Immigrants fighting hard to stay in U.S.

[Againsheila]

Baby conceived over a year ago when he still had a job and a trailer.

While he was living in this country ILLEGALLY... anyone that brings a child into a crime is an unfit parent...remove the baby and give him/her up to a good AMERICAN home.

I'm not even going to dignify that foul suggestion with a response.

So you think a man that robs a bank and brings his child along with him shouldn't face more severe punishment than a man that robs a bank and leaves his kid at home?

 

[Againsheila]

Every time one of these illegal aliens are identified by the press should make it easier for the authorities to round them up and escort them to the boarder. Does that happen? No... Seems like the illegal alien problem is also caused by us by not getting them back out of the country when we spot them. We can't have it both ways. I say when we identify them ship them out immediately.

Are you kidding, I watched an interview live with an admitted illegal where he said "we vote" and the interviewer didn't call him on it or anything? The cops didn't do anything. Our government is no longer representing America and Americans.

 

[LaLinda75]

But of course they vote! Americans are so damn naive it's no wonder we find ourselves in such a damn mess!

 

[tigerbob]

While he was living in this country ILLEGALLY... anyone that brings a child into a crime is an unfit parent...remove the baby and give him/her up to a good AMERICAN home.

I'm not even going to dignify that foul suggestion with a response.

So you think a man that robs a bank and brings his child along with him shouldn't face more severe punishment than a man that robs a bank and leaves his kid at home?

 

[Terral]

Hi Black:

Every time one of these illegal aliens are identified by the press should make it easier for the authorities to round them up and escort them to the boarder. Does that happen? No... Seems like the illegal alien problem is also caused by us by not getting them back out of the country when we spot them. We can't have it both ways. I say when we identify them ship them out immediately.

Nobody needs to escort any Illegal Aliens anywhere, if nobody is willing to 'hire' them. You cannot expect the Illegal Aliens to find their own way back home, when all levels of the Federal, State and Local Govt's are looking the other way 'and' talking about handing out Illegal Amnesty to everyone. Putting more Border Patrol people on the border is absolute stupidity, when they can see hundreds of Illegal Aliens working for unscrupulous U.S. Employers right behind them; as if only the Illegal Aliens trying to come here illegally 'today' are to be apprehended. The fact is that all levels of U.S. Govt are corrupt to the core and servants of the Open Border Lobby and Fascist Elites building up their 20-Million-Man Illegal Alien Labor Pool for the 'displacement' of as many U.S. Workers as humanly possible.

We The Stupid Sheeple are stupid enough to allow millions and millions and millions of Illegal Aliens to continue running to and fro from sea to shining sea, so utter destruction (Reason #11) from the Illegal Alien Invasion . . .

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Ar0TRvQYY]. . . Illegal Alien Invasion . . .[/ame]

. . . is exactly what the Sheeple deserve.

Welcome to the Fascist State of CanAmeriMexico . . .

GL,

Terral

 

[SW2SILVER]

If I was a Mexican illegal alien that sweated blood and snuck around pretending nobody noticed... Lets say I suffered under that same delution, and believed that a pot of gold , or the golden ring or some positive bling lay over that border, hell yeah, I'd beg borrow and steal too. Then I would ask you, in my smarmy- assed way, Do you think that is all immigration is? I want a Ferrari really bad, I can steal it and then declare I earned it? Citizenship isn't much different than a fancy Italian car, except in the details. Theft, immigrating illegally, what is the difference ethically? What's next. Legalizing rape?

 

[Modbert]

I love this part:

"The idea was to return with assets," said Chagoya, alluding to the dream some immigrants harbor of making it big here and returning to Mexico with a pocketful of money. "But they're leaving defeated, sad."

<<<

These people don't want to become Americans, they want to strip our resources and ship them back home and then go back and live like kings on OUR MONEY.

That's nothing new. Illegal and Legal Immigrants from all over the world come to America for that simple reason. They want to make money, etc and live like Kings (because of the dollar to their country's currency conversion) for the rest of their lives. You can't crucify them for that though, tell me you honestly wouldn't do the same in their shoes?

 

[Modbert]

while he was living in this country illegally... Anyone that brings a child into a crime is an unfit parent...remove the baby and give him/her up to a good american home.

