting to join the PKK is on the rise, as became known last week. Politically they see no possibilities whatsoever, so they see no other option than to ‘go to the mountains’, as it’s described in Turkey.

    The PKK cease-fire is over. Soldiers die. Young men, often conscript soldiers and mostly inexperienced. Which leads to Erdogan’s decision to start air strikes on PKK camps in Northern Iraq, because, as he said, ‘our patience has come to an end.’ It can hardly get more cynical than that. The international recognition of the PKK as a terrorist organization has a disastrous effect on any chance for peace. It maintains a circle of oppression and violence. Time for a new political signal: strike the PKK off the list of terrorist

    Source: http://www.journalistinturkey.com/stories/politics/stop-labelling-pkk-fighters-as-terrorists_2350/
     

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