If you want to improve education fire the under performing teachers

[ding]

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

Or we could just show them the door and tell them that school may not be for you and wish them luck on their journey. I guarantee that will motivate his fellow students.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

Such a "guarantee" is worthless.

You kind of already said that, amigo.

 

[ding]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

Republicans fight any standards for teachers and then complain that teachers are bad. So what is a "good" teacher to a Republican?

The same standard that is used for any producer.... they produce results.

That's no answer. Give us some examples.

Well... if you were a teacher I would fire you first. How's that?

 

[Unkotare]

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

Or we could just show them the door and tell them that school may not be for you and wish them luck on their journey. I guarantee that will motivate his fellow students.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

Your guarantee is worthless.

It worked for Sun Tzu.

False equivalency; and guess who you aren't.

 

[ding]

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

Or we could just show them the door and tell them that school may not be for you and wish them luck on their journey. I guarantee that will motivate his fellow students.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

Your guarantee is worthless.

It worked for Sun Tzu.

False equivalency; and guess who you aren't.

No. Setting a standard and holding people accountable is not a false equivalency.

 

[Unkotare]

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

Or we could just show them the door and tell them that school may not be for you and wish them luck on their journey. I guarantee that will motivate his fellow students.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

Your guarantee is worthless.

It worked for Sun Tzu.

False equivalency; and guess who you aren't.

No. Setting a standard and holding people accountable is not a false equivalency.

Sun Tzu was a general, not a school teacher. He wrote about military strategy, not education in 21st century America. False equivalency.

 

[Unkotare]

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

Or we could just show them the door and tell them that school may not be for you and wish them luck on their journey. I guarantee that will motivate his fellow students.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

Your guarantee is worthless.

It worked for Sun Tzu.

False equivalency; and guess who you aren't.

No. Setting a standard and holding people accountable is not a false equivalency.

Sun Tzu was a general, not a school teacher. He wrote about military strategy, not education in 21st century America. False equivalency.

 

[ding]

Or we could just show them the door and tell them that school may not be for you and wish them luck on their journey. I guarantee that will motivate his fellow students.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

Your guarantee is worthless.

It worked for Sun Tzu.

False equivalency; and guess who you aren't.

No. Setting a standard and holding people accountable is not a false equivalency.

Sun Tzu was a general, not a school teacher. He wrote about military strategy, not education in 21st century America. False equivalency.

Accountability crosses all disciplines.

 

[Unkotare]

Your guarantee is worthless.

It worked for Sun Tzu.

False equivalency; and guess who you aren't.

No. Setting a standard and holding people accountable is not a false equivalency.

Sun Tzu was a general, not a school teacher. He wrote about military strategy, not education in 21st century America. False equivalency.

Accountability crosses all disciplines.

You just wanted to drop a name, and it failed miserably.

 

[ding]

It worked for Sun Tzu.

False equivalency; and guess who you aren't.

No. Setting a standard and holding people accountable is not a false equivalency.

Sun Tzu was a general, not a school teacher. He wrote about military strategy, not education in 21st century America. False equivalency.

Accountability crosses all disciplines.

You just wanted to drop a name, and it failed miserably.

The moral of the story was accountability.

 

[Jackson]

it's all relative. If the teacher is no good at teaching gender studies should they be fired? If they get found out to be a closet trump supporter do they get fired?

Gender studies???? What is that doing in a real curriculum? Wasting time on Social engineering is why we are failing the students. They can learn about screwing a goat in life, not school.

 

[Jackson]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Evaluate them every two years and no tenure.

 

[Jackson]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

That's what happens when the elementary and middle schools pass the students on for "social reasons." That is a great injustice.

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

No. Competent 6th graders.

 

[rdean]

To Republicans, competent teachers teach "Magical Creation", "Intelligent Design" and "God did it".

 

[Jackson]

To Republicans, competent teachers teach "Magical Creation", "Intelligent Design" and "God did it".

As usual, your prejudices precede you. I was a Republican and never mentioned a word about religion. It was not permitted, and that is not what I was hired to do.

 

[The Great Goose]

it's all relative. If the teacher is no good at teaching gender studies should they be fired? If they get found out to be a closet trump supporter do they get fired?

Gender studies???? What is that doing in a real curriculum? Wasting time on Social engineering is why we are failing the students. They can learn about screwing a goat in life, not school.

Actually the true problem is that the gender studies teachers are all teaching everything else now. If they stuck to what they knew it wouldn't be so bad.

 

[Jackson]

it's all relative. If the teacher is no good at teaching gender studies should they be fired? If they get found out to be a closet trump supporter do they get fired?

Gender studies???? What is that doing in a real curriculum? Wasting time on Social engineering is why we are failing the students. They can learn about screwing a goat in life, not school.

Actually the true problem is that the gender studies teachers are all teaching everything else now. If they stuck to what they knew it wouldn't be so bad.

How many hours of math and reading are sacrificed for sex lessons?

 

[Care4all]

In the corporate world, we never fired a person right off, for not accomplishing their job...

turn over of employees is costly...

and we didn't want what we had to contribute to the gov'ts unemployment fund to go up with too many firings,

plus we felt we hired the person because we felt they would be assets to the company, so we always spent some time with them, training or re-training in the areas where they were weak...

we gave 3 chances, spent time showing them how to do it right...

then after 3 strikes, they were OUT.

Same should be done with teachers...and maybe it's admin/principles that sit on their tushes instead of overseeing and training, where it is needed/lacking, that is the problem?

Personally, I think most all teachers are good teachers, it's the children and parents of these children, that make jobs much harder for teachers in our day...

 

[The Great Goose]

it's all relative. If the teacher is no good at teaching gender studies should they be fired? If they get found out to be a closet trump supporter do they get fired?

Gender studies???? What is that doing in a real curriculum? Wasting time on Social engineering is why we are failing the students. They can learn about screwing a goat in life, not school.

Actually the true problem is that the gender studies teachers are all teaching everything else now. If they stuck to what they knew it wouldn't be so bad.

How many hours of math and reading are sacrificed for sex lessons?

I don't know actually. I do know that at university many entire courses are run by genderists, including the teaching degree. So if you get through the teaching degree and become a school teacher... you do the maths,

you won't get through the teaching degree if you aren't one of them.

 

[bodecea]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

You can fire the "under performing" teachers. But tell us...how do you measure them?

Under-performing students are not flunked tho....and the dangerous ones are almost never expelled.

 

[bodecea]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

Republicans fight any standards for teachers and then complain that teachers are bad. So what is a "good" teacher to a Republican?

The same standard that is used for any producer.... they produce results.

That's no answer. Give us some examples.

Well... if you were a teacher I would fire you first. How's that?

What would be your reasoning?