If you believe in limited government and states rights

[Sun Devil 92]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Most Americans SHOULD believe in limited govt and states rights Matthew because that's LITERALLY how our National Constitution is written. You've just hijacked those phrases to mean "something else".. .

Federal govt SHOULD restrain itself from a LOT of state issues -- but it's YOUR side that seems to be the most inconsistent on that count..

You want CONSISTENCY in "states' rights" ?? Vote Libertarian..

Then we do not need a congress or President. Save us taxpayers lots of money. We will all be individual states and individual people, we will be called "A Collection of Individual States"

Sound good?

False.

The confederacy failed because that was exactly what it was - a loose collection of individual states. What the constitution drafted was a much stronger government than simply a collection of the states and outlined specific powers that were granted to it. The federal government should be restrained by those powers though it continually tries to expand its own influence.

It is a false dichotomy to demand that a limited government must be so limited that it cannot exist or we do not need a congress or president (you seem to have forgotten the judiciary though) and is the same tripe that many people like to throw out there to ignore how the current trend of the government has bastardized our federal system of checks and balances. It is a fact that our constitution was written to limit the powers of the federal government by outlining exactly what it was responsible for accomplishing. Everything else was left to the states and the people as clearly stated in the tenth amendment.

I am all for a Federal Government, but not a Gop control of both senate and house. They are ruining America. If they cut taxes on the elites, which they plan, release companies to pollute at will, take away healthcare for all, then screw them, after all its us taxpayers who pay them and give them their health insurance and bennies.

Trump, made in the USA as he gets his trademark in China for Valentines day, is he going to continue buying steel from China?? Who knows, but I think so. He is "special".

You should, at least, try to veil the fact that you are quoting left wing talking points.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Most Americans SHOULD believe in limited govt and states rights Matthew because that's LITERALLY how our National Constitution is written. You've just hijacked those phrases to mean "something else".. .

Federal govt SHOULD restrain itself from a LOT of state issues -- but it's YOUR side that seems to be the most inconsistent on that count..

You want CONSISTENCY in "states' rights" ?? Vote Libertarian..

Then we do not need a congress or President. Save us taxpayers lots of money. We will all be individual states and individual people, we will be called "A Collection of Individual States"

Sound good?

Missed that part of history...did you ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

You are not a liberal and you insult the term by applying it to yourself.

You are a left wing Hillarybot.

 

[sealybobo]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Yes they can have it both ways. For example remember they care about debt and how much the Obama spent? They no longer care about these things

We don't? Is that why trump is planning spending cuts?

Cuts in one area so he can spend more somewhere else. Or so he can give rich people more tax breaks.

I believe in unlimited government and states not having any rights. Lol

 

[sealybobo]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Yes they can have it both ways. For example remember they care about debt and how much the Obama spent? They no longer care about these things

We don't? Is that why trump is planning spending cuts?

He announced today that he was going to spend $1 trillion on infrastructure. He said he'd be building bridges, roads, dams. Just like Roosevelt in the Great Depression. And modernize and re-equip the army. That doesn't sound like spending cuts at all. Oh and he's cutting taxes too.

And companies can only use American made steel and pipe, which will increase the cost.

Sounds great to me.. get the economy growing, get the working middle class back to work with good paying lasting jobs and improve living conditions for everyone plus a military well re-equipped with the best or continue to decay under Democrat socialist slavery and poor me and wait in line despair.

(Mathew would hate it though, R& D, infrastructure and Americans living the American dream is his greatest fear)...

Sounds great to us too. It's what us liberals would have done had you allowed us.

You guys aren't as cheap when you're in power

 

[FA_Q2]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Most Americans SHOULD believe in limited govt and states rights Matthew because that's LITERALLY how our National Constitution is written. You've just hijacked those phrases to mean "something else".. .

Federal govt SHOULD restrain itself from a LOT of state issues -- but it's YOUR side that seems to be the most inconsistent on that count..

You want CONSISTENCY in "states' rights" ?? Vote Libertarian..

Then we do not need a congress or President. Save us taxpayers lots of money. We will all be individual states and individual people, we will be called "A Collection of Individual States"

Sound good?

Nawww.. I prefer the US Constitution and the enumeration of Federal Powers. BUT -- I'll tell TELL you who "can go home".. Out of the 535 in Congress --- LATELY only four matter. That's the Majority/Minority leaders of both houses. THEY decide who wins and loses, how big a voice all the others have and what work ---- IF ANY --- gets done.. So with the two brand name parties HIJACKING that arm of Govt with their "party leadership" and dynasties -- the other 531 SHOULD just "go home"....

I can agree with that sentiment. The power for the majority leaders in the house and senate to utterly set the agenda single handedly needs to change. It makes no sense that a single senator can essentially veto the entire assembly.

 

[Penelope]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Most Americans SHOULD believe in limited govt and states rights Matthew because that's LITERALLY how our National Constitution is written. You've just hijacked those phrases to mean "something else".. .

Federal govt SHOULD restrain itself from a LOT of state issues -- but it's YOUR side that seems to be the most inconsistent on that count..

You want CONSISTENCY in "states' rights" ?? Vote Libertarian..

Then we do not need a congress or President. Save us taxpayers lots of money. We will all be individual states and individual people, we will be called "A Collection of Individual States"

Sound good?

