CDZ I'm calling habeas corpus on the Russian collusion claim. Where is the collusion.

[depotoo]

Anyone thinking he would be willing to risk losing his business empire for the Russians is nuttier than a fruitcake.

 

[Aries]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

"Russia if you're listening, id like your help in committing treason against my country" - Donald j Trump

 

[Aries]

Anyone thinking he would be willing to risk losing his business empire for the Russians is nuttier than a fruitcake.

What risk? Billionaires don't go to jail, and the ruling party no longer minds treason, obviously.
He's been drooling over business in russia since the 90s. He also has taken out millions in loans from the Russians because American banks refused him.
Even without gaining business in russia the millions in loans is enough for conflict of interest.

 

[xyz]

"Russia if you're listening, id like your help in committing treason against my country" - Donald j Trump

Well, that sure is probable cause for an investigation, and to get warrants.

Also, "impeachment" does not mean someone is automatically guilty, it is an accusation, if there are serious reasons to suspect someone is guilty.

 

[Aries]

"Russia if you're listening, id like your help in committing treason against my country" - Donald j Trump

Well, that sure is probable cause for an investigation, and to get warrants.

Donnie and his loud mouth have always been his own worst enemy.

 

[Care4all]

This is why Comey asked for more funding -- so he could keep going down that rat hole.

Now Trump has kicked him out of the rat hole.

There will now need to be another top ferret to go down into the rat hole next.

Trump will ask him/her if they will promise him complete loyalty ?!

Do ferrets ever lie ?!

FBI -- ferret bureau of investigation.

How has trump as president collides with the Russians. You're claiming murder, without the presence of any murder victim. What can trump DO as president to help the Russians without us knowing? Where is the back scratching? Where is he lifting sanctions, giving money, tech, support to the Russians? I don't know how many more ways I can ask this question.

he had the Russians in his oval office yesterday...

and maybe we've seen nothing because he's been under the spotlight since the Flynn revelation and firing? He;s been frozen, paralyzed for the time being so he can't make any ''pay backs''?? I dunno?

Thanks for admitting there is no body for the murder you are claiming. There is more evidence of the clintons collusion with foreign entities donating to the Clinton foundation, and then magically being granted a swift meeting with the state department. We know for a fact the donations were made and then meetings shortly after, yet many on the left dismiss this as conspiracy theory...while at the same time accusing trump of collusion, without there being a body to present for the murder. You need to be consistent.

Comey said in the hearing that they were also investigating any possible COORDINATION with the Russians by the Trump campaign.

He did not use the term collusion, though I'm not certain the precise difference...

This simply means there was some indication that there was coordination, NOT THAT THERE DEFINITELY was....they are looking in to it, that's all....

President Trump should stop acting guilty, stop complaining, stop obfuscating, stop tweeting about it, stop firing the people involved, and WELCOME the investigation by FUNDING it and staffing it so that it can get to the end sooner.

 

[Aries]

This is why Comey asked for more funding -- so he could keep going down that rat hole.

Now Trump has kicked him out of the rat hole.

There will now need to be another top ferret to go down into the rat hole next.

Trump will ask him/her if they will promise him complete loyalty ?!

Do ferrets ever lie ?!

FBI -- ferret bureau of investigation.

How has trump as president collides with the Russians. You're claiming murder, without the presence of any murder victim. What can trump DO as president to help the Russians without us knowing? Where is the back scratching? Where is he lifting sanctions, giving money, tech, support to the Russians? I don't know how many more ways I can ask this question.

he had the Russians in his oval office yesterday...

and maybe we've seen nothing because he's been under the spotlight since the Flynn revelation and firing? He;s been frozen, paralyzed for the time being so he can't make any ''pay backs''?? I dunno?

Thanks for admitting there is no body for the murder you are claiming. There is more evidence of the clintons collusion with foreign entities donating to the Clinton foundation, and then magically being granted a swift meeting with the state department. We know for a fact the donations were made and then meetings shortly after, yet many on the left dismiss this as conspiracy theory...while at the same time accusing trump of collusion, without there being a body to present for the murder. You need to be consistent.

Comey said in the hearing that they were also investigating any possible COORDINATION with the Russians by the Trump campaign.

He did not use the term collusion, though I'm not certain the precise difference...

This simply means there was some indication that there was coordination, NOT THAT THERE DEFINITELY was....they are looking in to it, that's all....

President Trump should stop acting guilty, stop complaining, stop obfuscating, stop tweeting about it, stop firing the people involved, and WELCOME the investigation by FUNDING it and staffing it so that it can get to the end sooner.

A guilty person can't do that.
Trump can't do that.

 

[sakinago]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

There is also a lot of classified information which the public does not have access to.

On the other hand, there are many tell-tale signs: why did the Trump campaign deny they had contacts with the Russian officials, and later it was proven that they did? And the same with Trump's investments in Russia.

And there are signs of campaign coordination, Trump bringing up certain points (I am not going into if true or not) after they were written about by Russia Today and InfoWars. While not illegal, and we are not discussing collusion between Russia and InfoWars (although that may be brought up in the investigation), it certainly raises a few eyebrows.

