In 2003, Justice Scalia Saw Gay Marriage Coming

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In 2003, Justice Scalia Saw Gay Marriage Coming



In a landmark 2003 decision, the Court ruled that states may not outlaw sodomy among consenting adults of the same sex. The minority dissent in the 6-3 ruling in Lawrence v. Texas was authored by Justice Scalia, who argued that the Court’s reasoning effectively, if not explicitly, knocked down the legal basis for outlawing gay marriage.

“Today’s opinion dismantles the structure of constitutional law that has permitted a distinction to be made between heterosexual and homosexual unions, insofar as formal recognition in marriage is concerned,” Scalia wrote.

Justice Anthony Kennedy’s majority opinion said the Court’s ruling against anti-sodomy laws “does not involve whether the government must give formal recognition to any relationship that homosexual persons seek to enter.”


Olson and Boies have know this all along.

That's why they've been so confident.
 
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Granny says, "Dat's right Rev., you tell `em...
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SF Archbishop: Legalizing Gay Marriage is Like ‘Legalizing Male Breastfeeding’
January 29, 2013 – Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, who leads the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco, said that same-sex “marriage” is so contrary to nature that legalizing it would be like “legalizing male breastfeeding.”
In a Jan. 28 interview with Mary O’Regan for the Catholic Herald in England, Archbishop Cordileone cautioned against using the term “gay marriage” because it is a natural impossibility, and to keep using those words only perpetuates a charade. He likened the impossibility of same-sex marriage to another biological impossibility: “Legislating for the right for people of the same sex to marry is like legalizing male breastfeeding.”

He also said, “Truth is clear. Wanting children to be connected to a mother and father discriminates against no one. Every child has a father and a mother, and either you support the only institution that connects a child with their father and mother or you don’t.” “Adoption, by a mother and father, mirrors the natural union of a mother and father and provides a balanced, happy alternative for when a child may not be reared by their biological parents,” said the archbishop. Archbishop Cordileone is chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage. He was installed as the archbishop of San Francisco in October 2012.

In defending marriage between a man and a woman as a natural and social institution vital to the healthy rearing of children, Archbishop Cordileone also said in the interview, “Fighting for marriage is our way of loving God, and the struggle is the particular gift that God has given our generation. This is our particular trial, and by overcoming it we may achieve spiritual greatness." "It will entail suffering if we are to oppose gay marriage, something which poses such destruction to the understanding of natural marriage, which is a child-oriented institution," he said. The archdiocese of San Francisco, officially established in 1853, includes about 1.7 million Catholics.

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New Pope says no to gay marriages...
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Pope Francis on Same-Sex Marriage: 'A Move of the Father of Lies;' 'A Total Rejection of God's Law'
March 13, 2013 - In 2010, when his native Argentina was considering a proposal to legalize same-sex marriage, Pope Francis I, then archbishop of Buenos Aires, said that the legislation was a total rejection of God's law and an effort by the father of lies to confuse and deceive humanity.
Then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio made these observations in a letter to a group of monasteries in Argentina, in which he asked the sisters for their prayers in defeating the same-sex marriage legislation. A conclave of Roman Catholic cardinals elected Cardinal Bergoglio the new pope on Wednesday, and he took the papal name of Francis. “In the coming weeks, the Argentine people will face a situation whose outcome can seriously harm the family," then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio wrote, according to a July 8, 2010 article in the National Catholic Register. "At stake is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother and children," said Cardinal Bergoglio. "At stake are the lives of many children who will be discriminated against in advance, and deprived of their human development given by a father and a mother and willed by God. At stake is the total rejection of God’s law engraved in our hearts.”

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“Let us not be naive: This is not simply a political struggle, but it is an attempt to destroy God’s plan," said the future pope. "It is not just a bill (a mere instrument) but a ‘move’ of the father of lies who seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.” “[T]oday the country, in this particular situation, needs the special assistance of the Holy Spirit to bring the light of truth on to the darkness of error, it needs this advocate to defend us from being enchanted by many fallacies that are tried at all costs to justify this bill and to confuse and deceive the people of good will," the cardinal said.

