I'm going out on a limb, but is it possible this nut case in Wis

I'm trying to wrap my brain around punk bands being right wing. And I'm wondering how hard people are working to find a way to link him to the Tea Party.

Cripes. Whatever happened to "he's crazy". And keep freaking politics out of it.

"Right wing" punk bands are usually racist skinhead punk bands...

See Rock Against Communism, for one.

Racism is not right wing.

The long history of racism in this country has always been on the left.

It was the Democrat party that was for slavery.

The Republican party ENDED with it's first president.

The culination of this racism came in the early 20th century with liberal progressives pushing eugenics.

Thomas Sowell has just written a new book detailing the movement.

It was American eugenics that helped inspired German Eugenics (culminating in the Nazis)

That was always your left wing.

But liberal will still rewrite the history to try and cover their own tracks. :eusa_shifty:
Bullshit.
 
(Reuters) - The gunman who killed six worshipers at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin was identified as a 40-year-old U.S. Army veteran and authorities said they were investigating possible links to white supremacist groups and his membership in skinhead rock bands.

The assailant, shot dead by police at the scene on Sunday, was identified as Wade Michael Page. He served as a soldier in the Army from 1992 to 1998, police chief John Edwards said in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek where the 400-member temple is located.

Sikh temple gunman was ex-soldier linked to racist group | Reuters
 
Oh I do understand the skinhead/ punk movement quite well. My ex and I worked with a number of punk bands.

Punk I love. Skinheads I detest. They are scumbuckets. But with so many calling his bands "far right wing" means they don't know jack shit. The madman was a neo Nazi white supremacist.

It is really really disturbing that skinheads are making a comeback. I was just reading that the ADL have actually been tracking him for a long long time.

There are many types of skinheads, many of them are not racist.

Neo-Nazi, or Racist Skinheads are a category to themselves.

And while I'm not in any sense trying to brand all "right wingers" as Neo-Nazis, there's no question that the ideology of the white power movement would be categorized as "far right wing".

I'm thinking "National Front" in Britain as the classic media hyped segment of skinheads. And NF are far right.

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
 
Thought those in the Sikh Temple were Muslims because of the Turbans????????

I'm just trying to make of sense of WHY you go into temple of mantra chanting meditating HARMLESS Sikhs and shoot them up!

It makes no sense.

I wish i could stick around, to hear the answers, but I have to book.

Read 'em later.

It would make more sense if he went into a Mosque and shot up some Muslims who weren't bothering anyone?
 
Thought those in the Sikh Temple were Muslims because of the Turbans????????

I'm just trying to make of sense of WHY you go into temple of mantra chanting meditating HARMLESS Sikhs and shoot them up!

It makes no sense.

I wish i could stick around, to hear the answers, but I have to book.

Read 'em later.

It wouldn't surprise me if that were the case. Either way, he is fucking nuts, and its a good thing he is dead.
 
Thought those in the Sikh Temple were Muslims because of the Turbans????????

I'm just trying to make of sense of WHY you go into temple of mantra chanting meditating HARMLESS Sikhs and shoot them up!

It makes no sense.

I wish i could stick around, to hear the answers, but I have to book.

Read 'em later.

Not a limb at all. Go back to 9/11 attacks and many of them were against Indians. Sadly, rw's are just find with the Muslim who runs fux but they think everyone who covers their head is a Muslim.

They also think that all Muslims (cept for the one who controls fux) is a terrorist.

Ya just can't fix stupid.

There's also been an upsurge in hate groups in general although, one source I read said that racist hate groups are also getting more and more violent. Where racists used to hide their hate, they're much more out in the open now.

Like this board.

Used to be, ractists would keep their stupidity and hate to themselves. Now there are plenty of places, like this board, that welcome racists and actually offer them safe harbor.

You're living proof of that. Please enlighten the class on your idiotic claim that a Muslim "runs fux."
 
We have a crazy control problem in this country. Everything else is an excuse so we don't have to really think about violating the civil rights of people who have done nothing wrong.
 
Thought those in the Sikh Temple were Muslims because of the Turbans????????

