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This is not a zero sum game. Defending the humanity of "illegal aliens" is not the same as wanting open borders. And scapegoating "illegal aliens" leads to dangerous waters. When has scapegoating ever EVER lead to a noble result?I was moving some lumber yesterday and got a splinter in my thumb. Can I blame illegal aliens for that? When I went to my favorite ice cream parlor, they were out of maraschino cherries! Damn illegals!
If only this was 1938 instead of 2018. If only this was Germany and not the United States. We could then blame all our woes on Jews instead of "illegal immigrants".
Can we make the "illegal immigrants" wear some sort of identifying symbol?
Another idiot who supports open borders, chaos and lawlessness.
What does Nazi Germany have to do with illegals crossing into America illegally for the purpose of enjoying a free ride today? Nothing.
On the one hand you call Trump a tyrant and savage "fuhrer", then complain because millions want to "flee" here and the Right resists? Contradictory much?
Can you blame illegals for your stupidity?
Tell ya what, you can blame your ignorance for the decline in America. You and millions just as stump stupid.
Democrats have gotten so unhinged off the deep end, that they might take your irreverent sarcasm seriously, and propose just that, and then condemn anyone who might oppose it.Votes are more important than arson and murder to Democrats.
So what if they come here and destroy billions in property, and kill firefighters and American citizens.
Democrats need the votes. So to hell with the consequences.
Democrats need a foreign voter program where these folks only come over the border to cast their votes and then go back.
It would save alot in crime and destruction.
Only a racist would oppose a guest-voter program.Democrats have gotten so unhinged off the deep end, that they might take your irreverent sarcasm seriously, and propose just that, and then condemn anyone who might oppose it.Votes are more important than arson and murder to Democrats.
So what if they come here and destroy billions in property, and kill firefighters and American citizens.
Democrats need the votes. So to hell with the consequences.
Democrats need a foreign voter program where these folks only come over the border to cast their votes and then go back.
It would save alot in crime and destruction.
GAO confirmed it. Do you read OPs ? (and their links)This fake shit again? You RWNJs will believe anything
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/immigrants-california-wildfires/
Local governments in California are symptomatic of the whole rottenness of the state as a whole. Gone so far into illegal immigration, that now the politicians there react to the illegal alien vote, and kiss their asses on just about everything.So you refuse to consider the possibility because ICE said so? Is snopes a flame resistant enough shield? Local government vs. federal government; interesting dynamic these days.
Sonoma sheriff blasts ICE for spreading 'misinformation' on arson suspect
This is on of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. The California govt officials (including high rank cops) will say anything to cover for illegal aliens, who are sacred cows off limits to any criticism. Gonzales told the deputies he lit the fire to warm himself up. Well, anyone who has ever lived in California, knows that there, in the summer dry season, any tiny spark or cigarette can start a massive wildfire that can erupt instantaneously, and stretch for miles within minutes.Two completely different subjects. Nobody, including ICE, has any reason to believe he was guilty of starting the fire. In fact they said it was highly unlikely. The man was charged with starting a small fire to warm himself. That had nothing to do with the wild fire, or how it started.
If you want to discuss problems between ICE and the sheriff's department, concerning illegal aliens, then start a thread on that, but this thread is about who is starting wild fires.
This is on of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. The California govt officials (including high rank cops) will say anything to cover for illegal aliens, who are sacred cows off limits to any criticism. Gonzales told the deputies he lit the fire to warm himself up. Well, anyone who has ever lived in California, knows that there, in the summer dry season, any tiny spark or cigarette can start a massive wildfire that can erupt instantaneously, and stretch for miles within minutes.Two completely different subjects. Nobody, including ICE, has any reason to believe he was guilty of starting the fire. In fact they said it was highly unlikely. The man was charged with starting a small fire to warm himself. That had nothing to do with the wild fire, or how it started.
If you want to discuss problems between ICE and the sheriff's department, concerning illegal aliens, then start a thread on that, but this thread is about who is starting wild fires.
Oh "they" said it was highly unlikely Gonzales was guilty of starting the fire, did they ? LOL. Problem there is the "they" happens to be a Sheriff Dept in California, and you know who has about the lowest credibility of anyone in America ? That would be government officials in California, when it comes to matters of illegal aliens. Of course he started the fire, ICE knows that, and so does everyone else.
That you believe snopes says everything. Illegals have indeed started fires!It has been recognized (at least by conservatives) that some (if not many) of the wildfires raging in California, resulting in dozens of deaths and losses of hundreds of homes, have been set by illegal aliens. The US Border Patrol is familiar with how illegal aliens being chased by them, use a tactic of lighting fires to distract the officers, and stymie their pursuits.
