“If Trump declares state of emergency a Dem Prez might do the same.”

[dblack]

The global socialists fear the wall more than anything. It is like the third ghost in the Christmas Carol...they tremble at the thought.

So do libertarians. So does anyone who wants to avoid creating a fascist police state.

Once it's up, the push for socialism, excessive costs to house and take care of illegal immigrants, downward pressure on wages, and, future voters of socialism will be decreased significantly.

The irony is here is that the backlash from Trump's fiasco will usher a wave of socialism from the Democrats.

 

[JBvM]

Oh please, my Uncle (mom's brother) was a Seabee in WWII Pacific Theater. He was involved in a n accident in a Jeep. The man was a friggin hero. Fuck you working with or knowing a Seabeee

I served too.........I never played HERO over this...........I said what they do ............Got news for you. The military KNOWS HOW TO BUILD SHIT. They are good at it...........and it can absolutely get done that way.............

No more worrying about kick backs from Contractors with cost overruns.........the labor force is already paid.[/QUOTE]
We don't need the US military building a wall in the US.

we are not some third world country in need of assistance

 

[eagle1462010]

Oh please, my Uncle (mom's brother) was a Seabee in WWII Pacific Theater. He was involved in a n accident in a Jeep. The man was a friggin hero. Fuck you working with or knowing a Seabeee

I served too.........I never played HERO over this...........I said what they do ............Got news for you. The military KNOWS HOW TO BUILD SHIT. They are good at it...........and it can absolutely get done that way.............

No more worrying about kick backs from Contractors with cost overruns.........the labor force is already paid.

We don't need the US military building a wall in the US.

we are not some third world country in need of assistance[/QUOTE]
So its ok to build in a third world shithole.......but not here...........LOL

I'm a construction worker.........x Navy..........the only thing stopping a decent border infrastructure is people like you.

 

[basquebromance]

No one paid any attention to it until this week, but the nation is awash in national emergencies. The national emergency declared in 1979 during the Iranian hostage crisis is still on. The national emergency stemming from “Regulations of the Anchorage and Movement of Vessels with Respect to Cuba,” dating from 1996, is also still on. We have ongoing national emergencies related to Cuba, Sudan, the Western Balkans, Syria, Belarus, Congo, Libya, Yemen, South Sudan, the Central African Republic, Venezuela, Burundi, Nicaragua and Ukraine.

SOURCE: THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

 

[basquebromance]

In a different world, Congress as a body would be more exercised about a potential emergency declaration, but Congress is not a self-respecting institution. It long ago gave in to the imperial presidency, ceding vast amounts of its authority to the executive branch.

 

[basquebromance]

"All it takes is a brief, half-hearted Google search to compile a nightmarish list of human-rights and often dictatorial abuses conducted around the world in the name of “a national emergency,” from Egypt (in an anti-democratic emergency state almost continuously since 1967) to every Fox News Channel host’s favorite nation-state, Venezuela. You know who else declared a “state of emergency”? Germany’s 20th-Century Article 48, and its abuse by the newly elected Nazis after 1933′s infamous Reichstag fire, is the mother of all national emergencies. The rest is History Channel."

U.S. ‘national emergency’ law a disaster waiting for a demagogue like Trump | Will Bunch

 

[OKTexas]

Remember this when he does. He wasn’t going to win in 2016 either.

Trump didn't believe at first that he would win.

and You Could Fit All the Voters Who Cost Clinton the Election in a Mid-size Football Stadium

and when he brought in Manafort, Trump has lots of pollsters and polling .. so dare not look as dumb as you people did in 2012 when you melted down along with Karl Rove

ROFLMAO, excuses are like assholes, everyone has one and most all of them stink. If it weren't for the other 27 States, those 3 would have been meaningless. BTW he could have lost 2 of the 3 and still won. Imagine the fit you'd be having then.

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[OKTexas]

For those of you who did not get the memo:

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano sided with Nadler. Trump has no right to do this, Napolitano told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo on Monday. "That's not me saying no," he added. "The Supreme Court has made it very clear: Even in times of emergency, the president of the United States of America cannot spend money unless it's been authorized by the Congress."​

That's second time he got it wrong in a month. He used Truman's attempt to take over the steel industry as an example, there are completely different laws in place since Truman.

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[OKTexas]

Securing our borders doesn't make us suck...

We were discussing using our military to do it. Not surprised you left that out. It's embarrassing. A real third-world dictator move.

You would have us believe the NEXT ELECTION WILL FIX IT ALL.............that place in your mind doesn't exist anymore.

When did I say that?? Oh, that's right. I didn't.

Why is using the military to secure your national sovereignty a bad thing?

border security is not a war game, when the so-called enemy are asylum seekers and people fleeing poverty

notice Dopey Donald gave up the terrorists coming through argument he had you imbeciles spouting ?

don't you ever get tired of carrying around that man's poop bucket?

They caught people from 40 different countries just last month. Were any terrorist, we don't know. A Fox news reporter ran into two guys from Bangladesh, they went though Kuwait, to Brazil and up through central America to Mexico. Took them 3 months.

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[OKTexas]

Securing our borders doesn't make us suck...

