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Never mind Del, in his story Johnson resigned.

I guess we know which bucket to throw this guy into.

BFGRN have you met Sealybobo yet? Maybe Truthmatters? If not, just introduce yourself as a new member of their club.

Have a nice day!
 
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Reagan...you mean The Great American Socialist...Reagan?

Socialism has been much in the news for some months. Recently, some GOP stalwarts charged President Obama with preaching the heresy. John Boehner, the House minority leader, characterized Obama's stimulus package as, "one big down payment on a new American socialist experiment."

"Socialism" is a pejorative term in American politics and needs to be carefully examined. It usually refers to increased government control over the economy, or policies that promote the redistribution of wealth. There is no doubt that President Obama's economic measures, passed and proposed, will raise tax rates on the richest Americans to pay for increased government funding of health care, green energy and education. So the new president is indeed a redistributionist, but so was Ronald Reagan, except that Obama's plans will transfer wealth from the rich to the poor, whereas Reagan's bills transferred wealth from the poor and the middle class to the opulent. In fact, Obama's measures are puny, whereas Reagan's were massive. If the Democrat is a "small" socialist, Reagan was the Great American Socialist.

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"Washington couldn't tell a lie, Nixon couldn't tell the truth, and Reagan couldn't tell the difference."
Mort Sahl

If you believe it when somebody tells you that Ronald Reagan or his policies were socialist in character, then I would suggest you need to go take a few political science courses so that you won't be so confused in the future.

No, I think you need to replace your pea brain with a real one...did Ronald Reagan redistribute wealth?

Hell yes...from the Amercan middle class to the American monied classes.
 
no, i think you need to replace your pea brain with a real one...did ronald reagan redistribute wealth?

now you are just being annoying. Answer the fucking question!

Was the war on poverty working in 1980, carter's last year in office. Stop obfuscating and deflecting, and answer the question. It was your assertion, now back it up, or stfu.

fuck you

game, set and match
 
War on Poverty

Results and legacy

In the decade following the 1964 introduction of the war on poverty, poverty rates in the U.S. dropped to their lowest level to date: 11.1% .
wiki
 
Never mind Del, in his story Johnson resigned.

I guess we know which bucket to throw this guy into.

BFGRN have you met Sealybobo yet? Maybe Truthmatters? If not, just introduce yourself as a new member of their club.

Have a nice day!


Translation...Tech_Esq CUT & RUN...
 
If you believe it when somebody tells you that Ronald Reagan or his policies were socialist in character, then I would suggest you need to go take a few political science courses so that you won't be so confused in the future.

No, I think you need to replace your pea brain with a real one...did Ronald Reagan redistribute wealth?

Hell yes...from the Amercan middle class to the American monied classes.

Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor
 
That's fine, but JFK liberalism, if that's what you want to call it, differs from the classical liberalism of the founders of the United States.

Kevin...first of all, liberalism is not the cookie cutter conformity of conservatism. Our founding fathers were individuals, but they shared a common desire for the SAME things JFK so eloquently forwarded:
For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.

Sounds a lot like words Thomas Jefferson used in the Declaration of Independence.

The liberalism and beliefs of our founding fathers differed among them. Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton had vastly different visions of how their new republic should proceed...

I don't think you can apply rigid ideology to such enlightened men as Thomas Jefferson, whose own beliefs constantly evolved up until his death...


I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered at the White House - with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.
President John F. Kennedy (Speaking at a White House dinner for Nobel Prize winners, 1962)

I'm not sure why you think I'm comparing classical liberalism with conservatism, because that is certainly not the case.

You're right about Hamilton and Jefferson being very different, however, the nation was founded on the principles of classical liberalism.
 

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