Nawww.. I prefer the US Constitution and the enumeration of Federal Powers. BUT -- I'll tell TELL you who "can go home".. Out of the 535 in Congress --- LATELY only four matter. That's the Majority/Minority leaders of both houses. THEY decide who wins and loses, how big a voice all the others have and what work ---- IF ANY --- gets done.. So with the two brand name parties HIJACKING that arm of Govt with their "party leadership" and dynasties -- the other 531 SHOULD just "go home"....

Look at the money we could save. Maybe we should vote for Presidents and the Supreme Court, have 9 of each, all non partisan.

 

[flacaltenn]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Most Americans SHOULD believe in limited govt and states rights Matthew because that's LITERALLY how our National Constitution is written. You've just hijacked those phrases to mean "something else".. .

Federal govt SHOULD restrain itself from a LOT of state issues -- but it's YOUR side that seems to be the most inconsistent on that count..

You want CONSISTENCY in "states' rights" ?? Vote Libertarian..

Then we do not need a congress or President. Save us taxpayers lots of money. We will all be individual states and individual people, we will be called "A Collection of Individual States"

Sound good?

Nawww.. I prefer the US Constitution and the enumeration of Federal Powers. BUT -- I'll tell TELL you who "can go home".. Out of the 535 in Congress --- LATELY only four matter. That's the Majority/Minority leaders of both houses. THEY decide who wins and loses, how big a voice all the others have and what work ---- IF ANY --- gets done.. So with the two brand name parties HIJACKING that arm of Govt with their "party leadership" and dynasties -- the other 531 SHOULD just "go home"....

I can agree with that sentiment. The power for the majority leaders in the house and senate to utterly set the agenda single handedly needs to change. It makes no sense that a single senator can essentially veto the entire assembly.

.... or --- decide who gets committee assignments -- or gets a challenger in their next primary from the "establishment". You speak your mind and your office will be a maintenance closet. Quite literally..

 

[toomuchtime_]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Ok, go pass a voter identification law and the AG will stay out of it.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Does anybody have any idea what this hysterical person is screeching about?

 

[whitehall]

Nobody on the left seemed to mind when Bill Clinton's dumb assed A.G. authorized the incineration of 80 men women and children or that Hussein's A.G. threatened Americans with arrest if they insulted someone of the Muslem faith but the crazy left is worried about Sessions.

 

[Penelope]

Nobody on the left seemed to mind when Bill Clinton's dumb assed A.G. authorized the incineration of 80 men women and children or that Hussein's A.G. threatened Americans with arrest if they insulted someone of the Muslem faith but the crazy left is worried about Sessions.

Please provide some links of the two above accusations.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Most Americans SHOULD believe in limited govt and states rights Matthew because that's LITERALLY how our National Constitution is written. You've just hijacked those phrases to mean "something else".. .

Federal govt SHOULD restrain itself from a LOT of state issues -- but it's YOUR side that seems to be the most inconsistent on that count..

You want CONSISTENCY in "states' rights" ?? Vote Libertarian..

Then we do not need a congress or President. Save us taxpayers lots of money. We will all be individual states and individual people, we will be called "A Collection of Individual States"

Sound good?

Nawww.. I prefer the US Constitution and the enumeration of Federal Powers. BUT -- I'll tell TELL you who "can go home".. Out of the 535 in Congress --- LATELY only four matter. That's the Majority/Minority leaders of both houses. THEY decide who wins and loses, how big a voice all the others have and what work ---- IF ANY --- gets done.. So with the two brand name parties HIJACKING that arm of Govt with their "party leadership" and dynasties -- the other 531 SHOULD just "go home"....

Look at the money we could save. Maybe we should vote for Presidents and the Supreme Court, have 9 of each, all non partisan.

Please explain how you would vote for someone who would then be non-partisan.

 

[FA_Q2]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Does anybody have any idea what this hysterical person is screeching about?

Not really. I assume he will go off on another 'losertarian' sepal shortly. He certainly has not backed up anything in this thread.

It is rather funny seeing matt of all people trying to claim states rights.

 

[Penelope]

Well, accept Oregons rights and stay out of our business. I am talking to you Jeff sessions!!!

You're either limited government or a group just like us liberals that want to push your belief on everyone. Can't have it both ways.

Most Americans SHOULD believe in limited govt and states rights Matthew because that's LITERALLY how our National Constitution is written. You've just hijacked those phrases to mean "something else".. .

Federal govt SHOULD restrain itself from a LOT of state issues -- but it's YOUR side that seems to be the most inconsistent on that count..

You want CONSISTENCY in "states' rights" ?? Vote Libertarian..

Then we do not need a congress or President. Save us taxpayers lots of money. We will all be individual states and individual people, we will be called "A Collection of Individual States"

Sound good?

Nawww.. I prefer the US Constitution and the enumeration of Federal Powers. BUT -- I'll tell TELL you who "can go home".. Out of the 535 in Congress --- LATELY only four matter. That's the Majority/Minority leaders of both houses. THEY decide who wins and loses, how big a voice all the others have and what work ---- IF ANY --- gets done.. So with the two brand name parties HIJACKING that arm of Govt with their "party leadership" and dynasties -- the other 531 SHOULD just "go home"....

Look at the money we could save. Maybe we should vote for Presidents and the Supreme Court, have 9 of each, all non partisan.

Please explain how you would vote for someone who would then be non-partisan.

Well now that is a good question, but I do believe the 2 party system is failing, and there is a lot of peer pressure as one posted said in this thread, you are either part of the group or a traitor. It would be better if their votes were anonymous.