Illuminati/New World Order ???

[Big-A-]

How many people think there is some truth to these type conspiracies?

 

[CurveLight]

Question is too vague. There is no doubt people conspire to control other people.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

There is no New World Order. There is however Liberal left wing attempts to bring down the Industrialized Nations.

 

[CurveLight]

There is no New World Order. There is however Liberal left wing attempts to bring down the Industrialized Nations.

So when Wilson, Churchill, and Bush (to name a few) all declared a NWO, what were they talking about?

 

[Toro]

The New World Order is 20 years old, so it isn't new anymore.

 

[MaggieMae]

The New World Order is 20 years old, so it isn't new anymore.

It's way older than that. The conspiracy theories about a "new world order" go back to the 17th Century Freemasons, the "robber barons" (Rothchilds and Morgans) of the 19th Century, establishment of the Fed in the 20's, and extensions of all those conspiracies to include the Bilderberg. All are supposed to be a "club" consisting of only a few hundred members worldwide who tell the rest of the world how things would be. All that and no credible contingent of whistleblowers. Sure.

 

[slackjawed]

Slackjawed Rothschild here, there is no new world order. There is no group of super-powerful wealthy people that impose their will on the world.
That is all, nothing to see here folks, go on about your business. Move along.

 

[Big-A-]

I guess my question more specifically should have been, anyone believe the conspiracy that there are is a group of people only a few hundred large, that are secretly attempting to convert the entire earth to a one world currency and a one world government?

 

[Toro]

Yes, lots of people, some who post here.

 

[Big-A-]

So I guess I should ask more specifically, for those who believe in these type conspiracies, what exactly do you believe, and why?

I'm truly interested.

 

[editec]

How many people think there is some truth to these type conspiracies?

Some truth?

Of course, there's SOME truth to the theory that conspiracies exist

That much is obvious since criminal conspiracies are uncovered all the time.

But as to some overarching conspiracy that is pulling every string and controlling every circumstance?

No, that's a silly notion on it's face.

The nature of humans doesn't allow a conspiracy that large and that long lasting to exist sub rosa.

 

[DiveCon]

How many people think there is some truth to these type conspiracies?

Some truth?

Of course, there's SOME truth to the theory that conspiracies exist

That much is obvious since criminal conspiracies are uncovered all the time.

But as to some overarching conspiracy that is pulling every string and controlling every circumstance?

No, that's a silly notion on it's face.

The nature of humans doesn't allow a conspiracy that large and that long lasting to exist sub rosa.

you only say that because you are one of us



oops

 

[manu1959]

whoever they are they arn't very good at it.....

 

[DiveCon]

whoever they are they arn't very good at it.....

we missed you at the last meeting

 

[slackjawed]

whoever they are they arn't very good at it.....

slackjawed rothschild here.
Open critisism will not be tolerated.
that is all

 

[manu1959]

whoever they are they arn't very good at it.....

slackjawed rothschild here.
Open critisism will not be tolerated.
that is all

son of a mason here..........careful to whom you speak like that....

 

[MaggieMae]

How many people think there is some truth to these type conspiracies?

Some truth?

Of course, there's SOME truth to the theory that conspiracies exist

That much is obvious since criminal conspiracies are uncovered all the time.

But as to some overarching conspiracy that is pulling every string and controlling every circumstance?

No, that's a silly notion on it's face.

The nature of humans doesn't allow a conspiracy that large and that long lasting to exist sub rosa.

Which is also the common sense reason why there was no covert conspiracy by the Bush Administration to carry out the attacks of 911. There would have had to have been many people involved in such an event and literally thousands involved in the coverup. One of them would have come forth with solid proof by now. The BA is only guilty of trying to minimize the abject failure of literally every one of our very expensive defense security mechanisms.

 

[MaggieMae]

whoever they are they arn't very good at it.....

slackjawed rothschild here.
Open critisism will not be tolerated.
that is all

son of a mason here..........careful to whom you speak like that....

Are you on Jesse Ventura's "investigative team" too?

 

[slackjawed]

slackjawed rothschild here.
Open critisism will not be tolerated.
that is all

son of a mason here..........careful to whom you speak like that....

Are you on Jesse Ventura's "investigative team" too?

slackjawed rothschild here.
Jesse Ventura is one of our tools, stop talking about him.
that is all.

 

[Shorebreak]

I guess my question more specifically should have been, anyone believe the conspiracy that there are is a group of people only a few hundred large, that are secretly attempting to convert the entire earth to a one world currency and a one world government?

Sometimes it's easier to determine what to believe by understanding what some of the more "influential folks believe. For example, just 3 days ago former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown stated the following about a "New World Order" (transcript from official UK Iraq Inquiry website is linked below):

"Our position was to support action so that the will of the international community, that Saddam Hussein disclose and dispose of weapons, be reinforced, and at the back of my mind was this sense that, if the international community did not act here, then the international community would find it difficult to gain credibility for acting in other areas, and this new world order that we were trying to create was being put at risk. So I go back to what I say is the wider argument about defying the will of the international community."

So clearly there is a "we" who are trying to create some sort of New World Order that requires the credibility of the international community working together as one - at least in Gordon Browns mind. So either Gordan Brown is one of the leading conspiracy theorists who somehow manged to rise to the top of British power, or there is some kind of collective activity to unite world governments into one acting body. He basically stated that he supported the Iraq war so that if nothing else, by participating he would be setting the stage for future collective actions in pursuit of a world order agenda.

Here's the trancript to his testimony from last Friday. Go to page 64 and start at line 7:
http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/media/45411/100503-brown.pdf