I'm just trying to make of sense of WHY you go into temple of mantra chanting meditating HARMLESS Sikhs and shoot them up!

It makes no sense.

I wish i could stick around, to hear the answers, but I have to book.

Read 'em later.

I think some bigots do not know the difference between Sikhs and Muslims based on their appearance alone. It was reported this Sikh temple had been harassed since 9/11.

As for Wade Page, he probably knew they were Sikhs.

Based on my experience, and going by the photos of Page standing in front of various flags being circulated, I would say an accurate label for Page is White Nationalist.

Journalists are not well-informed on the WN movement and tend to label people like him as "white supremacists" or "neo-nazis" or "skinheads". Then they default to the SPLC.

But White Nationalist is more accurate.

When it comes to WNs, anyone who is not white is viewed with enmity. Not just blacks and Jews, but all "mud people".

Asians are semi-respected since they score well on IQ tests. WNs bank a lot on IQ tests and like to point out that blacks score poorly on them. This is evidence blacks are an inferior race.

WNs do NOT like it pointed out that Jews score the highest on IQ tests. In fact, many of them are completely unaware of this fact.

Confirmation bias, see. WNs are big on confirmation bias. Every media report about someone of color doing something bad is hashed and re-hashed amongst themselves to reinforce their belief system.

White Nationalists believe the races should all be separated into their own nations, with the white nations getting North America and Europe, of course.

The mud people in America should be...ahem..."encouraged" to leave America. Some WNs believe the darkies should be bribed with cash in exchange for their meager holdings. Other WNs believe they should be forced to leave at the point of a gun. Still others believe in outright extermination, but this cannot be openly advocated on their forums as they are highly paranoid the government will shut them down.

You can be sure any open praise of Wade Page was quickly suppressed by the Admins of their internet forums.

WNs believe that once all the races are separated, it would just be a matter of time before all the other races collapsed under their own ineptitude and the world would become one big happy white race, with maybe some yellow people in Asia with whom they could engage in trade.

WNs thought the election of Obama would finally wake up white people in America to just how inferior blacks are. Obama would screw things up so badly that white people would rise up and demand a White Nation.

Other WNs are in low spirits. They believe we are past the tipping point and that the white race is doomed to extinction. The fact that white people have not risen up and joined them in a lockstep march to Valhalla just reinforces this depression.

Any white person who opposes White Nationalism is a "cultural marxist". Any person of any color or creed who opposes WNs is an "anti".

White Nationalism is a blend of the old school KKK and the Nazis. They have joined forces due to their individual weakened states.

They idolize Hitler, of course, but will vigorously deny they are Nazis. The prefer to be called WNs. They deny they are racists, and insist on being called racialists.

Many WNs subscribe to the nationalist socialist philosophy of a strong central government. No surprise there. Fools like Glenn Beck twist this into making nazis out to be left-wing. This is an effort to poison the well on his part. That way, if he goes on a bender against gays or blacks or whoever, he can't be described as having nazi tendencies since he has painted nazis as liberals, and he isn't a liberal. See how that works? Glenn Beck and his mouthbreathing hordes of admirers throw up a lot of smoke to conceal the racialist elements that plant nazism deep in the right wing end of the spectrum. Beck perpetrates a massive lie of omission that is only fooling the young and ignorant. Any death camp liberator sees right through assholes like Beck, I'm sure.

I think if you gave WNs an IQ test, they would average out around 80. There are some clever ones here and there, but for the most part they are dumb as a bag of hammers. They survive through unity and mind-numbing repetition.

Some of their philosophy does bleed over into mainstream debate, particularly their hatred of multiculturalism.

When you spend enough time around WNs, you learn to smell them from a mile away when you encounter them in mainstream online forums away from their own forums. Their favorites tactics are to ask for two black countries or cities that are successful (they used to ask for just one), mention the low IQ scores of blacks, and drag out crime statistics for blacks.

In the real world, they walk around with their pathetic "88" tattoos and red shoelaces and white power heavy metal band shirts. One of their favorite slogans is "14 Words". They carry a head full of worms, and many own a collection of small arms.
 
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