If you secede, you forfeit your SS and Medicare

[CrusaderFrank]

Every nickel everyone in that state has paid in, and might expect to benefit from some day,

would be gone.

Did you factor that into your calculations?

He thinks such money is piled high in a lock box somewhere, just waiting for us.

Humor!

It is. When's the last Social Security defaulted on an obligation?

When you secede, your state's resident's legal claim to the benefits they paid for all their lives will be null and void.

Some 60 year old guy in Texas, who has been paying into Medicare and Social Security for 40 years,

who's expecting to retire a few years and get a thousand bucks a month SS, and 80% of his medical costs covered for the rest of his life,

explain to him that when Texas becomes a 'sovereign nation',

he will be getting Zero and Zero.

Obama admitted Social Security is bankrupt

Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3 - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

 

[squinch]

Are you going to impeach Obama before or after you secede?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

Sounds like a good start.

Yeah, was that supposed to be a bad thing?

 

[Oddball]

Reload this Page If you secede, you forfeit your SS and Medicare

Which, by extension, relieves me of any obligation to further fund those Ponzi schemes.

Where do I sign?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

They should also be forced to pay the US their share of the debt

Keeping the hundreds of billions they paid into SS and Medicare for ourselves will be a good down payment.

Well, you certainly are all about taking from others. Greedy mooch.

 

[eflatminor]

...we've outlawed forced labor in this country for close to a hundred years, ...

Not exactly. Tell me, how is government forcing some people to labor for the benefit of other people not slavery?

 

[Oddball]

No one who has ever thought it would be a good idea has ever thought it through or even considered that there may be a few drawbacks. They just secede re-enslave the black folks and before long they are all Kentucky colonels sipping mint julips on the porches of their vast plantation estates.

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

Sweet.

When are they going to get the fuck out?

Do they need help packing?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

Sounds like a good start.

I won't have to take all that crap straight from the mailbox to the shredder.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No one who has ever thought it would be a good idea has ever thought it through or even considered that there may be a few drawbacks. They just secede re-enslave the black folks and before long they are all Kentucky colonels sipping mint julips on the porches of their vast plantation estates.

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

Sweet.

When are they going to get the fuck out?

Do they need help packing?

Wait? You mean you don't want Mo' N' Bigga Gubbamint running your entire life?

 

[Katzndogz]

Since the federal government is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy now, the states who would lose federal money are just advancing the future. The liberal feds would just have to start ponying up fees to use the resources of the states. They want to cross a state, pay, they want to use a gulf port, pay. Everyone in the military that was a resident of a secessionist state could go home.

Originally the country was set up to have a very weak federal government with autonomy reserved to the states. It should have stayed that way but it can always go back. The states would welcome being relieved of all the unfunded mandates the federal government comes up with. That alone would save billions of dollars.

 

[Oddball]

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

Sweet.

When are they going to get the fuck out?

Do they need help packing?

Wait? You mean you don't want Mo' N' Bigga Gubbamint running your entire life?

I know it's a big risk, but I'll take my chances.

 

[JWBooth]

Every nickel everyone in that state has paid in, and might expect to benefit from some day,

would be gone.

Did you factor that into your calculations?

No I think Lawyers would argue that Succeeding states have a right to their share of SS, and MC considering they did pay in to them.

The Idea of succession would bring up all sorts of Legal battles over the Finances alone. Does the rest of the country deserve compensation for the Resources the states that leave take with them? What about the Succeeding states share of our National Debt? Then there is the question of SS, and MC. All these things would theoretically end up being argued in court if Succession were to happen non-Violently.

Which of course will not happen.

The lawyers?? lol, you think the remaining United States citizens are going to agree to let their tax dollars go to pay the SS and Medicare of foreigners in the ex-states? Who is going to arbitrate that? The World Court? The United Nations?

lol

So you would cut off SS to Mexican citizens who return home after working in the US?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hmm, photo ID to vote, no more Absentee Ballot blank checks to Obamaphone users...hmm yeah, that's a nightmare right there

 

[LogikAndReazon]

All this dependency on federal programs is tremendously exciting...............And just where would we be without those valued tax consuming federal "employees"

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

All this dependency on federal programs is tremendously exciting...............And just where would we be without those valued tax consuming federal "employees"

I know I wouldn't have just spent 45 minutes at a TSA checkpoint at Hobby Airport.

 

[Oddball]

Poor carby...Look what happened to his "clever" thread!

 

[JWBooth]

No one who has ever thought it would be a good idea has ever thought it through or even considered that there may be a few drawbacks. They just secede re-enslave the black folks and before long they are all Kentucky colonels sipping mint julips on the porches of their vast plantation estates.

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

This is supposed to be a downside argument?

 

[Katzndogz]

It's not good that federal employees lose their jobs. It is good that Hostess employees lose their jobs.

As long as government workers are secure, that's all that counts.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

No one who has ever thought it would be a good idea has ever thought it through or even considered that there may be a few drawbacks. They just secede re-enslave the black folks and before long they are all Kentucky colonels sipping mint julips on the porches of their vast plantation estates.

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

This is supposed to be a downside argument?

When's the last time you went to a Federal building?

 

[sfcalifornia]

Every nickel everyone in that state has paid in, and might expect to benefit from some day,

would be gone.

Did you factor that into your calculations?

No I think Lawyers would argue that Succeeding states have a right to their share of SS, and MC considering they did pay in to them.

The Idea of succession would bring up all sorts of Legal battles over the Finances alone. Does the rest of the country deserve compensation for the Resources the states that leave take with them? What about the Succeeding states share of our National Debt? Then there is the question of SS, and MC. All these things would theoretically end up being argued in court if Succession were to happen non-Violently.

Which of course will not happen.

I think the lawyers would first be too busy arguing whether secession was illegal and an act of treason as defined by the Constitution before they broached the subject of financial separation. I wonder if these secession idiots understand that by pushing to secede, they are categorically rejecting the United States, it's Constitution as well as the idea behind the Pledge of Allegiance which specifically says "indivisible" right after the word "God"..... everything the whiney crybaby conservatives hold sacrosanct.