Imagine there's no heaven

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Freakin song makes me ball my eyes out! It is a great song.

I cry mostly because my Aunt's husband (married for only a year or so) who died in a car accident back in 2006, gave me this CD before he passed, because of this song specifically. I haven't listened to it in a long time.

Long story, but him and I had a rough start (misunderstandings about faith, my aunt and his relationship, too long to get into) and when we did talk about some of those differences, and when we both said we were sorry... he gave me this CD. Makes me cry so much, I wish I had gotten to know him better before he passed.

Thanks for posting.
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Nice story, Marie.

I'm no longer posting personal stories, but I appreciate yours. You might remember why I don't do that anymore.
 
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Not exactly my choice of Spiritual songs. But then I am guessing we probably have a different definition of Spiritual. I am not sure my definition is not fluid though.

One of my favorite Spiritual songs is A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief.

A Poor Wayfaring Man Of Grief

A poor wayfaring Man of grief
Hath often crossed me on my way,
Who sued so humbly for relief
That I could never answer nay.
I had not pow'r to ask his name,
Whereto he went, or whence he came;
Yet there was something in his eye
That won my love; I knew not why.

Once, when my scanty meal was spread,
He entered; not a word he spake,
Just perishing for want of bread.
I game him all; he blessed it, break,
And ate, but gave me part again.
Mine was an angel's portion then,
For while I fed with eager haste,
The crust was manna to my taste.

I spied him where a fountain burst
Clear from the rock; his strength was gone.
The heedless water mocked his thirst;
He heard it, saw it hurrying on.
I ran and raised the suff'rer up;
Thrice from the stream he drained my cup,
Dipped and returned it running o'ver;
I drank and never thirsted more.

'Twas night; the floods were out; it blew
A winter hurricane aloof.
I heard his voice abroad and flew
To bid him welcome to my roof.
I warmed and clothed cheered my guest
And laid him on my couch to rest,
Then made the earth my bed and seemed
In Eden's garden while I dreamed.

Stript, wounded, beaten nigh to death,
I found him by the highway side.
I roused his pulse, brought back his breath,
Revived his spirit, and supplied
Wine, oil, refreshment he was healed.
I had myself a wound concealed,
But from that hour forgot the smart,
And peace bound up my broken heart.

In pris'n I saw him next, condemned
To meet a traitor's doom at morn.
The tide of lying tongues I stemmed,
And honored him 'mid shame and scorn.
My friendship's utmost zeal to try,
He asked if I for him would die.
The flesh was weak; my blood ran chill,
But my free spirit cried, 'I will!'

Then in a moment to my view
The stranger started from disguise.
The tokens in his hands I knew;
The Savior stood before mine eyes.
He spake, and my poor name he named,
'Of me thou hast not been ashamed.
These deeds shall thy memorial be;
Fear not, thou didst them unto me.'
 
it's easy if you try. No hell below us, above us only sky.

John Lennon

One of the most spiritual songs I've ever heard.

Post some song that is one of your favorites.

Hey Sky: I get and agree with the part of the message that
instead of seeking some future heaven beyond this life
you make the most of what is here and now we do have
and can do something about.

The part I don't get is WHY are people teaching that
spiritual peace on earth is "separate" or "opposed" to heaven?
What is wrong with accepting and receiving heaven on earth
in the here and now as one, not opposing concepts?

A Buddhist monk also criticized Christianity for teaching you have to
die physically to get to heaven instead of teaching the Kingdom of God
as peace among us today. I DO believe that receiving Christ means to
receive peace and establish truth and justice on earth in the here and now,
to bring heavenly peace on earth. This is not separate from living and being
peace as the goal in Buddhism either.

Why are we teaching this as separate or at odds with each other???
Isn't that the reason we don't have peace, we keep dividing and criticizing
and rejecting, instead of treating and accepting all ways as one process?

Anyway, I see that division going on, and that is the one thing
I regret about the song, it emphasizes some divisive or exclusive
interpretation of Christianity or heaven that misses the universal message.

I agree with the point of the song, but I believe
that IS what heaven in Christianity is pointing to!

Here are my comments in lyrical form:

Re-imagine

Imagine earth and heaven
Are like your heart and mind
At odds with one another
The story of mankind

Until the world discovers
Forgiveness
heals the pain

You may not believe in prayer
But in Christ our hearts are one
And what we ask to bring together
In truth and love it shall be done

Imagine no divisions
Between religious tribes
Of every race and color
Rejoined in Jesus Christ

Imagine all the branches
Building the Tree of Life

Who can say what's in our future
Until that future finally comes
But every day is painting a picture
Humanity becoming one
Where hearts and minds agree as one
And earth and heaven meet as one
 
it's easy if you try. No hell below us, above us only sky.

