If you are agaianst gay marriage, you're a BIGOT!

[Vidi]

If a person believes that a group of American citizens should not be afforded the same rights and privileges as all other citizens, then that person is a bigot. Plain and simple.

There are laws that do that.

Problem is they not only want equality, but they want to be exactly the same, and being domestic-partners isn't the same to them. They want everyone to ignore two guys kissing in public, adopting children, etc.

They want everyone to immerse themselves in the same fantasy.

I say let them get married, but don't scream "BIGOT" every time somebody starts giggling at them.

I can agree with that. The giggling is covered by free speech. Provided its just giggling mind you, not slurs.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

My position is the 14th amendment. As you have offered no rebuttal other than insults, you have no reasonable argument for your stated position.

Please review the following for future reference:

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The "burden of proof" is on you.

When the 14TH amendment was written homosexual acts were illegal, and did not give gays any special rights nor were they even thought of. The 14TH is not a one size fits all rights.

Perhaps you'd like to read it again

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It says ALL persons. Not some. Not a few. Not the straight or the white or the rich. It says ALL.

So yes it IS a one size fits all.

Perhaps you don't understand there are no rights given for illegal acts.

 

[bodecea]

When the 14TH amendment was written homosexual acts were illegal, and did not give gays any special rights nor were they even thought of. The 14TH is not a one size fits all rights.

Perhaps you'd like to read it again

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It says ALL persons. Not some. Not a few. Not the straight or the white or the rich. It says ALL.

So yes it IS a one size fits all.

Perhaps you don't understand there are no rights given for illegal acts.

What illegal acts are you referring to?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Perhaps you'd like to read it again



It says ALL persons. Not some. Not a few. Not the straight or the white or the rich. It says ALL.

So yes it IS a one size fits all.

Perhaps you don't understand there are no rights given for illegal acts.

What illegal acts are you referring to?

Well the act of homosexuality when the 14th amendment was created was illegal the 14th does not protect illegal acts.

 

[Papageorgio]

Seems that the ones calling people bigots on this thread are running from the idea of siblings marrying each other, or parents marrying their children, any of you liberals wanting to chime in? One thinks that because it may cause birth defects, it should not be allowed, but then you'd be all for fathers marrying sons or brother marrying brother?

Where is your idea on equal rights for all?

 

[Vidi]

Perhaps you don't understand there are no rights given for illegal acts.

What illegal acts are you referring to?

Well the act of homosexuality when the 14th amendment was created was illegal the 14th does not protect illegal acts.

Nonsense. Slavery was enforced when the Constitution was written. That doesn't mean it doesn't apply to Blacks.

Additionally, the 14th clear states ALL citizens. There is no disclaimer saying "unless they're buggering each other"

You point is invalid.

 

[Vidi]

Seems that the ones calling people bigots on this thread are running from the idea of siblings marrying each other, or parents marrying their children, any of you liberals wanting to chime in? One thinks that because it may cause birth defects, it should not be allowed, but then you'd be all for fathers marrying sons or brother marrying brother?

Where is your idea on equal rights for all?

No. It wasn't ignored. It was answered. Perfectly. By Lone. You've chosen to ignore that answer and spam the thread with the same already answered question over and over.

Additionally, any answer given could be construed as insulting family members and I'd rather not try to walk that razor blade.

 

[mudwhistle]

If a person believes that a group of American citizens should not be afforded the same rights and privileges as all other citizens, then that person is a bigot. Plain and simple.

Thank you for putting it so concisely.

So the rich wanting to hang onto their money like 49% of all taxpayers is cool now?

Christians want to be able to worship the way they want without the government telling them they can't is okay???

The Tea Party now has the right to protest without being called racists and terrorists>?

 

[bodecea]

Perhaps you don't understand there are no rights given for illegal acts.

What illegal acts are you referring to?

Well the act of homosexuality when the 14th amendment was created was illegal the 14th does not protect illegal acts.

Women voting was illegal too. Susan B. Anthony got arrested for it. Shall we abide today on all the laws of the 1800s? Does the 14th amendment say that "this amendment only applies to laws on the books right now?"

 

[NYcarbineer]

Bigotry is the only reason to oppose gay marriage.

No one has ever made a logical argument against it otherwise.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What illegal acts are you referring to?

Well the act of homosexuality when the 14th amendment was created was illegal the 14th does not protect illegal acts.

Women voting was illegal too. Susan B. Anthony got arrested for it. Shall we abide today on all the laws of the 1800s? Does the 14th amendment say that "this amendment only applies to laws on the books right now?"

Sodomy is still illegal. But of course you would compare a basic right to vote to fucking in the ass.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Bigotry is the only reason to oppose gay marriage.

No one has ever made a logical argument against it otherwise.

I will oppose anything that is abnormal. I am a BIGOT and proud of it.

 

[ducks102]

sad thing about america is that they are a lot of black bigots and racist whites. At least the blacks bigtos dont vote in the racist and bigot whites of the gop.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

sad thing about america is that they are a lot of black bigots and racist whites. At least the blacks bigtos dont vote in the racist and bigot whites of the gop.

Idiot you can be a Bigot without being a Racist. Why is it with the stupid they only see whites as racist?

 

[Vidi]

Bigotry is the only reason to oppose gay marriage.

No one has ever made a logical argument against it otherwise.

I will oppose anything that is abnormal. I am a BIGOT and proud of it.

and you also apparently support a government so intrusive it stands next to your bed and tells you in what ways you can have sex.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Bigotry is the only reason to oppose gay marriage.

No one has ever made a logical argument against it otherwise.

I will oppose anything that is abnormal. I am a BIGOT and proud of it.

and you also apparently support a government so intrusive it stands next to your bed and tells you in what ways you can have sex.

I support States right I oppose DOMA get the picture?

 

[ducks102]

sad thing about america is that they are a lot of black bigots and racist whites. At least the blacks bigtos dont vote in the racist and bigot whites of the gop.

Idiot you can be a Bigot without being a Racist. Why is it with the stupid they only see whites as racist?

i know that. they are huge amounts of racist whites and bigots white in the gop. They are huge amounts of bigot blacks. The mainn thing is blacks dont vote for bigot and racist gop that can make policy changes.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

sad thing about america is that they are a lot of black bigots and racist whites. At least the blacks bigtos dont vote in the racist and bigot whites of the gop.

Idiot you can be a Bigot without being a Racist. Why is it with the stupid they only see whites as racist?

i know that. they are huge amounts of racist whites and bigots white in the gop. They are huge amounts of bigot blacks. The mainn thing is blacks dont vote for bigot and racist gop that can make policy changes.

And there are just as many Racist Blacks as there are whites. Deal with it.

 

[Vidi]

I will oppose anything that is abnormal. I am a BIGOT and proud of it.

and you also apparently support a government so intrusive it stands next to your bed and tells you in what ways you can have sex.

I support States right I oppose DOMA get the picture?

So the LOCAL government has the right to stand next to your bed and tell you in what ways you can have sex. yeah, thats so different.

 

[Vidi]

sad thing about america is that they are a lot of black bigots and racist whites. At least the blacks bigtos dont vote in the racist and bigot whites of the gop.

Idiot you can be a Bigot without being a Racist. Why is it with the stupid they only see whites as racist?

i know that. they are huge amounts of racist whites and bigots white in the gop. They are huge amounts of bigot blacks. The mainn thing is blacks dont vote for bigot and racist gop that can make policy changes.

Your clarification is no clarification at all.