Illegal immigrants

[Toddsterpatriot]

Deport all illegal immigrants!

To what end? You deport the breadwinner and then take on their wife and several American born children as welfarites. Do you think this stuff through?

The wife is free to self deport with her children.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

Just because the morons running the anti-immigrant bandwagon didn't bother to teach you this:

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

* Your political jockeying will not be considered by the United States Supreme Court - which is, BTW, dominated by lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, the most liberal organization on the face of the earth.

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

That's another reason we need to seal the border and send them home.

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

Are you under the impression that none of these families are already on welfare?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

Mexico won't take their citizens and their kids back?

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

Build the wall. Boot the illegals.

 

[Humorme]

Deport all illegal immigrants!

To what end? You deport the breadwinner and then take on their wife and several American born children as welfarites. Do you think this stuff through?

The wife is free to self deport with her children.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

Just because the morons running the anti-immigrant bandwagon didn't bother to teach you this:

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

* Your political jockeying will not be considered by the United States Supreme Court - which is, BTW, dominated by lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, the most liberal organization on the face of the earth.

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

That's another reason we need to seal the border and send them home.

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

Are you under the impression that none of these families are already on welfare?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

Mexico won't take their citizens and their kids back?

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

Build the wall. Boot the illegals.

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

 

[theliq]

Fuck all illegals
Cut of all incentive

YAWN...anyhow,you would never be able to gather in fruit and crops in CALIF., without Illegals...FACT but you would let them rot on the ground,that sounds stupid

But remember,YOUR GREAT LEADER HIMSELF has used ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ON HIS BUILDING PROJECTS YOU FOOL,moreover was taken to Court for UNDER PAYING THEM,TRUMP LOST AND HAD TO RIGHTFULLY PAY UP.......O YE OF LITTLE MIND,HOW YOU BLEAT,BUT DON"T KNOW HOW TO SWEAT....

Who is my great leader, ya big dummy?
And why would someone elses actions have anything to do with my beliefs? Sounds like projection...

Trump,yeah I know it's a Joke......No Projection just the Hypocritical FACTS

 

[theliq]

We are all dreamers , in some way. I dream our government will stop being Quislings and collaborators to Mexican invaders. Hitler used overt force by way of bombs and Stukas and blizkreig to invade overtly, Mexicans use passive aggression and subversion as a form of blitzkrieg to invade, and I see them pretty much the same. And our leaders that capitulate to illegal Mexican invaders, I see as collaborators, the Vichy Government that has sold us out. We don't want these sell outs they usurp their power. We don't want sanctuary cities, we don't want the state to ignore immigration laws. NO!

Ask TRUMP why he EMPLOYED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and who was fined by the Courts for under paying them...methinks you PROTEST TOO MUCH but then I have found most AMERICANS ARE TOTAL HYPOCRITES

Out of 323.1 million people, how many do you know?

Taking you as the example quite a lot,you be careful as you are slowly painting yourself into a corner Next Comes your humiliation

 

[Mindful]

We are all dreamers , in some way. I dream our government will stop being Quislings and collaborators to Mexican invaders. Hitler used overt force by way of bombs and Stukas and blizkreig to invade overtly, Mexicans use passive aggression and subversion as a form of blitzkrieg to invade, and I see them pretty much the same. And our leaders that capitulate to illegal Mexican invaders, I see as collaborators, the Vichy Government that has sold us out. We don't want these sell outs they usurp their power. We don't want sanctuary cities, we don't want the state to ignore immigration laws. NO!

Ask TRUMP why he EMPLOYED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and who was fined by the Courts for under paying them...methinks you PROTEST TOO MUCH but then I have found most AMERICANS ARE TOTAL HYPOCRITES

Out of 323.1 million people, how many do you know?

Taking you as the example quite a lot,you be careful as you are slowly painting yourself into a corner Next Comes your humiliation

Can hardly wait. Bring it on.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Deport all illegal immigrants!

