If you hate Islam but supported Iraq......

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    How do you reconcile the fact that you supported a war that relied largely on the notion that we could empower a moderate faction of a religion that you think is incapable of having a moderate faction?

    Just curious. It's a question I have often asked warhawk Islamophobes and have never really gotten a good answer.

    More succinctly: If you think Islam embraces an inherently evil doctrine that can not be refined, how could you support nation building in an Islamic country?
     
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    Are you buying into rdean's conspiracy theory that we deliberately set up a theocracy in Iraq?

    Even if that is true, religions are not the same as people, something most lefties have trouble understanding.
     
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    Ladies and gents be prepared for an amazing display of rhetorical acrobatics.
     
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    Uh no.

    Did you bother to read the OP?

    I am speaking directly to the people who think that there is no such thing as a "moderate Muslim".
     
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    That's invariably what happens when I ask this question. It's easier now as the Islamophobes can deny they ever supported Iraq.
     
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    "Liberation" of the Iraqis became the fallback rationalization for the war after the WMD nonsense turned out to be just that, nonsense. Remember too, as a side note, that the democratic Palestinian elections were touted until they produced the 'wrong' democratic result.

    Of course now, as you point out, that the past overwhelming conservative support for the Iraq war has mysteriously disappeared (We're all Paulbots now! as I once put it) it isn't easy to pin them down with this obvious contradiction.
     
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    I am all too familiar with the moving goalposts. This is another moving goalposts of sorts.

    You are right on the latter point. It was hard enough to get conservatives (who are Islamophobes) to comment on this during the heat of Iraq. I suspect they will just ignore this now.

    Still, the questions abound.... Did they just not think out their positions? Do they get off on cognitive dissonance? What?
     
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    Did you?

    The war in Iraq was not intended to empower anyone, it was intended to take one tyrant, Saddam Hussein, out of power. The only way your question makes any sense is if we assume that rdean is correct that we meant to set up an Islamic theocracy. It isn't my fault you phased your question to support this if it was not your intent.
     
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    Actually, it was intended to take out WMDs.

    After that went bust, it became about spreading democracy and our tactics for the overwhelming time we were there relied on creating a moderate Islamic state.

    Now that we have cleared that up, do you care to comment on the question at hand, or are you going to continue to try and muck up my thread?

    I understand it's a tough question for some people.
     
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    i guess if you HATE islam, it would be a tough question.
     

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