If You Can Believe This................

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.................right here amidst the bible belt today I watched a really touching "Jesus Ad." Yes sport's fans the church is having to resort to TV commercials in the southern United States. I'm in east Tennessee.

The church supported infant baptism for a thousand years. When most of the public rejected the concept that an innocent child might go to hell they stopped. The scripture is still there.

They hunted, tortured and murdered witches for thousands of years but when the general population found out there was no such thing as witchcraft...they stopped doing harm to innocent young women. The scripture is still there.

The church supported and sometimes accomodated slavery for more than 5000 years but when it was no longer in the vogue they stopped. The scripture is still there.

The bible is written with the submission of women as a sub plot. The church supported that for thousands of years but about the time the civil rights act was passed in 1965 they shut up about it. The scripture is still there.

Gays have never been accepted by any church. They have been placed at the bottom of civilized mankind's totem pole but recently some churches have supported inviting them into their congregations. The scripture is still there.

To anyone who is so thick that they cannot see that the church will do or say anything in order to keep folks dropping around on Sunday mornings...I'm sorry for you.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Sounds like to me after I read you OP that maybe you should spend a little more time in church...

 

[westwall]

.................right here amidst the bible belt today I watched a really touching "Jesus Ad." Yes sport's fans the church is having to resort to TV commercials in the southern United States. I'm in east Tennessee.

The church supported infant baptism for a thousand years. When most of the public rejected the concept that an innocent child might go to hell they stopped. The scripture is still there.

They hunted, tortured and murdered witches for thousands of years but when the general population found out there was no such thing as witchcraft...they stopped doing harm to innocent young women. The scripture is still there.

The church supported and sometimes accomodated slavery for more than 5000 years but when it was no longer in the vogue they stopped. The scripture is still there.

The bible is written with the submission of women as a sub plot. The church supported that for thousands of years but about the time the civil rights act was passed in 1965 they shut up about it. The scripture is still there.

Gays have never been accepted by any church. They have been placed at the bottom of civilized mankind's totem pole but recently some churches have supported inviting them into their congregations. The scripture is still there.

To anyone who is so thick that they cannot see that the church will do or say anything in order to keep folks dropping around on Sunday mornings...I'm sorry for you.

My gosh but you are one angry person aren't you. Heres the deal, the only person you can control is you. If you feel such hatred for religious folks, then just ignore them, or I fear we will be reading about you and your mass killing in the newspaper someday

 

[Cammmpbell]

Sounds like to me after I read you OP that maybe you should spend a little more time in church...

I was baptized before a congregation of nearly 1000 on a spring morning in 1957. I lived in the church until I was over sixty years old. I taught Sunday school, worked with RA boys, belonged to the Brotherhood, worked with the building committee, went on religious retreats, helped with vacation bible school in the summers, visited the sick on Tuesday evenings, attended prayer meeting on Wednesdays, we tithed our gross and gave special gifts to drives like Lottie Moon etc. I used to look around the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and wonder...do those people really believe that the almighty creator of the universe dropped by during the stone/bronze age and left the only keys to the kingdom with a mob of ignorant sheep herders who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat?

One more thing...I was draft age then and after I had essentially memorized the new testament, chapter and verse and was giving testimony in small towns close by as a routine part of my church activities the pastor offered to get me ordained as a Baptist minister so I could stay home. I went into the army infantry.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Never trust a Campbell.

There's about 1,000 years of history to support that admonition.

 

[California Girl]

Sounds like to me after I read you OP that maybe you should spend a little more time in church...

Sounds like he skipped school a lot too.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Never trust a Campbell.

There's about 1,000 years of history to support that admonition.

LOL! Witchcraft, slavery and the submision of women? What support.

Face it...the youngsters arer smarter than we used to be...the worship of ancient gods is on the way out..............OUT!! Brainwashing youngsters may not work much longer.

 

[California Girl]

Sounds like to me after I read you OP that maybe you should spend a little more time in church...