To what end? You deport the breadwinner and then take on their wife and several American born children as welfarites. Do you think this stuff through?

The wife is free to self deport with her children.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

Just because the morons running the anti-immigrant bandwagon didn't bother to teach you this:

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

* Your political jockeying will not be considered by the United States Supreme Court - which is, BTW, dominated by lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, the most liberal organization on the face of the earth.

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

That's another reason we need to seal the border and send them home.

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

Are you under the impression that none of these families are already on welfare?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

Mexico won't take their citizens and their kids back?

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

Build the wall. Boot the illegals.

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

Based on the silliness you've posted, that's not all you've forgotten.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue.

I forced you to carry National ID? When did I do that?

we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

Excellent! Foreigners without papers should get a return ticket home, no welfare or other benefits.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall?

We wouldn't have millions of Mexicans, South Americans and OTMs sneaking into the country on foot.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America.

And we're not obligated to take in children born in Mexico.
Adios dreamers.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

In the early 2000s the civilian militias had taken up where the KKK had started in 1977 (IIRC.) Research David Duke and Border Watch.

Civilian militias were offering their services to those who asked. Then an altercation happened between the group Ranch Rescue and some Salvadorans that were attempting to cross over the border on private land. Acting at the behest of a private property owner, Ranch Rescue stopped the Salvadorans and a fight ensued. The Salvadorans lost.

The matter went to court and there the members of Ranch Rescue ended up in prison and the land-owner lost his family farm to the Salvadorans.

Leiva v. Ranch Rescue

My advice (and that of others at that time) was to appeal the decisions. BOTH sides (property owner and and Ranch Rescue) caved in AND the civilian militias bowed down to Uncle Scam. The judge ruled that members of Ranch Rescue violated the civil rights of the trespassing Salvadorans. So, essentially, the anti-immigrant Minutemen and so forth did not challenge the court that was saying that the rights of undocumented foreigners trumped the Rights of private property owners.

The Ranch Rescue Operation was hilarious, what Humorme fails to mention is that the Ranch Rescue morons did was assault the Salvadorans and pistol whip them. One of the Ranch Rescue members was a felon in possession of a firearm.

An operation at Sutton Ranch in Jim Hogg County, Texas, was termed "Operation Falcon". On March 18, 2003, Fatima Del Socorro Leiva Medina and Edwin Alfredo Mancia Gonzales, illegal immigrants from El Salvador, alleged that they were chased, detained, threatened, robbed and assaulted by Ranch Rescue operatives after being caught trespassing on the property.[3] One operative, Henry Mark Conner, allegedly aimed a rifle at Leiva and Mancia during the incident. He and Casey James Nethercott, another operative, were indicted on charges of aggravated assault and unlawful restraint. Nethercott was additionally indicted on charges of unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon. In 2011 the New York Times reported that Nethercott "has a string of assault and weapons convictions, and was once mentioned in Congressional testimony on abuses by bounty hunters for detaining at gunpoint two Southern California high school students on their way home from a football game."

Subsequent to the attacks, Leiva and Mancia sued the Texas chapter of Ranch Rescue. They were represented by attorneys from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, among others. They sued for damages relating to their physical injuries and emotional distress.

The judge in the case ruled in their favor. Joseph Sutton settled for $100,000, but neither Nethercott nor Ranch Rescue leader Jack Foote defended themselves in court. Nethercott was ordered to pay a default settlement of $850,000.[3] Unable to pay the settlement, Nethercott was ordered to surrender his only asset —a 70-acre (280,000 m2) ranch near the Arizona-Sonora border.[5]

In an action considered by some to be in response to this civil award, Arizona voters passed, in a favorable vote of 74.2% of votes cast, the Arizona Standing in Civil Actions, Proposition 102 (2006), preventing illegal immigrants from collecting punitive damages.[6] This law, however, did not aid Ranch Rescue and, in 2011, Nethercott was quoted as saying, "If something happens with an illegal, and they try to sue you and get visas and amnesty, it won't work anymore. Nobody else will lose their home. That's what's important."

