CDZ Immigration and Gun Debate Similarity?

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    I have recently noticed a similarity in the debates over these issues: Whereas opponents of illegal immigration enforcement always conflate the issue to include all immigrants, so do opponents of of any restrictions on gun ownership conflate the issue to include all firearms.

    Isn't it time to set aside these straw men and discuss these issues in a rational manner?
     
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    Good luck with that...
     
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    I'm okay with banning assault immigrants
     
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    Apples and oranges. You have a constitutional right to own a firearm. There is no constitutional right to illegally cross the US border.
     
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    Could that be because gun nuts say all guns are the same?
     
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    Could that be because wing nuts say all immigrants are the same?
     
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    Does the Second Amendment have any specificity in regard to one type of firearm or another?

    No. The Second Amendment did not differentiate between a single-shot black powder musket, or a Revolutionary War era cannon capable of hurling an explosive 20 pound ball downrange.
     
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    You are sadly misinformed. No conservative or Republican I know of wants "all" immigrants deported. Only the illegal ones
     
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    Is that the current interpretation?
     
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    I was referring to left wing nuts.
     

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