I was baptized before a congregation of nearly 1000 on a spring morning in 1957. I lived in the church until I was over sixty years old. I taught Sunday school, worked with RA boys, belonged to the Brotherhood, worked with the building committee, went on religious retreats, helped with vacation bible school in the summers, visited the sick on Tuesday evenings, attended prayer meeting on Wednesdays, we tithed our gross and gave special gifts to drives like Lottie Moon etc. I used to look around the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and wonder...do those people really believe that the almighty creator of the universe dropped by during the stone/bronze age and left the only keys to the kingdom with a mob of ignorant sheep herders who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat?

One more thing...I was draft age then and after I had essentially memorized the new testament, chapter and verse and was giving testimony in small towns close by as a routine part of my church activities the pastor offered to get me ordained as a Baptist minister so I could stay home. I went into the army infantry.

No one gives a shit about your life story.

Just sayin'.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Sounds like to me after I read you OP that maybe you should spend a little more time in church...

I was baptized before a congregation of nearly 1000 on a spring morning in 1957. I lived in the church until I was over sixty years old. I taught Sunday school, worked with RA boys, belonged to the Brotherhood, worked with the building committee, went on religious retreats, helped with vacation bible school in the summers, visited the sick on Tuesday evenings, attended prayer meeting on Wednesdays, we tithed our gross and gave special gifts to drives like Lottie Moon etc. I used to look around the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and wonder...do those people really believe that the almighty creator of the universe dropped by during the stone/bronze age and left the only keys to the kingdom with a mob of ignorant sheep herders who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat?

One more thing...I was draft age then and after I had essentially memorized the new testament, chapter and verse and was giving testimony in small towns close by as a routine part of my church activities the pastor offered to get me ordained as a Baptist minister so I could stay home. I went into the army infantry.

No one gives a shit about your life story.

Just sayin'.

Yeah and I don't give a shit whether or not you give a shit...Just saying.

One thing's for sure...anybody who actually believes in virgin birth, healing leprosy by touching, walking on water, turning water into wine, raising from the dead, feeding 5000 hungry men plus women and children who also ate with two fish and five loaves...then gathering 12 baskets of leftovers, hanging a man on a tree and bleeding him to death only to see him fit as a fiddle two days later................................is major off their course!!

 

[uscitizen]

Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

 

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Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

Women being submissive is in both the old and the new testament. The church only begin to ignore or deny scripture as in begins to interfere with their donations. That's not only the truth it can be proven to the tittle by studying the history of religion. Religion is/was a man's game. The women do not count.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

Wow... When I go to church this Sunday, I'll pray for you.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Wow... When I go to church this Sunday, I'll pray for you.

LOL!

I'll tell you what...pray for a cure of cancer in the next 30 days. Not only that ask your faith members to join you. Prayer is a major load of horse shit. How about you ask all the
Christian members in the world to pray for a cure of halitosis...at least that's something which can be measured. See...people who pray justify it in their minds by whatever the results happen to be. It's major horse shit. I like what George Carlin said. He gets the same results if he prays to Joe Pesci or to the invisible man in the sky.

"Creepy Voices Heard in Texas Home"

This is something else the superstitious crew have budding...Ghost Stories.

When I was a teen ager I slept on a grave. A buddy of mine bet me I wouldn't spend the night in a graveyard near his grandmother's grave. I did.

 

[westwall]

Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

And Sharia, and most of the continent of Africa and most of the Asian continent and and and. You anti religious zealots are just as bad as the religious ones. Just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone. This isn't the high middle ages anymore. Well it is in Islamic countries for the most part, but not here in the west, no matter how much you try and make people think otherwise.

And religious persecution doesn't even come close to the body count of atheist socialist countries. And those countries blew past all the religious murders, that took thousands of years to accomplish, in decades.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

And Sharia, and most of the continent of Africa and most of the Asian continent and and and. You anti religious zealots are just as bad as the religious ones. Just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone. This isn't the high middle ages anymore. Well it is in Islamic countries for the most part, but not here in the west, no matter how much you try and make people think otherwise.

And religious persecution doesn't even come close to the body count of atheist socialist countries. And those countries blew past all the religious murders, that took thousands of years to accomplish, in decades.

That is the most rediculous assertion I've ever seen or heard. Since you're apparently religious would you like to give some link to back it up?