Ranch Rescue - Wikipedia

Today, rather than admit the defeat, they send in full time trolls and disinformation artists to try and harass me so that the truth cannot be told.

You sure seem to leave a lot of "truth" out of your comments. imjusayn

Essentially, your side is losing because they gave the government unlimited powers where, before, private property could have been protected by private interests, leaving the government to deal with real criminals ... like terrorists and drug smugglers.

Maybe Ranch Rescue and the property owner shouldn't have restrained and assaulted the Salvadorans. SHRUG

Weakening private property Rights and claiming foreigners are "stealing" jobs (when the government does NOT own jobs in the private sector) is plain, straight up, National Socialism. They don't have a plan to deal with immigration and they cannot afford to have someone like me break the stalemate with proposals that solve the underlying issue. So, you are surrounded by incompetent dummies that have lost every war on this issue and with each succeeding generation, the demographics change a bit more that a win by a popularity vote goes against you - and it increases on a daily basis.

YAWN

Son, you don't win a war with 37,000 + plus posts on a discussion board. You win the fight by being in it. You do that by petitioning legislators, getting involved in legal challenges, submitting proposed legislation to your elected representatives. You win via physical protest and getting off your ass to go talk face to face to neighbors, church pastors, politicians and the media. If you were in my neighborhood, you could not find people that lived here longer than twenty years that don't know who I am. Hell, that goes for the whole county.

ROLLEYES

The way the left beat the right was to fill it with people like Jim Gilchrist and T.J. Ready. The right laughed and told you what an idiot I was. Where are THEY today? All of those people lost and I exited the public eye and spent fifteen years, bitching about it anonymously. And here we are, fifteen years after the fact and the people you are influenced by have only become professionals at getting their asses kicked. Had they not screwed it up, we'd have that immigration issue taken off the table and be taking charge of a country now run by incompetent boobs... boobs YOU and your ilk put into power while you were getting your asses handed to you by the left.

Right!!!! SMFH

All your posting and jockeying to become the most popular here won't change that. In a few months, God willing, you may hear of an effort that is NOT addicted nor used to losing. That presumes there are a few patriots left that have an IQ greater than their shoe size.

You and your "followers" going to become more than your made up church/militia group? LMFAO

 

[Liquid Reigns]

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

No jobs in Mexico? Mexios economy is growing, there are plenty of jobs in Mexico, the issue is they can make in a day here what takes them a week to make there. They are nothing more than economic refugees here.

Just because the morons running the anti-immigrant bandwagon didn't bother to teach you this:

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

I wonder why many reports admit households with an illegal immigrant have higher welfare rates than citizens. Is this another instance of you claiming you have the facts when the reality of it is you are espousing hyperbole?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

You really don't have the first clue about children born to foreigners here, do you? SMFH Those children are born with the parents nationality, children born to foreigners simply need to contact their countries embassy and inform them of the birth and fill out some paperwork. The parents may move back to their country of origin, take the child with them, and when the child turns 18 must choose what citizenship they want, if they fail to make that choice within a period of time, they can lose their US Citizenship they may be able to have.

* Your political jockeying will not be considered by the United States Supreme Court - which is, BTW, dominated by lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, the most liberal organization on the face of the earth.

SCOTUS will have very little to nothing to say about it.

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

YAWN

 

[Liquid Reigns]

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

You've demonstrated you don't know jack shit about immigration law.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

What National ID card is carried? SMFH

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

What 4A rights have you lost? This should be good! LMFAO

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

So far the "wall" has lessened the numbers of illegal crossers. California has a "wall" along it's entire southern border, illegal crossing went down 95%. gofigure

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

Children born to foreigners automatically assume the parents nationality, the parent needs only to contact their embassy and the child also attains their citizenship, in essence they are dual citizens (provided they truly are born US Citizens).

