If your God or Godss came to you, in a Dream

[HUGGY]

Depends on what they are willing to pay.

In your case, wouldn't a dime bag of crack be MORE than enough?

You tease you...

 

[HUGGY]

So your dog is talking to you now? Please tell me you are not going Postal.

Where exactly were you again in 1977? .... Sam?

I believe Son of Sam listened to his neighbors dog. My neighbors dogs are fools.

My dogs are smart and give good advice.

As in ""It put's the lotion on it's skin" advice??? !!!

That's crazy...we are only talkin about killing people on the advice of "voices" here.

 

[amrchaos]

Does this help?
God and Abraham would sit at arms length and chat by the fire. If God said something that Sarah thought was funny, she'd poke her head out of the tent and laugh at Him. She named her child "Laughter" because she laughed at a prediction God made concerning her.

Not a lot of "faith" was necessary for Abraham to "believe" there was a God. Especially since Abraham relied on God for just about everything! And Abraham knew God had already promised him that Issac would bear grandchildren for Abraham. So for Abraham to believe that if he killed Issac, God would bring him right back wasn't a stretch for Abraham.
Nevertheless, putting a child that you adore to suffer and die would be a gut wrenching, grievous pain to have to experience, even if he did come right back to life. But Abraham's friend didn't let that happen.
So, it did test the strength of the faith Abraham had in God, but what it really did was let Abraham feel the pain that Abraham's dear friend, God, WAS going to feel, when the son HE adored.............

It sounds like an inane test, the way you framed it here.

Possibly, for a disinterested 3rd party, but Abraham and God were close. And since neither participant complained about the actions of the other, after the episode, the test appears to have been effective.

A couple of Quick questions

What did this "Pain" do for Abraham again?

Also, why was it necessary for god to let Abraham experience this pain?

The issue of "closeness" tend to go against the point of letting Abraham experience pain unecessarily. Why would you or anyone else wish to provide suffering to someone if you care about them?

Also, the pain God experienced is quantified with god possessing the ability to stop the death of his son. Abraham did not have such ability thus making the experiences dramatically different, unless you are suggesting God is "forced" to act against his own will?

 

[The Irish Ram]

It sounds like an inane test, the way you framed it here.

Possibly, for a disinterested 3rd party, but Abraham and God were close. And since neither participant complained about the actions of the other, after the episode, the test appears to have been effective.

A couple of Quick questions

What did this "Pain" do for Abraham again?

Also, why was it necessary for god to let Abraham experience this pain?

The issue of "closeness" tend to go against the point of letting Abraham experience pain unecessarily. Why would you or anyone else wish to provide suffering to someone if you care about them?

Also, the pain God experienced is quantified with god possessing the ability to stop the death of his son. Abraham did not have such ability thus making the experiences dramatically different, unless you are suggesting God is "forced" to act against his own will?

It allowed Abraham to understand God in depth. It was necessary because Abraham's relationship to God was about to transcend earthly bounds and earthly understanding of life and death.

Many times in an effort to console, we have offered this pronouncement of closeness, "I feel your pain". That is not a bad thing or a desire to have pain inflicted, but a degree of understanding of the emotions and actions of another.

Because Abraham had become an important part of the salvation of man, his understanding had to be more than limited to the capacity of the human brain regarding things which cannot be seen. ESPECIALLY when the incident God was revealing would be having a profound impact on Abraham's future concerning his own life, death............life.
The first thing the Son of God did after his death on the cross was to make a beeline to Abraham.
God showed His friend Abraham, His pain. To understand it, Abraham did NOT have to experience the same pain first hand, he only had to contemplate it.

God, AND HIS SON, both made the choice to preserve mankind for eternity, by defeating death and Satan at the cross. Neither of them HAD to suffer. They could have both changed their minds. So could Abraham have chosen differently. He could have taken Issac to the zoo that day, but would have missed the opportunity to understand the whole plan of redemption that he/Abraham would be a future participant in.

You, are trying to comprehend it without the benefit of the personal experience. Abraham would have been in your shoes without the enlightenment he received from his friend, God.