“If Trump declares state of emergency a Dem Prez might do the same.”

[depotoo]

But look at how easily it was for Trump to undo executive orders of Obama’s. When they get back in, if executive action was used, then they can just reverse it.

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

I believe that is the point. We don’t want a precedence to be set, by doing exactly what Obama was doing.

Sometimes you have to get in the Mud with the enemy and scrap it out. The Dems are getting away with it time and time again...........Sometimes they have to get a taste of their own medicine.

 

[dblack]

Trump isn’t walking anything back. The media is correcting their BS reporting.

Trump will have a barrier built. If it isn’t completed in his first term, it will be completed in his second.

crazy talk

Trump backs down lots of times. Just ask the GOP Senate

But not if TV people make fun of him.

MSM is a laughing stock now..........Only the hard core left care what they say anymore.............No one trusts them........Acosta being a great example.......Going to and area of the border where a Fence is there..........saying it's PEACEFUL here.............What a CON MAN.

Trump is a skilled con man, no doubt. That that's hardly anything to admire.

 

[eagle1462010]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

I believe that is the point. We don’t want a precedence to be set, by doing exactly what Obama was doing.

Sometimes you have to get in the Mud with the enemy and scrap it out. The Dems are getting away with it time and time again...........Sometimes they have to get a taste of their own medicine.

That's awesome! That means we can always count on the next group of goons doing the same shit as those we voted out. Go team!

Which career assholes are we voting out...................It's like fighting terrorists with Rules that they don't play by. Then wonder why we are still there 17 years later.

Can win a war without throwing down.........and make no mistake........this is a political War........and we are more Divided now than in my lifetime.

 

[Crepitus]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

Betcha all of those were something most people would call an actual emergency, not a campaign promise.

 

[JBvM]

For those of you who did not get the memo:

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano sided with Nadler. Trump has no right to do this, Napolitano told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo on Monday. "That's not me saying no," he added. "The Supreme Court has made it very clear: Even in times of emergency, the president of the United States of America cannot spend money unless it's been authorized by the Congress."​

 

[SmokeALib]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

A Dim becoming President is a national emergency in and of itself.

 

[JBvM]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

Betcha all of those were something most people would call an actual emergency, not a campaign promise.

tail wagging the dog

 

[dblack]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

I believe that is the point. We don’t want a precedence to be set, by doing exactly what Obama was doing.

Sometimes you have to get in the Mud with the enemy and scrap it out. The Dems are getting away with it time and time again...........Sometimes they have to get a taste of their own medicine.

That's awesome! That means we can always count on the next group of goons doing the same shit as those we voted out. Go team!

Which career assholes are we voting out...................It's like fighting terrorists with Rules that they don't play by. Then wonder why we are still there 17 years later.

Can win a war without throwing down.........and make no mistake........this is a political War........and we are more Divided now than in my lifetime.

All the other kids are doing it ... your side is just as much a bunch of authoritarian chickenshits as the dems. Congrats!

 

[JBvM]

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Meh.

Trump has no path to the White House

Nate Silver early on laid out Trump's path to the WH -- win electoral college vote, while losing popular vote

 

[depotoo]

For those of you who did not get the memo:

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano sided with Nadler. Trump has no right to do this, Napolitano told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo on Monday. "That's not me saying no," he added. "The Supreme Court has made it very clear: Even in times of emergency, the president of the United States of America cannot spend money unless it's been authorized by the Congress."​

Yet the former did all the time, just in back rooms.

 

[Crepitus]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

Fake news media needs to die

I agree.

Close Fox News Now.

 

[dblack]

For those of you who did not get the memo:

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano sided with Nadler. Trump has no right to do this, Napolitano told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo on Monday. "That's not me saying no," he added. "The Supreme Court has made it very clear: Even in times of emergency, the president of the United States of America cannot spend money unless it's been authorized by the Congress."​

Yet the former did all the time, just in back rooms.

Yep. Vote someone else in and they just do the same shit.

 

[eagle1462010]

But look at how easily it was for Trump to undo executive orders of Obama’s. When they get back in, if executive action was used, then they can just reverse it.

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

I believe that is the point. We don’t want a precedence to be set, by doing exactly what Obama was doing.

Sometimes you have to get in the Mud with the enemy and scrap it out. The Dems are getting away with it time and time again...........Sometimes they have to get a taste of their own medicine.

I understand that................our Gov't is broken........has been for a long time........Sooner or later you have to swing the bat and let them no there will be consequences for doing it to us. Do you really think they are going to play nice when they get power again? They aren't and you know it.

The people want the border secured.........have for decades.........time to get out the bat and try and fix as much as we can.

 

[JBvM]

For those of you who did not get the memo:

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano sided with Nadler. Trump has no right to do this, Napolitano told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo on Monday. "That's not me saying no," he added. "The Supreme Court has made it very clear: Even in times of emergency, the president of the United States of America cannot spend money unless it's been authorized by the Congress."​

"The president has valid emergency authorities in a time of a true emergency, but he can't spend money and he can't take property unless the Congress has authorized it — that's directly from the Constitution," Napolitano told Fox News' Martha MacCallum on Monday night. "Otherwise he's bypassing the Congress and he's not a president, he's a prince." Trump "may be biting off more than he can chew here legally and financially," Napolitano added. "He is clearly in dangerous waters constitutionally."