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

LMFAO, where did your talking points come from? dumass

 

[Humorme]

To what end? You deport the breadwinner and then take on their wife and several American born children as welfarites. Do you think this stuff through?

The wife is free to self deport with her children.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

Just because the morons running the anti-immigrant bandwagon didn't bother to teach you this:

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

* Your political jockeying will not be considered by the United States Supreme Court - which is, BTW, dominated by lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, the most liberal organization on the face of the earth.

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

That's another reason we need to seal the border and send them home.

Americans are already at "home"

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

Are you under the impression that none of these families are already on welfare?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

Mexico won't take their citizens and their kids back?

Children born in the U.S. aren't Mexican

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

Build the wall. Boot the illegals.

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

Based on the silliness you've posted, that's not all you've forgotten.

I've forgotten to give dumb asses the benefit of the doubt

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue.

I forced you to carry National ID? When did I do that?

2005

we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

Excellent! Foreigners without papers should get a return ticket home, no welfare or other benefits.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall?

We wouldn't have millions of Mexicans, South Americans and OTMs sneaking into the country on foot.

You're out of your damn mind. A good cordless drill, half a dozen Mexicans they will laughing at your silly wall

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America.

And we're not obligated to take in children born in Mexico.
Adios dreamers. Irrelevant

And it says in the Farmer's Almanac:

"If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The wife is free to self deport with her children.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

Just because the morons running the anti-immigrant bandwagon didn't bother to teach you this:

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

* Your political jockeying will not be considered by the United States Supreme Court - which is, BTW, dominated by lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, the most liberal organization on the face of the earth.

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

That's another reason we need to seal the border and send them home.

Americans are already at "home"

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

Are you under the impression that none of these families are already on welfare?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

Mexico won't take their citizens and their kids back?

Children born in the U.S. aren't Mexican

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

Build the wall. Boot the illegals.

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

Based on the silliness you've posted, that's not all you've forgotten.

I've forgotten to give dumb asses the benefit of the doubt

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue.

I forced you to carry National ID? When did I do that?

2005

we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

Excellent! Foreigners without papers should get a return ticket home, no welfare or other benefits.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall?

We wouldn't have millions of Mexicans, South Americans and OTMs sneaking into the country on foot.

You're out of your damn mind. A good cordless drill, half a dozen Mexicans they will laughing at your silly wall

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America.

And we're not obligated to take in children born in Mexico.
Adios dreamers. Irrelevant

And it says in the Farmer's Almanac:

"If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble."

You were forced to carry a National ID?
Cool!
What's it look like?
Who forced you?

Besides me.......

 

[Liquid Reigns]

And it says in the Farmer's Almanac:

"If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble."

And Confucius says, "man who eats too many jelly beans farts in technicolor". SMFH

WTF does the Farmers Almanac have to do with this thread?

 

[Liquid Reigns]

Americans are already at "home"

Since you are referring to other nationalities and citizens from other countries, what makes you think the US is their home if they illegally entered here?

Children born in the U.S. aren't Mexican

If their parent(s) are Mexican Nationals and Mexican Citizens (or Nationals and Citizens of any other country), then yes those children born inside the US are born Mexican Nationals and Mexican Citizens (any country of the parent(s)), they may also be born US Citizens (there is no case law that says they actually are). Any child born of a foreign parent assumes that parents Nationality and their ability to obtain the parents Citizenship of the parents country of origin. The child may be born a dual citizen. the parent merely needs to file the documents at their embassy in the US and the child is then recognized as a National and Citizen of said county as well.

I've forgotten to give dumb asses the benefit of the doubt

Boy, you don't know half of what you think you know.