Religious people must believe a fairy tale...that's a given.

 

[InDoctriNation]

Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

And Sharia, and most of the continent of Africa and most of the Asian continent and and and. You anti religious zealots are just as bad as the religious ones. Just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone. This isn't the high middle ages anymore. Well it is in Islamic countries for the most part, but not here in the west, no matter how much you try and make people think otherwise.

And religious persecution doesn't even come close to the body count of atheist socialist countries. And those countries blew past all the religious murders, that took thousands of years to accomplish, in decades.

And was this immense body count the result of atheism or the dogmatic following of a political ideology?

 

[Baron]

.The church supported and sometimes accomodated slavery for more than 5000 years but when it was no longer in the vogue they stopped.

The Church exist only 2000 years, you know nothing about the Church, I suggest you bash better Islam, where slavery has been continued till now.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ek3xKKnKvQ]Sex slavery in Islam permitted - YouTube[/ame]



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOs_iv6djhk&feature=related]Muslim Slavery - YouTube[/ame]

 

[westwall]

Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

And Sharia, and most of the continent of Africa and most of the Asian continent and and and. You anti religious zealots are just as bad as the religious ones. Just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone. This isn't the high middle ages anymore. Well it is in Islamic countries for the most part, but not here in the west, no matter how much you try and make people think otherwise.

And religious persecution doesn't even come close to the body count of atheist socialist countries. And those countries blew past all the religious murders, that took thousands of years to accomplish, in decades.

That is the most rediculous assertion I've ever seen or heard. Since you're apparently religious would you like to give some link to back it up?

Religious people must believe a fairy tale...that's a given.

Actually I am very non religious. I am however a geologist and a historian and the best estimates for the murders committed by at least the Christian religion is around 200,000. Add to that the million or so killed during the wars of the Crusades, and you end up with a million five hundred thousand being very, very generous.

Remember buckwheat, there were not very many people back then.

Now lets look at Soviet Russia, they killed 80 million according to the most recent estimates, and that does not include the WWII casualties. China, during the Cultural Revolution, is estimated by demographers to have murdered 150 million of its own people, Cambodia suffered 2 million dead at the hands of Pol Pot and his atheistic crowd.

So yeah, when you pull your head out of your ass and actually do some reading other then whatever cereal boxes you amuse yourself with, you will find that the curerent crop of atheist socialist countries are orders of magnitude worse then the religions of the world have been.

But that would require you to actually learn something. Clearly something you aren't capable of based on the evidence in hand.

 

[westwall]

Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

And Sharia, and most of the continent of Africa and most of the Asian continent and and and. You anti religious zealots are just as bad as the religious ones. Just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone. This isn't the high middle ages anymore. Well it is in Islamic countries for the most part, but not here in the west, no matter how much you try and make people think otherwise.

And religious persecution doesn't even come close to the body count of atheist socialist countries. And those countries blew past all the religious murders, that took thousands of years to accomplish, in decades.

And was this immense body count the result of atheism or the dogmatic following of a political ideology?

A combination of both. The ideology drove them, the atheism removed the brakes that compassionate people exhibit.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Women being submissive is still in the southern Baptist rules.

And Sharia, and most of the continent of Africa and most of the Asian continent and and and. You anti religious zealots are just as bad as the religious ones. Just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone. This isn't the high middle ages anymore. Well it is in Islamic countries for the most part, but not here in the west, no matter how much you try and make people think otherwise.

And religious persecution doesn't even come close to the body count of atheist socialist countries. And those countries blew past all the religious murders, that took thousands of years to accomplish, in decades.

And was this immense body count the result of atheism or the dogmatic following of a political ideology?

LOL...the crusades, the witch hunts, the inquisitions, the slavery, etc. There's never been a single entity in the history of mankind which has taken out more humans in such a calloused way as Christianity. Especially when you add the results of George W. Bush's "Crusade In Iraq!" That's where he said God told him to invade when in reaity the mere fact that Saddam Hussein tried to assasinate his daddy in 1993 caused the whole thing. Ever hear of Texas Justice?"