It is has also been reported in a 2011 GAO report, that illegal aliens often attack firefighters trying to extinguish the fires. Fires then rage on and get out of control, as the firefighter have to wait for law enforcement to arrive. In a statement from the US Forest Service >> "Firefighters are instructed not to use radios when they encounter illegal border crossers because illegal border crossers may believe the firefighters are reporting their location to law enforcement, and may react violently."
The situation goes beyond California. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), issued a (rare for him) statement linking a series of Arizona brush fires to "people who have crossed our border illegally." Predictably, McCain's statement was attacked by an onslaught of illegal alien lover liberals (La Raza, Randy Parraz, the Washington Post, Raul Grijalva, et al). Five month later, the government Accountabiity Office released its investigative report on Arizona wildfires" They're mostly caused by illegal aliens.
In another case, Johnny Sanchez, a 21-year-old citizen of Honduras, was arrested in connection with a fire on Los Angeles. Sanchez, charged with murder in the California fire, had prior arrests, was never deported. In another case, Jesus Fabian Gonzalez - Arsonist who set fires in California is an illegal alien who was deported five times… but California gave him “sanctuary”. Gonzales is being held by the Sonoma County Sheriff Dept.
These are just a few examples. Surely, there are also American arsonists who do get caught in the act, but there is no doubt that if our border were secured (including a wall), less fires would be burning, homes and lives would be saved.
So what has been done with this monstrous situation ? Incredibly, even with something as disastrous as this, liberal officials play politics, and do what they can to protect illegal aliens (and their votes we can be assured). This passage from the Ann Coulter book, Adios, America! is informative ...>> "After noticing that a lot of the wildland fires in California's Cleveland National Forest were being set by illegal aliens, The Border Agency Fire Council in southern California decided the solution was to hire Americans to go into the areas trafficked by illegals and put their fires out for them. Maybe we could cook their food and give them space heaters too. Not incidentally the Fire council is made up of 43 US and Mexican government agencies. Weirdly, it didn't occur to them to stop the illegal activity leading to the fires. Instead of being made a laughingstock, the Fire Council's approach was touted as an innovative approach by the GAO in its report to Congress."
https://www.gao.gov/assets/590/586139.pdf
Arsonist who set fires in California an illegal alien who was deported five times… but California gave him “sanctuary”
Ann Coulter, Adios Amigo, 2015, pg. 196-198.
Illegal immigrant charged with murder in California fire had prior arrests, was never deported
Illegal Alien Arrested for Starting Massive Colorado Forest Fire
This fake shit again? You RWNJs will believe anything
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/immigrants-california-wildfires/
The Sonoma cops told them. So did homeless people who know Gonzales >>ICE didn't have anything to do with the arrest. How do they know what the circumstances were?
He is trolling your thread and can do so because he is not a conservative!GAO confirmed it. Do you read OPs ? (and their links)This fake shit again? You RWNJs will believe anything
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/immigrants-california-wildfires/
INVALIDATION is hard-wired into liberals.
So when they do commit crimes you look the other way ? You running for office as a Democrat ?I was moving some lumber yesterday and got a splinter in my thumb. Can I blame illegal aliens for that? When I went to my favorite ice cream parlor, they were out of maraschino cherries! Damn illegals!
If only this was 1938 instead of 2018. If only this was Germany and not the United States. We could then blame all our woes on Jews instead of "illegal immigrants".
Can we make the "illegal immigrants" wear some sort of identifying symbol?
No problem. The more he talks, the more it gives me a chance to throw more light on the issue. Let him walk into my trap if he so wishes.He is trolling your thread and can do so because he is not a conservative!
Cops in California who arrested the creeps verify it. GAO said it's illegals too.This is not a zero sum game. Defending the humanity of "illegal aliens" is not the same as wanting open borders. And scapegoating "illegal aliens" leads to dangerous waters. When has scapegoating ever EVER lead to a noble result?
I'm very sure that you're NOT pretty sure.I'm pretty sure Trump and his supporters have the lowest credibility of all.
I don't blame them for every problem in the world. No one can be that stupid, right?So when they do commit crimes you look the other way ? You running for office as a Democrat ?I was moving some lumber yesterday and got a splinter in my thumb. Can I blame illegal aliens for that? When I went to my favorite ice cream parlor, they were out of maraschino cherries! Damn illegals!
If only this was 1938 instead of 2018. If only this was Germany and not the United States. We could then blame all our woes on Jews instead of "illegal immigrants".
Can we make the "illegal immigrants" wear some sort of identifying symbol?
Right. So you blame them for they are to blame for. Got a problem with that ?I don't blame them for every problem in the world. No one can be that stupid, right?
Amd that report was published when?Right. So you blame them for they are to blame for. Got a problem with that ?I don't blame them for every problem in the world. No one can be that stupid, right?
see Appendix III of the GAO link in the OP (I couldn't copy/paste it)