Trump also cannot lift the sanctions right now because it would raise even more eyebrows.

So again there's no collusion. You're claiming murder, without a body. And now your claiming a pre crime that he intends to do it, but can't with because of increased scrutiny.

 

[xyz]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

There is also a lot of classified information which the public does not have access to.

On the other hand, there are many tell-tale signs: why did the Trump campaign deny they had contacts with the Russian officials, and later it was proven that they did? And the same with Trump's investments in Russia.

And there are signs of campaign coordination, Trump bringing up certain points (I am not going into if true or not) after they were written about by Russia Today and InfoWars. While not illegal, and we are not discussing collusion between Russia and InfoWars (although that may be brought up in the investigation), it certainly raises a few eyebrows.

Trump also cannot lift the sanctions right now because it would raise even more eyebrows.

So again there's no collusion. You're claiming murder, without a body. And now your claiming a pre crime that he intends to do it, but can't with because of increased scrutiny.

Are you sure they don't have recordings of Trump and his associates talking about coordinating the campaign with Russia? At least 90% of his higher ranking campaign personnel had ties to Russia, this has already been shown.

 

[rightwinger]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

There is also a lot of classified information which the public does not have access to.

On the other hand, there are many tell-tale signs: why did the Trump campaign deny they had contacts with the Russian officials, and later it was proven that they did? And the same with Trump's investments in Russia.

And there are signs of campaign coordination, Trump bringing up certain points (I am not going into if true or not) after they were written about by Russia Today and InfoWars. While not illegal, and we are not discussing collusion between Russia and InfoWars (although that may be brought up in the investigation), it certainly raises a few eyebrows.

Trump also cannot lift the sanctions right now because it would raise even more eyebrows.

So again there's no collusion. You're claiming murder, without a body. And now your claiming a pre crime that he intends to do it, but can't with because of increased scrutiny.

We have a body
Russia hacked the DNC and released the results
Trump used that information
Trump made references to lifting sanctions, recognizing control of Crimea, defended Putin

We lack a smoking gun connecting them

 

[sakinago]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

There is also a lot of classified information which the public does not have access to.

On the other hand, there are many tell-tale signs: why did the Trump campaign deny they had contacts with the Russian officials, and later it was proven that they did? And the same with Trump's investments in Russia.

And there are signs of campaign coordination, Trump bringing up certain points (I am not going into if true or not) after they were written about by Russia Today and InfoWars. While not illegal, and we are not discussing collusion between Russia and InfoWars (although that may be brought up in the investigation), it certainly raises a few eyebrows.

Trump also cannot lift the sanctions right now because it would raise even more eyebrows.

So again there's no collusion. You're claiming murder, without a body. And now your claiming a pre crime that he intends to do it, but can't with because of increased scrutiny.

We have a body
Russia hacked the DNC and released the results
Trump used that information
Trump made references to lifting sanctions, recognizing control of Crimea, defended Putin

We lack a smoking gun connecting them

That's not a smoking gun. If it was, why didn't we hear the whole world crying collusion, collusion we trump went on national television and told the Russians to release Hillarys emails. Where were these cries of collusion then?

 

[rightwinger]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

There is also a lot of classified information which the public does not have access to.

On the other hand, there are many tell-tale signs: why did the Trump campaign deny they had contacts with the Russian officials, and later it was proven that they did? And the same with Trump's investments in Russia.

And there are signs of campaign coordination, Trump bringing up certain points (I am not going into if true or not) after they were written about by Russia Today and InfoWars. While not illegal, and we are not discussing collusion between Russia and InfoWars (although that may be brought up in the investigation), it certainly raises a few eyebrows.

Trump also cannot lift the sanctions right now because it would raise even more eyebrows.

So again there's no collusion. You're claiming murder, without a body. And now your claiming a pre crime that he intends to do it, but can't with because of increased scrutiny.

We have a body
Russia hacked the DNC and released the results
Trump used that information
Trump made references to lifting sanctions, recognizing control of Crimea, defended Putin

We lack a smoking gun connecting them

That's not a smoking gun. If it was, why didn't we hear the whole world crying collusion, collusion we trump went on national television and told the Russians to release Hillarys emails. Where were these cries of collusion then?

We don't know what the FBI has ...do we?

Typically, you will testify under oath and then the FBI will reveal if they have information that conflicts with your testimony

None of the key players....Manifort, Flynn, Mushner have testified what they met with the Russians about

PLUS.....our friend Putin holds the Trump card. You know he has tapes of what was said

 

[Syriusly]

Where is the collusion? .

Trump sure can't stop talking about it.

The FBI is investigating the Russian attempts to hack our election- as part of that investigation they are investigating whether there was any collusion- or attempted collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

We don't know what the FBI has found- but I am sure you will welcome the time when the FBI declares definitively that there was no collusion.

Right?

 

[sakinago]

Where is the collusion? .

Trump sure can't stop talking about it.

The FBI is investigating the Russian attempts to hack our election- as part of that investigation they are investigating whether there was any collusion- or attempted collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

We don't know what the FBI has found- but I am sure you will welcome the time when the FBI declares definitively that there was no collusion.