 

[SW2SILVER]

Illegals want to return with all that hard won booty they stole fair and square, what's wrong with that? Being that nobody seems to notice...It must be OK. We all know, only a racist would object. Yes, that's the popular consensus. It seems that immorality is the NEW morality these days. Noticing illegal aliens? We shan't have that. Totally (insert Negative concepts or word here). Well, the Emperor doesn't have any close on, either, shame on us that notice. We are so totally ashamed, for being reasonable and rational and all that. Shame on US.

 

[Modbert]

Illegals want to return with all that hard won booty they stole fair and square, what's wrong with that? Being that nobody seems to notice...It must be OK. We all know, only a racist would object. Yes, that's the popular consensus. It seems that immorality is the NEW morality these days. Noticing illegal aliens? We shan't have that. Totally (insert Negative concepts or word here). Well, the Emperor doesn't have any close on, either, shame on us that notice. We are so totally ashamed, for being reasonable and rational and all that. Shame on US.

I think you seem to be missing that the point that those illegals still come here and work. They just don't lounge around all day surfing the web.

Is it right that they came in this country illegally? No
Is it right they give people who came into this country legally a bad name? No
Is it right they make a mockery of the legal system to get into this country? No

I don't think anyone is saying these things are right, and to accuse people of such is dishonest.

Can you blame them however for coming here may it be legally or illegally? No

I'm not sure if any of you have ever been down to Mexico but the conditions there are horrible at best. Their air is so polluted that it takes years off their life, and don't even get started on the water.

Can ANY of you sit there and honestly tell me you wouldn't come here if given the chance to make money for your family when in such a desperate situation? Saying no indicates either you're lying or really don't give a fuck about your family. If it were me in their shoes, and my family was starving or whatever you can bet your ass I'd be doing whatever I can to help them.

 

[Agnapostate]

Illegal immigration is spurred by inequitable international wage differentials exacerbated by trade liberalization policies. Reversal of those policies and the implementation of fair trade is an appropriate means for some degree of minimization of those differentials. I do find it amusing that so many seem to think that legal and illegal immigration are two equally convenient and accessible options, though. Does it seem logical to believe that some would choose to endure desert hikes and meager conditions if legal immigration were a conceivable possibility?

 

[Againsheila]

Illegals want to return with all that hard won booty they stole fair and square, what's wrong with that? Being that nobody seems to notice...It must be OK. We all know, only a racist would object. Yes, that's the popular consensus. It seems that immorality is the NEW morality these days. Noticing illegal aliens? We shan't have that. Totally (insert Negative concepts or word here). Well, the Emperor doesn't have any close on, either, shame on us that notice. We are so totally ashamed, for being reasonable and rational and all that. Shame on US.

I think you seem to be missing that the point that those illegals still come here and work. They just don't lounge around all day surfing the web.

Is it right that they came in this country illegally? No
Is it right they give people who came into this country legally a bad name? No
Is it right they make a mockery of the legal system to get into this country? No

I don't think anyone is saying these things are right, and to accuse people of such is dishonest.

Can you blame them however for coming here may it be legally or illegally? No

I'm not sure if any of you have ever been down to Mexico but the conditions there are horrible at best. Their air is so polluted that it takes years off their life, and don't even get started on the water.

Can ANY of you sit there and honestly tell me you wouldn't come here if given the chance to make money for your family when in such a desperate situation? Saying no indicates either you're lying or really don't give a fuck about your family. If it were me in their shoes, and my family was starving or whatever you can bet your ass I'd be doing whatever I can to help them.

Define "desperate". I've been all over Mexico and I never once saw a starving child.

Elvira, the church person, had a college education in Mexico and a job as a secretary and was able to purchase property and was building herself a house when she decided she could make MORE money in the USA and snuck into our country.

My senora in Mexico complained about losing her maid, because she (the maid of course) could make more money here. These are not "desperate" people, these are people breaking into our country illegally and taking what is ours because they want more than they have in their own country, and we let them get away with it. Imagine if I broke into your home and demanded to live there because your home is nicer than mine....how would you feel then? Bet you'd have the cops there before I could even unpack my bag.

Calling an illegal alien an undocumented worker is like calling a burglar and uninvited houseguest.