We were discussing using our military to do it. Not surprised you left that out. It's embarrassing. A real third-world dictator move.

You would have us believe the NEXT ELECTION WILL FIX IT ALL.............that place in your mind doesn't exist anymore.

When did I say that?? Oh, that's right. I didn't.

Seabees build shit for other countries all the time............Spending massive amounts of money to do so.......but these stinking retards refuse 5 billion here.

They can do it for other countries but not here huh..............That's freaking stupid.......would save us money........They already get a paycheck and the labor would be cheaper..........and they know how to do it. As they have been doing it all over the world.

so now you want to enlist the Seabees to build a wall along our southern border?

do you people even listen to yourselves?

You are un iggied for this one point..........I served and work with a Seabee........every day..........that is what they did in the service..........he agrees and so do I.......

Nothing wrong with them building here instead of some rat hole in the sandy regions of the world...........Ok I'm listening to myself..........Yes I agree with myself.......

Oh please, my Uncle (mom's brother) was a Seabee in WWII Pacific Theater. He was involved in a n accident in a Jeep. The man was a friggin hero. Fuck you working with or knowing a Seabeee

Army Cbt Hvy Battalions could do it easy. Military engineers aren't allowed, under normal circumstances, to build in the US. But they do have the capability.

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[Third Party]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

Uhm, try and keep up. Trump is walking that threat back LOL

do you people ever get tired of carrying around a bucket of that man's poop?

I agree with how these people described Trump's supposed skills as a negotiator...

Washington Post reporters David Nakamura and Seung Min Kim described it:

Trump’s approach is a hallmark of a president who eschews strategic planning and preparation in favor of day-to-day tactical maneuvering and trusting his gut. But as he digs in against an emboldened Democratic opposition, Trump has found that his go-to arsenal of bluster, falsehoods, threats and theatrics has laid bare his shortcomings as a negotiator — preventing him from finding a way out of what may be the biggest political crisis of his presidency.
​

the man in the oval office is a buffoon

Ahem. here are some current events for you-as much disrespect as you have or Trump, others have it for Nancy and Chuck. Their arguments are based on faulty logic and old time religion-they are just lucky they are up against Trump and not Lindsy Graham. Both sides have messed this up as much as possible. If I did not see the parents of kids who were killed by illegals, I might listen to the Democrat pitch. But when I hear complaining about how illegal kids are being mistreated after their fake parents dragged them here, I get sick. The American kids die and these illegal brats stay here and get accepted by families. Who the Hell invented this nightmare! We need the wall first, and a wetback roundup like we had in the fifties.Peace out.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

Uhm, try and keep up. Trump is walking that threat back LOL

do you people ever get tired of carrying around a bucket of that man's poop?

I agree with how these people described Trump's supposed skills as a negotiator...

Washington Post reporters David Nakamura and Seung Min Kim described it:

Trump’s approach is a hallmark of a president who eschews strategic planning and preparation in favor of day-to-day tactical maneuvering and trusting his gut. But as he digs in against an emboldened Democratic opposition, Trump has found that his go-to arsenal of bluster, falsehoods, threats and theatrics has laid bare his shortcomings as a negotiator — preventing him from finding a way out of what may be the biggest political crisis of his presidency.
​

the man in the oval office is a buffoon

Remember this when he does. He wasn’t going to win in 2016 either.

He should just pull the trigger and then flip Nancy Pelosi off. They should be playing the YouTube video, Trump can’t win throughout the White House on a loop.


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[easyt65]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

Obama declared several...over situation in foreign countries....Africa...lime Burundi

What kind of US national emergency was / is there in BURUNDI?!

Ahhh, ummm...NONE!

Selective Outrage...Hypocritical ...Accusing others of doing what they have done

 

[blackhawk]

Both sides should be careful of the precedents they set look how things worked out for the Democrats when Harry Reid decided to use the nuclear option in 2013 neither party stays in control forever and both seem to forget this.

 

[22lcidw]

For those of you who did not get the memo:

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano sided with Nadler. Trump has no right to do this, Napolitano told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo on Monday. "That's not me saying no," he added. "The Supreme Court has made it very clear: Even in times of emergency, the president of the United States of America cannot spend money unless it's been authorized by the Congress."​

That's second time he got it wrong in a month. He used Truman's attempt to take over the steel industry as an example, there are completely different laws in place since Truman.

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The steel industry and the auto industry caused big ripples in the economy back when Truman was President if they were on strike. Far different times. Today this emergency is a long one that is slowly destroying us.

 

[dblack]

Both sides should be careful of the precedents they set look how things worked out for the Democrats when Harry Reid decided to use the nuclear option in 2013 neither party stays in control forever and both seem to forget this.

But they go stone blind as soon as they're elected.

 

[Obejoekenobe]

“What we’re not looking to do right now is national emergency,” he said Friday afternoon. “I’m not going to do it so fast.”-Trump

Trump may declare a national emergency in the border wall battle. Here’s what that means.

What?

Doesn’t this undermine his argument there’s a national emergency to build his fucking wall?

I think it does.

If there’s no national emergency now, and he just said so, then how can he declare a national emergency say next week?

Nancy has this dude chasing his own shit. lol