Right?

Look at half the threads on here, the left cannot stop talking about it either. What was done foreign policy wise to help the Russians?

 

[Syriusly]

Where is the collusion? .

Trump sure can't stop talking about it.

The FBI is investigating the Russian attempts to hack our election- as part of that investigation they are investigating whether there was any collusion- or attempted collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

We don't know what the FBI has found- but I am sure you will welcome the time when the FBI declares definitively that there was no collusion.

Right?

Look at half the threads on here, the left cannot stop talking about it either. What was done foreign policy wise to help the Russians?

So Trump- the Right and the Left cannot stop talking about the possibility of Russian/Trump campaign collusion.

Perhaps people wouldn't talk about it so much if Trump would stop tweeting about it?

We don't know what the FBI has found- but I am sure you will welcome the time when the FBI declares definitively that there was no collusion.

Right?

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

I became curious about the Russian involvement in the election, and found that I needed to go way back to the beginning which I have. I found that Clinton in her dealing with World affairs is more than likely the reason for Russian involvement. It had to have started during her time in office. She had numerous contacts with Russian Officials. (Here is a problem) Something happened during one of these visits. It may have been the Human Rights agenda she was pushing on Russia, and they don't take that type of threats lightly. However something happened. I still can not find this link. Trump on the other hand I have found several Aids did have contact with the Russians, both socially and in a Official manners. Obama did put sanctions on Russia during this period and Clinton was involved. Trumps advisors may have been offered information on the Email server, but refused the info, and walked away. The Russians may have been attempting to get rid of both parties and throw the election into a tail spin. So I have to look at the facts that they knew Clinton much better than Trump and had more incentive to take out Clinton as a pay back for past transgressions. Nothing else can explain this scandal.

 

[xyz]

And also: if they didn't have any evidence, then maybe they would have given Flynn immunity so that he could testify against Trump and other people in the Trump campaign. But they didn't give him immunity.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

And also: if they didn't have any evidence, then maybe they would have given Flynn immunity so that he could testify against Trump and other people in the Trump campaign. But they didn't give him immunity.

Good point, it might be that they want to string it out longer.

 

[jwoodie]

And also: if they didn't have any evidence, then maybe they would have given Flynn immunity so that he could testify against Trump and other people in the Trump campaign. But they didn't give him immunity.

You only give immunity to people who have actual knowledge of wrongdoing, like Hillary's associates.

 

[DarkFury]

Where is the collusion? There is a difference between a foreign government wanting a certain leader to be elected (either for self interest or noble interest, doesn't matter), and a case of scratching each other's backs, which would constitute collusion. So how has trump scratched the back of the Russians? There are still sanctions on Russia, and going off the word of the trump administration will remain until Russia ends its involvement in the Ukraine. So what has this administration done to scratch the back of Putin, and why the hell have we not heard of it with leaks coming left and right out of this administration, like buckshot to a watering tin?

Now did Russia try to influence this election, yes. Duh. This is a problem, but it is a separate problem from collusion. Did they want trump to win, yes, but to claim collusion, there needs to be some sort of two way benefits going back and forth. Where are they? What has Putin got from trump?

If you were to try to influence the French election so that le Pen wouldn't win, that's wrong on you're part. But if you do so on you're own accord, and le Pen doesn't give back anything to you...how then could someone call that collusion on le pens part?

I don't even like trump, but the left has gone over the cliff, they are turning into Alex jones, where EVERYTHING, every move, statement, policy, or sneeze is now a conspiracy fueled by racism, bigotry, and sexism to throw us back into the puritanical/slavery age. It's time to come back to reality. There are numerous fair criticisms of trump to be made, stick to those. You're playing out the little boy who cried wolf because you're looking for impeachment, and by doing so drowning out your own voice to the people who will listen to reason. But all that reason is NOT being heard through the "#fire comey, unless Trump (the only person who really can fire comey) does so, then comey is a hero, trump is a lex Luther villain." It's ridiculous. Reasonable people see the hypocrisy and are tuning you out, want nothing to do with anything else you say. We're tired of it.

I became curious about the Russian involvement in the election, and found that I needed to go way back to the beginning which I have. I found that Clinton in her dealing with World affairs is more than likely the reason for Russian involvement. It had to have started during her time in office. She had numerous contacts with Russian Officials. (Here is a problem) Something happened during one of these visits. It may have been the Human Rights agenda she was pushing on Russia, and they don't take that type of threats lightly. However something happened. I still can not find this link. Trump on the other hand I have found several Aids did have contact with the Russians, both socially and in a Official manners. Obama did put sanctions on Russia during this period and Clinton was involved. Trumps advisors may have been offered information on the Email server, but refused the info, and walked away. The Russians may have been attempting to get rid of both parties and throw the election into a tail spin. So I have to look at the facts that they knew Clinton much better than Trump and had more incentive to take out Clinton as a pay back for past transgressions. Nothing else can explain this scandal.

I have been posting on a Russian board for about 5 or 6 years now and there is a back channel story that Bill Clinton tried to stick his dick in a Russian official's daughter back when he was President.