If You're Not Libertarian, Then What Do You Support?

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  1. GeoLaureate8
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    ...Fascist Totalitarian Authoritarianism.

    Liberals support big government controlling your lives.
    Conservatives support big government controlling your lives.

    How?

    Liberals don't believe in economic freedom and individual liberty.
    Conservatives don't believe in social freedom and individual liberty.

    Both Democrats and Republicans are two pillars that uphold the global fascist dictatorship.

    How come nobody from either speaks out and defends freedom and the Constitution?

    If you're not Libertarian (or some variation of it: Minarchist, Anarchist, Panarchist, Geoist, etc.), then your position is simply indefensible unless you are willing to concede that you are against freedom.


    If you think you can defend your non-Libertarian views, then please feel free to do so.


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    Okay... I am a Libertarian, but dont ya think this might be overstating things just a tad?
     
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    as a libertarian, i approve this thread.
     
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    I'd rather not use euphemisms. I just call it what it is.

    Also, we aren't just being enslaved physically, but also psychologically. There is psychological warfare going on and that's why people have this confused look on their face when you tell them they aren't living in a free country.

    For example, they gave the Patriot Act a clever name to disguise the fact that it's bill that authorizes a big brother government that can spy on and enslave everyone it wants to. Luckily, many people have woken up and are not fooled by the Patriot Act, but that's how they do it.

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    The Constitution of the United States. Try it sometime.
     
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    Let me ask something, when economic freedom spits in the face of social freedom, which side wins?

    Hey... tell me the Libertarian REAL LIFE plan to deal with Poverty, health Care and our Old Age(I'm 46, don't have time to re-invent myself), and I might bite.

    I don't want to hear about "with increased opportunities....or "Once economic freedom is achieved..."

    I want to know what the plan is to deal with it now.

    Because other than the Libertarian Point of View on Social and societal issues, I am on board. I call myself a "Liberaltarian" all the time. I agree with many of the tenants of Libertarianism, I just cannot abandon the poor.
     
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    I have. I mentioned it in the OP.

    Btw, it's the Libertarians who tend to be the strict Constitutionalists, not anybody else.


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    I don't see how that could happen.

    If there's a demand for assisting poverty, providing healthcare, and assisting seniors, then the free market will provide it.

    For example, rather than the government taking your tax dollars out of your hard earned paycheck and spending it on wars rather than your healthcare, then it's best to put your money into a private health insurance company run similar to car insurance companies.

    As far as poverty and senior citizens go, we already see the private sector assisting the poor with homeless shelters and assisted living as well as senior retirement homes.

    As with anything, processes of change take time. No ideology can provide an instant fix, but Libertarianism would fix it real quick.

    I myself have called my position Left Libertarianism, so we might be on the same page, though I don't lean that far left, just a tad.

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    You're confusing conservative with republican.

    And using a very broad brush with people that call themselves conservatives. We are not all a bunch of bible thumpers.
     
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    Narco-libertarians are descended from anarchists and are thus 2nd cousins to communists. They support the tyranny of the individual.
     

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