Immunity Deals Offered to Blackwater Guards

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  1. Gunny
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    "Confess to what we tell you to so we can get the goods on your higher-ups, and we'll let you go free ...."
     
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    I don't know what US law is on inducements but in my jurisdiction that would mean the end of the prosecution attempt, never to be seen again.
     
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    I do not know if the state department has the authority to offer immunity from prosecution.
     
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    If the US had any balls, and prosecuted the head honcho of Blackwater, they'd throw away the key. Good riddence to bad medicine.


    However, they haven't, so they won't.

    The guy is the scum of the Earth. A piece of shit...
     
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    They did not, BUT ( Jillain can correct me if I am wrong) if they made statements believing they had immunity at the very least those statements have to be thrown out, it sounds like since they offered it the problem is what to do now. If they take it back, no statements and they can not even allude to them.

    My question is, what were the statements, how could the big brass at the company be in trouble for the detachment firing on what they claim they preceived as a threat.

    From what I can tell the initial fire was directed at a vehicle that did not stop and they felt was a threat and it escalated from there, some claiming the Iraqi army unit near by started firing and causing the guards to think they were under attack.

    As for Gumps claim of scum... back it up, provide us with a link or a quote to substantiate the claim. The State Department hires these guys, I doubt they would hire a shady operator. More importantly in all the years they have guarded the officials NO official has died or been captured.
     
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    His whole attitude during the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing reeked of Holier than Thou, arrogant, above-the-law rhetoric. I don;t give a shit if no official has died or been captured. I rate the lives of the 17 Iraqis who were killed by his minions on the same level as the officials. You?

    BTW, as an aside, if you have made a typo re my avatar, cool. If not, from now on you are referred to as retiredrunnyfaggot. Cool?
     
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    Feel free ( since you are on this board) to call me anything you please. As for your name I have just now noticed the R, I will in future try to remember it, but for some reason ( no slight intended) Gump comes in my mind.

    And no I did not think of Forrest till just now ).
     
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    I think the police are allowed to lie and say anything they want to obtain a confession. My guess is the state department could do even more in that regard since they aren't a law enforcement agency. The guy wasn't under "custodial interrogation" so no Miranda rights kick in. And to assert a fifth amendment privilege, the guy would have had to assert it. I'd think they're SOL.
     
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    Erik Prince and Bush go way back. They're cronies of the highest order.

    I don't need to provide a link for that, there's several available if anyone wants to go take 2 seconds of their time.

    Just another example of the cronyism in this administration.
     
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    Prince was a white house intern under daddy bush. his family started the FRC with Gary Bauer, the psycho rabid christian.

    I'd say that qualifies as croneyism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince
     

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