If You're Innocent...

Bullypulpit

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<center><h1><font color=red>If You're Innocent...</font></h1></center>

...Then you don't have anything to hide. Or so goes the argument made by many of those who support Dubbyuh's domestic spying program. So, let's look at a logical extension of this argument.

If they're innocent of any wrong-doing or malfeasence, there is no reason for the Bush administration to withhold information about its response to Hurricane Katrina.

If they're innocent of any wrong-doing, there is no reason for the Bush administration not to turn over the name(s)of the individual(s) responsible for blowing Valerie Plam's cover. And let's not forget that this led to the rolling up of a program to indterdict the transfer of weapons technology...a program vital to national security.

If he is innocent of any wrong-doing, there is no reason for Dick Cheney to withold documents pertaining to his energy policy task force. As it was he fought tooth and nail to keep those documents secret. What's he got to hide if he's done nothing wrong?

If they're innocent of any wrong-doing, why did the Bush administration stonewall the 9-11 Commission? After all, they've nothing to hide...or do they?

If they've done nothing wrong, then the Bush administration will have no difficulty laying out all of the information leading to the decision to go to war with Iraq. But since they seem unwilling to do this, it leaves one wondering what they've got to hide.

If we the people are to be subjected to continuous and ongoing surveillance...If we the people are expected to surrender our right to privacy...Doesn't seem apropriate that our elected leaders and their staff be subjected to the same level of scrutiny? Apparently not. They seem to hold themselves to be above the law and in a nation of laws, this is not just acceptable, it is intolerable.
 
Bullypulpit said:
<center><h1><font color=red>If You're Innocent...</font></h1></center>

...Then you don't have anything to hide. Or so goes the argument made by many of those who support Dubbyuh's domestic spying program. So, let's look at a logical extension of this argument.

If they're innocent of any wrong-doing or malfeasence, there is no reason for the Bush administration to withhold information about its response to Hurricane Katrina.

If they're innocent of any wrong-doing, there is no reason for the Bush administration not to turn over the name(s)of the individual(s) responsible for blowing Valerie Plam's cover. And let's not forget that this led to the rolling up of a program to indterdict the transfer of weapons technology...a program vital to national security.

If he is innocent of any wrong-doing, there is no reason for Dick Cheney to withold documents pertaining to his energy policy task force. As it was he fought tooth and nail to keep those documents secret. What's he got to hide if he's done nothing wrong?

If they're innocent of any wrong-doing, why did the Bush administration stonewall the 9-11 Commission? After all, they've nothing to hide...or do they?

If they've done nothing wrong, then the Bush administration will have no difficulty laying out all of the information leading to the decision to go to war with Iraq. But since they seem unwilling to do this, it leaves one wondering what they've got to hide.

If we the people are to be subjected to continuous and ongoing surveillance...If we the people are expected to surrender our right to privacy...Doesn't seem apropriate that our elected leaders and their staff be subjected to the same level of scrutiny? Apparently not. They seem to hold themselves to be above the law and in a nation of laws, this is not just acceptable, it is intolerable.


It does not matter who is in office GOP or DNC there is no such thing as a two party system...they are one in the same...It is time for a change...whoever is in office GOP or DNC is for big business profit at the expense of the working middle class...they are both liberal in social values and conservative when it comes down to protecting big business...I am a Independent conservative and want conservative values practiced by both parties pre 1964...end of story! If 'you' meaning 'you' are a communist then ya are in trouble...neither Independents or GOP's or DNC's are for your cause.....you are a 'Putin' Dinosaur! Get it?
 
Bullypulpit said:
<center><h1><font color=red>If You're Innocent...</font></h1></center>

If we the people are to be subjected to continuous and ongoing surveillance...If we the people are expected to surrender our right to privacy...

If you're in cahoots with terrorists, I don't give a flying fuck about your privacy.
 
archangel said:
It does not matter who is in office GOP or DNC there is no such thing as a two party system...they are one in the same...It is time for a change...whoever is in office GOP or DNC is for big business profit at the expense of the working middle class...they are both liberal in social values and conservative when it comes down to protecting big business...I am a Independent conservative and want conservative values practiced by both parties pre 1964...end of story! If 'you' meaning 'you' are a communist then ya are in trouble...neither Independents or GOP's or DNC's are for your cause.....you are a 'Putin' Dinosaur! Get it?

I happen to agree that the Republican and Democratic parties are no more than opposite sides of the same debased coin. As for the "liberal vs. conservative" argument, well that's irrelevant. Justice is far more important than the arguments that keep the quibbledicks in both movements employed. And, :wtf:, how does communism fit into this? Communism, as a political ideology, is mercifully dead. A few despot wannabe's keep trying to ressurect its rotting corpse to serve their own, rather than the peoples, ends. It will not likely come back to haunt us anytime soon. Fascism is another story entirely though.
 
Bullypulpit said:
I happen to agree that the Republican and Democratic parties are no more than opposite sides of the same debased coin. As for the "liberal vs. conservative" argument, well that's irrelevant. Justice is far more important than the arguments that keep the quibbledicks in both movements employed. And, :wtf:, how does communism fit into this? Communism, as a political ideology, is mercifully dead. A few despot wannabe's keep trying to ressurect its rotting corpse to serve their own, rather than the peoples, ends. It will not likely come back to haunt us anytime soon. Fascism is another story entirely though.

And we are safe to assume that the Bush adminstrations' goal is Fascism for America?
 

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