I'm not sure it matters whether the US was founded on Christianity

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    Nations rise and fall. What's important is that we found our lives on Christianity and the principles Christ taught us. When we fix our own lives, our nation will fix itself.
     
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    The nation was not founded on Christianity. It was founded by men guided by their Christian convictions that unalienable rights come from God and no man or nation should have ability to take away or interfere with those rights. And the Founders knew that this principle embodied in our U.S. Constitution would not survive except in the care and custody of a religious and morally virtuous people.

    Having said that, I do believe that men of faith from the ancients to Jesus and his Disciples and through the ages have always preached various versions of 2 Chronicles 7:14:

    “If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray, and turn from their wicked ways, then I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

    It's a pretty good prescription for revival I think.
     
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    Also, what does it matter if we were founded on Christianity if we as people have turned away from it?

    We need to fix ourselves as a people to fix the nation we love.
     
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    It was founded on good principles, so people will always attach those principles to their religion, just the way it is.

    I'm an atheist, some christians of the time had principles they would label christian and used those in their thinking of framing our gov't, some of the agnostics involved in the process had the same principles which i'm certain they wouldn't call christian. So in my opinion it's not a black and white answer.

    I'm an atheist who likes a lot of Jesus's teachings, especially teaching of peace/loving your enemy/anti-violence. Just seems the more christian you are in the US the more likely you are to be outspokenly pro-war which is the exact opposite of those specific teachings, it's weird to me.
     
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    No arguments here.
     
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    How will Christians and/or Americans feel when China is the world's dominant power?
     
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    I understand that Buddhism is already growing in this country.
     
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    A good idea is a good idea regardless of who thought it up. When we start rejecting good ideas just because we don't share the ideology or religious faith or race or nationality or any other criteria of another person I think we won't make much worthwhile progress. And that is why I say that the nation was not founded on Christianity so much as on a concept of unalienable rights that happened to be developed by mostly or all Christians.

    But certainly that concept was shared by the one or two founders who probably were not Christian. And of course you are right that many "Christian" convictions are not exclusively Christian.

    Would we have the first and only national Constitution in the history of the world that is based on unalienable rights had our Founders not been mostly Christian? I don't know.
     
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    I'm likely going to feel the same way. That we need to repent of our evils and eliminate corruption in our lives and then the Lord will bless us as He has promised.
     
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    I dunno either, good post.
     

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