2005

So what is the National ID Card you seem so afraid of. I'll bet you have been carrying one since you turned 16 (1973) or 17 (1974). What about it is any different now and I bet you still have one? LMFAO

You're out of your damn mind. A good cordless drill, half a dozen Mexicans they will laughing at your silly wall

SMFH Why haven't they done it to the "wall" that is already up? Why has the attempts to jump the "wall" been dropping where there is an actual "wall"? You don't seem to have thought much of this through, you just espouse Progressive Hyperbole as gospel. SMFH

Irrelevant

Why? Because you don't like the truth?

 

[Humorme]

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

Just because the morons running the anti-immigrant bandwagon didn't bother to teach you this:

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

* Your political jockeying will not be considered by the United States Supreme Court - which is, BTW, dominated by lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, the most liberal organization on the face of the earth.

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

That's another reason we need to seal the border and send them home.

Americans are already at "home"

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

Are you under the impression that none of these families are already on welfare?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

Mexico won't take their citizens and their kids back?

Children born in the U.S. aren't Mexican

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

Build the wall. Boot the illegals.

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

Based on the silliness you've posted, that's not all you've forgotten.

I've forgotten to give dumb asses the benefit of the doubt

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue.

I forced you to carry National ID? When did I do that?

2005

we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

Excellent! Foreigners without papers should get a return ticket home, no welfare or other benefits.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall?

We wouldn't have millions of Mexicans, South Americans and OTMs sneaking into the country on foot.

You're out of your damn mind. A good cordless drill, half a dozen Mexicans they will laughing at your silly wall

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America.

And we're not obligated to take in children born in Mexico.
Adios dreamers. Irrelevant

And it says in the Farmer's Almanac:

"If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble."

You were forced to carry a National ID?
Cool!
What's it look like?
Who forced you?

Besides me.......

You're trying to be funny and you're off topic. So, are you that uninformed? I mean Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

The dum basses that you follow around like a sheep set the constitutionalists back more than a half century with that idiotic bill. Can't believe that one of your anti-immigrant heroes got that law passed and you laugh because you aren't smart enough to know about it. IIRC, that was in 2005

 

[Liquid Reigns]

You're trying to be funny and you're off topic. So, are you that uninformed? I mean Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

Really? People are "forced" to carry a National ID card? And yet there is no law that says you are required to. gofigure

The dum basses that you follow around like a sheep that set the constitutionalists back more than a half century with that idiotic bill. Can't believe that one of your anti-immigrant heroes got that law passed and you laugh because you aren't smart enough to know about it. IIRC, that was in 2005

Constitutionalists? LMFAO Your brand of Constitutionality is far outside what is factually known and factually recognized.

So I ask again, what is the National ID card and what does it look like and why are you mandated to carry it? YAWN

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

With no jobs in Mexico, it makes more sense to stay in the U.S. and go on welfare.

That's another reason we need to seal the border and send them home.

Americans are already at "home"

* By putting the kids of welfare, it would bankrupt this country

Are you under the impression that none of these families are already on welfare?

* Foreign countries are under no legal obligation to accept American citizen children

Mexico won't take their citizens and their kids back?

Children born in the U.S. aren't Mexican

You can win all the brownie points here you like, but the mindset you support hasn't seen anything but defeat in over 15 years.

Build the wall. Boot the illegals.

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

Based on the silliness you've posted, that's not all you've forgotten.

I've forgotten to give dumb asses the benefit of the doubt

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue.

I forced you to carry National ID? When did I do that?

2005

we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

Excellent! Foreigners without papers should get a return ticket home, no welfare or other benefits.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall?

We wouldn't have millions of Mexicans, South Americans and OTMs sneaking into the country on foot.

You're out of your damn mind. A good cordless drill, half a dozen Mexicans they will laughing at your silly wall

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America.

And we're not obligated to take in children born in Mexico.
Adios dreamers. Irrelevant

And it says in the Farmer's Almanac:

"If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble."

You were forced to carry a National ID?
Cool!
What's it look like?
Who forced you?

