Immigration in Texas

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    I witness every day the illegals from Mexico being picked up on the corner of the Catholic church to do some common labor, and I just shake my head at how our border patrol and our Texas and national government have let us down by allowing this massive invasion by illegal aliens from Mexico who pay no taxes. They just take money from here and send it to Mexico. They are leeches. They have absolutely no interest in the economy or the welfare of the American public. Something has to be done about this runaway problem. What is the solution?
     
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    the democwats need them. hush!
     
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    Illegal immigration will continue to exist as long as particularly inequitable international wage differentials do, and that will exist if the U.S. seeks either an autarkic trade order or excessive trade liberalization, the latter currently being the root of the problem. Only the alleviation of those wage differentials through the implementation of fair trade would be an effective solution.
     
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    The poster quoted below already gave the definitive answer to your question, soaring.
     
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    Originally posted by José
    The US government knows exactly what to do to reduce the flow of illegal immigrants to a trickle but this knowledge is useless since it doesn't have the POLITICAL WILL to implement anything.

    And why doesn't the US government have the political will to enforce the US immigration laws?

    Because it is not sufficiently pressured by the american people.

    Because the members of the US Message Board are far more interested in "fighting" illegal immigration on the Internet than in front of the White House.
     
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    The solution is to make the risk of getting caught entering our country illegally higher than the potential rewards...... use your imagination. ;)
     
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    why dont you go stand in front of the White House dipshit.....and come back here and tell us how that went.....dont forget to wave to the guards....
     
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    Yes, either all that or perhaps, immigrate legally. Seems so simple, so elegant. Looking for reasons to rationalize irrationality, that is Agnost. He doesn't actually need to deal with the issue, no sir-eee bob. Instead, he uses science and empiricism to validate his preconceptions. That isn't how the scientific method works, boyo. Besides, who the hell knows what "autarkic "means, anyway. I bet all those illegals don't care about the Readers Digest word of the day or local ordinances governing livestock within the city limits, or health or housing codes, for that matter. I bet Ol'Agnost has a dictionary up yinyang to detail all that crap, too. Perhaps, all those illegal aliens should do is just actually...immigrate legally? Wouldn't that be a little less complicated, a lot more simple and a hell of a lot more honest? But we can't have THAT can we?
     
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    See what I mean, Soaring?

    The american immigration issue will never be solved because Harry, STAND4LIBERTY, SW2SILVERQUASI, and the rest of the american people, are absolutely determined to fight illegal immigration to the last online message.

    tsk, tsk, tsk...
     
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    The future of the Republican Party exists in the Hispanic vote - for these exact reasons, for the same reasons that you; Jose, seem to ignore. Only illegals enjoy being on the outside looking in, most Estalished Hispanics want to be accepted by the successful middle and - especially - upper class. They know how it is to be poor, and they don't care if Al Gore, the enviroment, or white guilt gets in their way: they want to make money, and keep it to while being a accepted part of America.

    It is time for the common Americans with Mexican heritage; who wake up each morning and go to work without much fuss, without much political activism to be incorporated as their own sub-group. They are only considered part of the immigrant vote because they are pigeonholed by the Republican Party as "illegals" and courted - incorrectly - by the Democrats. I live in Southern California, Riverside County (50%+ are Hispanic, though the numbers, like most, are a little skewed because they consider you Hispanic even if only one of your grandparents was one half Hispanic, and/or you can identify yourself whatever you like so most do - it's complicated) and after long discussions with quite a few Mexican-Americans there's deeper currents at work then most believe.

    There's two distinct classes of Mexican-Americans and one of which are already half-Republican. They are the workers, more than merely "legal" these are the people who have forgotten even the loosest form of Spanish - they go to work, vote Democrat for the same reason all immigrants vote Democrat: machine politics. Yet, like all immigrant groups before them - even more so, some would say - they will slowly become disillusioned by the Democrat Party for the same reason they fell in love. The Democrat Party is an party that courts individual votes, they scratch backs, trim toenails, and squabble for the right to be called the 'Defender of' just about everything.

    Republicans, on the other hand, just don't care. They have their issues, get behind them or not. More importantly, these issues that Republicans are so adamant on: private property, abortion, lower taxes and less government mimic the 'established Hispanic' vote so much it's vaguely disturbing.

    They dislike the new immigrants, and the feeling is mutual, because they look down upon them for 'going white' while the opposite feeling is the others are, basically, hayseeds fresh over the coyote's cart. Thus border security isn't such a "No" issues as it is for the people who have significant relations actually within Mexico.

    The Established Hispanics also love their property, and love their money. They don't have the white guilt that the Democrat Party preys on, and think that much of the social ills are merely nonsense white people do to make white people feel important. You know, working at the bank all day, you got to go out on the weekends - protest a bit, which is all good but 'real working class' needs to hurry up to work 'n get the kids through college.

    Abortion, gay marriage; once again the Catholic heavy Hispanic vote is on the Republican side.
     
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