John Lennon

One of the most spiritual songs I've ever heard.

Post some song that is one of your favorites.

Hey Sky: I get and agree with the part of the message that
instead of seeking some future heaven beyond this life
you make the most of what is here and now we do have
and can do something about.

The part I don't get is WHY are people teaching that
spiritual peace on earth is "separate" or "opposed" to heaven?
What is wrong with accepting and receiving heaven on earth
in the here and now as one, not opposing concepts?

A Buddhist monk also criticized Christianity for teaching you have to
die physically to get to heaven instead of teaching the Kingdom of God
as peace among us today. I DO believe that receiving Christ means to
receive peace and establish truth and justice on earth in the here and now,
to bring heavenly peace on earth. This is not separate from living and being
peace as the goal in Buddhism either.

Why are we teaching this as separate or at odds with each other???
Isn't that the reason we don't have peace, we keep dividing and criticizing
and rejecting, instead of treating and accepting all ways as one process?

Anyway, I see that division going on, and that is the one thing
I regret about the song, it emphasizes some divisive or exclusive
interpretation of Christianity or heaven that misses the universal message.

I agree with the point of the song, but I believe
that IS what heaven in Christianity is pointing to!

Here are my comments in lyrical form:

Re-imagine

Imagine earth and heaven
Are like your heart and mind
At odds with one another
The story of mankind

Until the world discovers
Forgiveness
heals the pain

You may not believe in prayer
But in Christ our hearts are one
And what we ask to bring together
In truth and love it shall be done

Imagine no divisions
Between religious tribes
Of every race and color
Rejoined in Jesus Christ

Imagine all the branches
Building the Tree of Life

Who can say what's in our future
Until that future finally comes
But every day is painting a picture
Humanity becoming one
Where hearts and minds agree as one
And earth and heaven meet as one
I like your brain.:eusa_angel:
 
If everyone cared and nobody cried
If everyone loved and nobody lied
If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
Then we'd see the day when nobody died

And I'm singing
Amen I, Amen I, I'm alive

And in the air the fireflies
Our only light in paradise
We'll show the world they were wrong
And teach them all to sing along

Singing Amen, I, I'm alive

And as we lie beneath the stars
We realize how small we are
If they could love like you and me
Imagine what the world could be

If everyone cared and nobody cried
If everyone loved and nobody lied
If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
Then we'd see the day when nobody died
When nobody died...
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I admire how this song can take the message of heaven on earth
and use the mainstream music media to make that accessible to people

Without preaching nor denying but speaking that message consistently

I write song lyrics too but they never come out simple:

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It Was Me. by Mount Zion


Their heads were low
Their steps were slow
As they walked along
That long Emeaus Road

Then a Man appeared
And as he drew near
He said why are you so sad
Are things really that bad

They said Sir
Have you not heard
You must be a stranger
in this town

Cause the one who came
In the Father's name
He has has been cut down
They've laid his body
in the ground

As they walked and talked
He began to explain
About this Jesus
Why he came

He opened the scriptures
And began to teach
The Preacher of preachers
He began to preach

In the wilderness
The children there
Had nothing there to eat

The Manna from Heaven
Fell down at their feet
When they were dry and thirsty
In a foriegn land

Living water came forth
out of a rock in the sand

When the three Hebrew children
were thrown in the flame

A forth man appeared
They even called him by name

The Manna, The Water, The Man
They're all the same

If you're still confused
Let me say this real plan

It was me

It was me

I'm the one you left
Back there at calvary

It was me

Who do you think hung the stars in the sky
Who do you think made the day and the night
Who made the flowers
Who made the trees
Who made the sun and the moon and the seas

Who gives life to all who belive
Who do you think made the blind to see
Who made the very air that you breath
Who defeated death and won the victory

It was me

It was me

I'm the one who died for you
At calvary

It was me

Who loved you
when no one else would
Who saved you
when no one else could

It was me


My mother and father in law play this in church in a bluegrass style and boy the shouting that gets started. This song is real powerful.
 
it's easy if you try. No hell below us, above us only sky.

John Lennon

One of the most spiritual songs I've ever heard.

Post some song that is one of your favorites.

But I would have to close my eyes and pretend I am somewhere else---wait, you meant a spiritual heaven. Haven't been there so I would not know what I was missing. Any ideas?
 

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