For those of you who did not get the memo choosing to ignore the first memo..​

 

[tycho1572]

Trump isn’t walking anything back. The media is correcting their BS reporting.

Trump will have a barrier built. If it isn’t completed in his first term, it will be completed in his second.

crazy talk

Trump backs down lots of times. Just ask the GOP Senate

“ crazy talk”

That’s what I was thinking when you were saying he had no chance at beating hillary. lol

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump isn’t walking anything back. The media is correcting their BS reporting.

Trump will have a barrier built. If it isn’t completed in his first term, it will be completed in his second.

crazy talk

Trump backs down lots of times. Just ask the GOP Senate

But not if TV people make fun of him.

MSM is a laughing stock now..........Only the hard core left care what they say anymore.............No one trusts them........Acosta being a great example.......Going to and area of the border where a Fence is there..........saying it's PEACEFUL here.............What a CON MAN.

Trump is a skilled con man, no doubt. That that's hardly anything to admire.

He's a means to an end..............He's keeping promises.........and this issue now is one of them.............If he declares an emergency and gets it done with the military then I'm done with it.

Most countries use their military to secure their border.............and most countries are NOT SO SOFT ON IMMIGRATION compared to us. This needs to end.........The left will have a lot of trouble finding a reason to tear the wall, fence, barrier down after it's up.............and they know it......why I say build the thing.

 

[JBvM]

Trump isn’t walking anything back. The media is correcting their BS reporting.

Trump will have a barrier built. If it isn’t completed in his first term, it will be completed in his second.

crazy talk

Trump backs down lots of times. Just ask the GOP Senate

“ crazy talk”

That’s what I was thinking when you were saying he had no chance at beating hillary. lol

For those of you who did not get the memo:

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano sided with Nadler. Trump has no right to do this, Napolitano told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo on Monday. "That's not me saying no," he added. "The Supreme Court has made it very clear: Even in times of emergency, the president of the United States of America cannot spend money unless it's been authorized by the Congress."
"The president has valid emergency authorities in a time of a true emergency, but he can't spend money and he can't take property unless the Congress has authorized it — that's directly from the Constitution," Napolitano told Fox News' Martha MacCallum on Monday night. "Otherwise he's bypassing the Congress and he's not a president, he's a prince." Trump "may be biting off more than he can chew here legally and financially," Napolitano added. "He is clearly in dangerous waters constitutionally."

For those of you who did not get the memo choosing to ignore the first memo..

 

[dblack]

Most countries use their military to secure their border.............and most countries are NOT SO SOFT ON IMMIGRATION compared to us.

Most countries suck, compared to us, for exactly that reason. Why do you want us to suck too?

 

[depotoo]

Problem is I doubt there would be any way to get it done before the next election, then where do we sit? If they take either Rep branch over, they will see to it it doesn’t go forward.

Trump isn’t walking anything back. The media is correcting their BS reporting.

Trump will have a barrier built. If it isn’t completed in his first term, it will be completed in his second.

crazy talk

Trump backs down lots of times. Just ask the GOP Senate

But not if TV people make fun of him.

MSM is a laughing stock now..........Only the hard core left care what they say anymore.............No one trusts them........Acosta being a great example.......Going to and area of the border where a Fence is there..........saying it's PEACEFUL here.............What a CON MAN.

Trump is a skilled con man, no doubt. That that's hardly anything to admire.

He's a means to an end..............He's keeping promises.........and this issue now is one of them.............If he declares an emergency and gets it done with the military then I'm done with it.

Most countries use their military to secure their border.............and most countries are NOT SO SOFT ON IMMIGRATION compared to us. This needs to end.........The left will have a lot of trouble finding a reason to tear the wall, fence, barrier down after it's up.............and they know it......why I say build the thing.

 

[eagle1462010]

This is a weak argument. GOP always plays nice and then Democrats do what they want. People complain that a Trump state of emergency would usurp the legislative branch. Well what exactly was Obama and his pen with all those executive orders? What was the Iran-Nuke deal? What was stopping the Keystone pipeline? Plus, since 1979 many Presidents have declared states of emergency. Screw the do-nothing legislative branch and screw Democrats.
U.S. Presidents Have Declared 58 States of Emergency Since 1979. 31 Are Ongoing

I believe that is the point. We don’t want a precedence to be set, by doing exactly what Obama was doing.

Sometimes you have to get in the Mud with the enemy and scrap it out. The Dems are getting away with it time and time again...........Sometimes they have to get a taste of their own medicine.

That's awesome! That means we can always count on the next group of goons doing the same shit as those we voted out. Go team!

Which career assholes are we voting out...................It's like fighting terrorists with Rules that they don't play by. Then wonder why we are still there 17 years later.

Can win a war without throwing down.........and make no mistake........this is a political War........and we are more Divided now than in my lifetime.

All the other kids are doing it ... your side is just as much a bunch of authoritarian chickenshits as the dems. Congrats!

Up yours.................THEY DESERVE IT.............I really don't give a shit anymore...........Been waiting 30 years and longer for them to do their stinking jobs.........Nothing illegal about an Emergency and getting the money to build it that way..............If that is what it takes then so be it.

They will NEVER FIX THIS until their asses have a fire lit underneath them............They are LIARS........abused powers beyond belief under Obama.
To HELL with them.