 

[manu1959]

Illegal immigration is spurred by inequitable international wage differentials exacerbated by trade liberalization policies. Reversal of those policies and the implementation of fair trade is an appropriate means for some degree of minimization of those differentials. I do find it amusing that so many seem to think that legal and illegal immigration are two equally convenient and accessible options, though. Does it seem logical to believe that some would choose to endure desert hikes and meager conditions if legal immigration were a conceivable possibility?

ah an excuse to rationalize breaking the law......if only everyone was paid the same no matter what they do or how much they do .... the world would be a better place.....

 

[Agnapostate]

ah an excuse to rationalize breaking the law......if only everyone was paid the same no matter what they do or how much they do .... the world would be a better place.....

No, I'm inclined to say otherwise. Believe that economic irrationality if you want to though.

 

[SW2SILVER]

Agnost, yer mad as a hatter. You or they want equability? Yes? OK, so do the rest of us. Immigrating legally is a freaking start. You really don't get what anecdotal evidence is. All those people that protested the Iranian election 2 weeks ago? Twitter? Those cell phone pictures of that girl that died after being shot? That, is what the Internet IS, it's all of us being able to relate what we see and feel about an issue. THAT is ANCHEDOTAL as hell. It's what WE see in real time, not some pre-digested facts that fit into your universe. Get over it.

 

[Agnapostate]

And it's also not statistical analysis of large data sets, which means it could constitute an isolated incident not suitable as a basis for policy formation by itself. It doesn't, of course, but it could. And why the fuck are you allowed to post with two usernames anyway?

 

[LaLinda75]

'Does it seem logical to believe that some would choose to endure desert hikes and meager conditions if legal immigration were a conceivable possibility?'

LOL! My but you are naive! Of course they would! 47% of people in Mexico would give their eye teeth to live in the USA - no matter the reason. Are YOU willing to allow that percent and more to enter our country legally and then followed by illegal entrants? What do you think it would do to this country?? So you want open borders! Go for it lady - you would be one of the first to be crying 'what the hell have we/I done???!!!

 

[Agnapostate]

LOL! My but you are naive! Of course they would! 47% of people in Mexico would give their eye teeth to live in the USA - no matter the reason. Are YOU willing to allow that percent and more to enter our country legally and then followed by illegal entrants? What do you think it would do to this country?? So you want open borders! Go for it lady - you would be one of the first to be crying 'what the hell have we/I done???!!!

Actually, you seem to be the naive one in that you assume that all have equal opportunities to emigrate legally. Anyone actually famliar with the process knows that that's an asinine belief.

 

[Againsheila]

LOL! My but you are naive! Of course they would! 47% of people in Mexico would give their eye teeth to live in the USA - no matter the reason. Are YOU willing to allow that percent and more to enter our country legally and then followed by illegal entrants? What do you think it would do to this country?? So you want open borders! Go for it lady - you would be one of the first to be crying 'what the hell have we/I done???!!!

Actually, you seem to be the naive one in that you assume that all have equal opportunities to emigrate legally. Anyone actually famliar with the process knows that that's an asinine belief.

Exactly. My parents took in two Hungarians that fled Hungary when the communists took over. My father was in the Air Force at the time, stationed in England, where I was born. He tried for more than a year to get our friends into this country and was not able to do so. They lived out their lives in Canada. Now why do you think some illegal who walks across the border should have more rights than our family friends when my father served this country?????

My brother spent $thousands and it took more than a year to get his wife here from Thailand, why do you think those illegals deserve more rights than my brother and his wife?

My sister tried to move here from Canada with her husband and two kids. She was an American citizen and they had more than $40,000 in the bank (trust me, that was a heck of a lot of money 30 years ago) and my parents still had to sponsor them to come here.

My cousin from Germany was sponsored by my Aunt.

My brother tried for years to get his mother in law here from Thailand, just for a visit and was denied, she died without ever being able to see where her grandchildren live.

Why on earth do you think someone that walks across the border deserves more rights than my family and friends????

Why do you think they deserve more rights than the millions of people who legally apply to come here and get turned down, or wait YEARS?????

 

[LaLinda75]

'Actually, you seem to be the naive one in that you assume that all have equal opportunities to emigrate legally. Anyone actually famliar with the process knows that that's an asinine belief.'

So, ms pollyana, do you really believe that this country owes ALL the people on this planet entrance to the USA?? Do you actually believe that this country is here to see that ALL people have equal opporunities in ALL faces of life no matter in which country they reside and when their whim is to come to the 'evil' USA the USA is 'responsible' to give them the opportunity to do so??? Again - LMAO!!!