“I invoke the Lord to send his Spirit on senators who will be voting, that they do not act in error or out of expediency, but according to what the natural law and the law of God shows them,” said Cardinal Bergoglio. “We look to Saint Joseph, Mary and the Child Jesus and ask that they fervently defend the family in Argentina at this particular time,” said the future pope. “We remember what God said to his people in a moment of great anguish: ‘This war is not yours, but God’s’: defend us, then, in this war of God.” The Argentinian Congress approved the same-sex marriage legislation and Argentinian President Cristina Kirchner signed it into law on July 21, 2010.

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Hippity-hoppity, flippity-floppity...
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GOP’s Rob Portman now supports gay marriage, has homosexual son
Friday, March 15, 2013 - Sen. Rob Portman, a longtime opponent of gay marriage, has changed his views on the issue after his son came out to him and his wife two years ago.
“My son came to Jane, my wife, and I, told us he was gay, and that it was not a choice, and that’s just part of who he is, and he’d been that way ever since he could remember,” Mr. Portman, whose focus in Congress has mainly been economic issues, told CNN. “And that launched an interesting process for me, which was rethinking my position, talking to my pastor and religious leaders and going through a process of, at the end, changing my position on the issue. I now believe that people ought to have the right to get married.” “It hasn’t, of course, changed our view at all of him,” Mr. Portman said, adding that his reaction was “love, support — 110 percent.”

The Ohio Republican, who was on the short list to be 2012 GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s running mate, said he did tell Mr. Romney during the vetting process that his son Will, 21, was gay. As a candidate, Mr. Romney supported a federal amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman, but Mr. Portman said he was told it was not a factor in Mr. Romney’s decision on his running mate, which was ultimately Rep. Paul Ryan, Wisconsin Republican.

As for the timing of Mr. Portman’s announcement, since his son told him two years ago, he said he only recently became comfortable with his own decision to change his views, and that he realized he would likely be asked about the issue with cases pending before the U.S. Supreme Court and wanted to let people know where he stood.

Read more: GOP's Rob Portman now supports gay marriage, has homosexual son - Washington Times

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Santorum: ‘We Have to Fight for the Principles That Made This Country Great’
March 15, 2013 – Former senator and Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum gave a poignant and philosophical address to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Friday, choking back tears as he related the recent suffering of his late nephew to the decline of traditional American values, and stressing that conservatives must “fight for the principles that made this country great.”
“I thought of Buddha’s first Noble Truth: To live is to suffer,” Santorum said, remarking on the recent death of his nephew. “[But] it’s not just doctors who seek to eliminate pain. For a hundred years the Left in government have made it their mission to have a government program to address almost every pain.” Santorum's nephew died Thursday evening, Mar. 14. The circumstances of his death have not yet been disclosed. “As their allies in education deny truth so there is no wrong and nothing to worry about, and their allies in Hollywood and the media promote a culture of titillation and violence that numbs our senses in an attempt to please us -- all of this has resulted in an epidemic of psychological and moral and spiritual pain and suffering,” he said.

Santorum said that Americans are suffering today because the modern, liberal ideology has “robbed us” of “the why of America,” arguing that as medical advancements have evolved to dull pain, so has modern politics evolved to dull the reasons for the country’s founding. “The suffering is greater today [than 100 years ago] because our culture and our political leadership have robbed them of the ‘why’ of America, of the purpose,” he said. “They have transformed the American dream that gave us purpose and hope and made suffering much less bearable.”

Santorum’s address focused on the fundamental reasons behind politics, arguing that conservatives must not lose sight of why they engage in politics or risk losing the “soul” of the movement. “What does it profit a movement to gain the country, if it loses its own soul?” Santorum asked. Santorum said that less fortunate Americans would always be tempted by offers of social programs and federal aid, not because they want money but because they want the help and compassion that aid represents. “They don’t want federal money, they want your money,” he said, “not because they want your cash but because they want what comes and they need what comes with it: your caring, your mentorship, your love. All things government cannot give.”