Besides me.......

You're trying to be funny and you're off topic. So, are you that uninformed? I mean Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

The dum basses that you follow around like a sheep set the constitutionalists back more than a half century with that idiotic bill. Can't believe that one of your anti-immigrant heroes got that law passed and you laugh because you aren't smart enough to know about it. IIRC, that was in 2005

Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

I'm not carrying a National ID card. Really.

 

[Humorme]

Dude, there is an old saying, never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue. And so, your side not only agreed to National ID Hitler style, but we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

And so your side screwed us out of the Fourth Amendment and you want to build a wall??? Your last bad idea didn't work and more Americans were made victims of Uncle Scam than foreigners affected by such utter stupidity.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall? Obviously not and if I approached with the most likely scenarios, you would ignore them. You have thousands of posts here and not a single day's experience in dealing with the stuff up close and personal.

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America. AND, should they choose that option, your wall and deportation ideas will really be exposed for the clusterph*(+ that they are. You haven't considered what happens if you think you "win."

The downside for you is that you have gotten your talking points from morons with bumper sticker slogan talking points. If you thought in terms of strategy, you would realize there is a major downside to the notion of what if you did "win." It would create the worst set of problems that the next generation could face unless we get into a nuclear war.

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

Based on the silliness you've posted, that's not all you've forgotten.

I've forgotten to give dumb asses the benefit of the doubt

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue.

I forced you to carry National ID? When did I do that?

2005

we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

Excellent! Foreigners without papers should get a return ticket home, no welfare or other benefits.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall?

We wouldn't have millions of Mexicans, South Americans and OTMs sneaking into the country on foot.

You're out of your damn mind. A good cordless drill, half a dozen Mexicans they will laughing at your silly wall

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America.

And we're not obligated to take in children born in Mexico.
Adios dreamers. Irrelevant

And it says in the Farmer's Almanac:

"If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble."

You were forced to carry a National ID?
Cool!
What's it look like?
Who forced you?

Besides me.......

You're trying to be funny and you're off topic. So, are you that uninformed? I mean Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

The dum basses that you follow around like a sheep set the constitutionalists back more than a half century with that idiotic bill. Can't believe that one of your anti-immigrant heroes got that law passed and you laugh because you aren't smart enough to know about it. IIRC, that was in 2005

Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

I'm not carrying a National ID card. Really.

If you have what was once a "driver's license" or you have an ID Card issued by the state, it is now your de facto National ID Card. In Georgia they make no pretense about it. The application tells you what it is.

And the law that makes it so was introduced and lobbied for by an anti-immigrant politician. You can make light of it all you like, but it isn't funny. It set the constitutionalists so far behind that there is no longer any patriot groups left in America.

The few groups left are being led around by poseurs and fakes like Alex Jones or controlled by the millionaires like Rupert Murdoch, the arch enemy of the constitutionalists.

EPIC - National ID and the REAL ID Act

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What I've forgotten about immigration is more than you are capable of understanding.

Based on the silliness you've posted, that's not all you've forgotten.

I've forgotten to give dumb asses the benefit of the doubt

I know that your side thought that by forcing us to carry National ID that was supposed to take care of that welfare issue.

I forced you to carry National ID? When did I do that?

2005

we passed laws making most welfare off limits to foreigners (esp. those without papers.)

Excellent! Foreigners without papers should get a return ticket home, no welfare or other benefits.

Have you ever considered what would happen if you actually DID build a silly ass wall?

We wouldn't have millions of Mexicans, South Americans and OTMs sneaking into the country on foot.

You're out of your damn mind. A good cordless drill, half a dozen Mexicans they will laughing at your silly wall

Mexico, nor any other country is obligated to take in children born in America.

And we're not obligated to take in children born in Mexico.
Adios dreamers. Irrelevant

And it says in the Farmer's Almanac:

"If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble."

You were forced to carry a National ID?
Cool!
What's it look like?
Who forced you?

Besides me.......

You're trying to be funny and you're off topic. So, are you that uninformed? I mean Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

The dum basses that you follow around like a sheep set the constitutionalists back more than a half century with that idiotic bill. Can't believe that one of your anti-immigrant heroes got that law passed and you laugh because you aren't smart enough to know about it. IIRC, that was in 2005

Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

I'm not carrying a National ID card. Really.

If you have what was once a "driver's license" or you have an ID Card issued by the state, it is now your de facto National ID Card. In Georgia they make no pretense about it. The application tells you what it is.

And the law that makes it so was introduced and lobbied for by an anti-immigrant politician. You can make light of it all you like, but it isn't funny. It set the constitutionalists so far behind that there is no longer any patriot groups left in America.

The few groups left are being led around by poseurs and fakes like Alex Jones or controlled by the millionaires like Rupert Murdoch, the arch enemy of the constitutionalists.

EPIC - National ID and the REAL ID Act

If you have what was once a "driver's license" or you have an ID Card issued by the state, it is now your de facto National ID Card.

So you were lying. Thanks.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You were forced to carry a National ID?
Cool!
What's it look like?
Who forced you?

Besides me.......

You're trying to be funny and you're off topic. So, are you that uninformed? I mean Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

The dum basses that you follow around like a sheep set the constitutionalists back more than a half century with that idiotic bill. Can't believe that one of your anti-immigrant heroes got that law passed and you laugh because you aren't smart enough to know about it. IIRC, that was in 2005

Hell, you didn't know that Americans are now forced to carry National ID Cards? Really?

I'm not carrying a National ID card. Really.

If you have what was once a "driver's license" or you have an ID Card issued by the state, it is now your de facto National ID Card. In Georgia they make no pretense about it. The application tells you what it is.

And the law that makes it so was introduced and lobbied for by an anti-immigrant politician. You can make light of it all you like, but it isn't funny. It set the constitutionalists so far behind that there is no longer any patriot groups left in America.

The few groups left are being led around by poseurs and fakes like Alex Jones or controlled by the millionaires like Rupert Murdoch, the arch enemy of the constitutionalists.

EPIC - National ID and the REAL ID Act

If you have what was once a "driver's license" or you have an ID Card issued by the state, it is now your de facto National ID Card.

So you were lying. Thanks.

Up yours. The law is simple. Don't be a freaking coward. If you want to call a man a coward, you do it to their face. That seems to be what keeps you on the Internet, shielded from any serious discussion.

You're a little child, pretending to be Obama. What a freaking joke! Don't rattle my cage. You don't have a high enough IQ to be in any kind of serious discussion.

I didn't say you were a coward, just a liar.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

If you have what was once a "driver's license" or you have an ID Card issued by the state, it is now your de facto National ID Card. In Georgia they make no pretense about it. The application tells you what it is.

And the law that makes it so was introduced and lobbied for by an anti-immigrant politician. You can make light of it all you like, but it isn't funny. It set the constitutionalists so far behind that there is no longer any patriot groups left in America.

The few groups left are being led around by poseurs and fakes like Alex Jones or controlled by the millionaires like Rupert Murdoch, the arch enemy of the constitutionalists.

EPIC - National ID and the REAL ID Act

Your link has such terrible sentence structure it looks as though a 3rd grader wrote it; but I did find this part in it that is quite the opposite of what you claim: The REAL ID Act of 2005 creates a de facto national identification card. Ostensibly voluntary, it would become mandatory as those without the card would face suspicion and increased scrutiny.

So it's only voluntary and not mandatory as you claimed. And since it is just a secure drivers license (not easily faked or forged), like I said, I bet you have had one since the early 1970's when you turned 16 or 17. SMFH

Calling a DL a de facto National ID card is something that it has been since it came about, it is a form of recognized ID, always has been. SHRUG