Santorum made a call to return to a politics centered on traditional morality, saying that America was a “moral enterprise” and that conservatives should remember to fight for the moral and cultural values of traditional America. “America, in essence, is a moral enterprise,” he said. “We are the answer, because in part we are the problem,” Santorum continued. “We who have so much have to rededicate ourselves in our churches, in our families, in our communities, in our school boards, in or local non-profit organizations, and in every aspect of our lives.” “We have to fight for the principles that made this country great,” he said. “We have to fight for those who are suffering and being left behind.”

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This is why our Founders did not want Popes to run the country like they used to in Europe.
 
Granny says, "Dat's right Rev., you tell `em...
:cool:
SF Archbishop: Legalizing Gay Marriage is Like ‘Legalizing Male Breastfeeding’
January 29, 2013 – Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, who leads the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco, said that same-sex “marriage” is so contrary to nature that legalizing it would be like “legalizing male breastfeeding.”

contrary to nature... lol...

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This is why our Founders did not want Popes to run the country like they used to in Europe.

I didn't know they were in favor of gay marriage.

Do you think that wanted us to stay static? Gee, I guess we really fucked up abolishing slavery and giving women the vote! And now giving gays equality under the law...
 
Granny says, "Dat's right Rev., you tell `em...
:cool:
SF Archbishop: Legalizing Gay Marriage is Like ‘Legalizing Male Breastfeeding’
January 29, 2013 – Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, who leads the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco, said that same-sex “marriage” is so contrary to nature that legalizing it would be like “legalizing male breastfeeding.”
In a Jan. 28 interview with Mary O’Regan for the Catholic Herald in England, Archbishop Cordileone cautioned against using the term “gay marriage” because it is a natural impossibility, and to keep using those words only perpetuates a charade. He likened the impossibility of same-sex marriage to another biological impossibility: “Legislating for the right for people of the same sex to marry is like legalizing male breastfeeding.”

He also said, “Truth is clear. Wanting children to be connected to a mother and father discriminates against no one. Every child has a father and a mother, and either you support the only institution that connects a child with their father and mother or you don’t.” “Adoption, by a mother and father, mirrors the natural union of a mother and father and provides a balanced, happy alternative for when a child may not be reared by their biological parents,” said the archbishop. Archbishop Cordileone is chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage. He was installed as the archbishop of San Francisco in October 2012.

In defending marriage between a man and a woman as a natural and social institution vital to the healthy rearing of children, Archbishop Cordileone also said in the interview, “Fighting for marriage is our way of loving God, and the struggle is the particular gift that God has given our generation. This is our particular trial, and by overcoming it we may achieve spiritual greatness." "It will entail suffering if we are to oppose gay marriage, something which poses such destruction to the understanding of natural marriage, which is a child-oriented institution," he said. The archdiocese of San Francisco, officially established in 1853, includes about 1.7 million Catholics.

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Snag here is this is subjective religious dogma, absent objective, documented evidence.

In Perry, the Proposition 8 case, opponents of marriage equality failed to provide any evidence whatsoever that children raised by same-sex parents suffer any adverse effects.
 
Justice Kennedy also wrote the majority opinion in Romer, affirming as un-Constitutional an amendment to the Colorado constitution forbidding homosexuals access to that state’s anti-discrimination laws.

Kennedy has been consistent in applying accepted and settled 14th Amendment jurisprudence, where all citizens must be allowed access to state laws, including marriage law. Laws that prohibit same-sex couples access marriage law are un-Constitutional because they classify “homosexuals not to further a proper legislative end but to make them unequal to everyone else…A State cannot so deem a class of persons a stranger to its laws.”

This is why our Founders did not want Popes to run the country like they used to in Europe.

I didn't know they were in favor of gay marriage.

Likely because there is no such thing as ‘gay marriage.’

Marriage is marriage, it’s contract law as written by the states, and citizens must be allowed access to that law, regardless their sexual orientation.

And the Framers were indeed in favor of equal protection of the law.
 

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