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Speaking of bold faced lies...#2 is a bold faced lie.the average income in Britian is 2600 pounds or approx $41,000
Income in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
average earning in the US were $46,000
Income in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
not exactly the huge difference
so now youre gonna use NYC, which is one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in as a comparison? thats a bad comparison.... but if you want more proof, it actually costs more to live in London than NYC. Housing in Toyko is much higher too, and the also have universal health care as well.
Top 50 Highest Cost of Living Cities In The World
out system does not honor the individual life, its values profit. until the health care law was passed, it was legal for insurance companies to drop your coverage if you became too expensive or got sick. tell me how that honor individual life.
the essence of universal health care to provide equal access of health care services to all people no matter how much they make or how much they are worth. thus everyone gets equal treatment. the way the current system works is that those with the most money get access to better services than those with the least.
if you really value human and individual life so much, why are you advocating for different levels of care to different classes of society? is a human life really worth less than the value of a dollar?
Coverage Denied: How the Current Health Insurance System Leaves Millions Behind
In 45 states across the country, insurance companies can discriminate against people based on their pre-existing conditions when they try to purchase health insurance directly from insurance companies in the individual insurance market.4 Insurers can deny them coverage, charge higher premiums, and/or refuse to cover that particular medical condition. A recent national survey estimated that 12.6 million non-elderly adults5 36 percent of those who tried to purchase health insurance directly from an insurance company in the individual insurance market were in fact discriminated against because of a pre-existing condition in the previous three years.
but i guess youre ok with denying people health care...... that makes you a real christian
1. There was no groundswell to change healthcare until the Left decided that they could create a crisis, and certain dolts would fall for it....(if the shoe fits)...
while the numbers clearly show that people are happier with their own health care than with the system as a whole, there is no dimension with which their happier than the quality of care they personally receive a mere 15 percent complain about the quality of care they receive..(New England Journal of Medicine)
Health Beat: The Quality Question
The most recent ABC News/Washington Post poll (June 21) finds that 83 percent of Americans are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied with the quality of their health care, and 81 percent are similarly satisfied with their health insurance.
They have good reason to be. If you're diagnosed with cancer, you have a better chance of surviving it in the United States than anywhere else, according to the Concord Five Continent Study. And the World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients' needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors.
Defend Your Healthcare
Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase
2. Everyone in the United States had healthcare.
Everyone.
3. The small percentage of chronically uninsured could be taken care of via government. So, ask yourself why it was necessary to destroy a system that worked well for the large majority...
....c'mon....you can figure it out.
4. The essential different is whether one believes in the free market, or, as you do, that bureaucrats will do a better job...think Motor Vehicle Department, or Post Office.
Americans Without Health Insurance Rise to 52 Million on Job Loss, Expense - Bloomberg
52 million americans is 1/6th of the population.
Britain is trying to overhaul its system... because its 'socialist' system is fucked. But please, don't let reality bite you in the ass.
I understand that Canada is as well...
And Germany.
Their experience is like Maine, Tennessee and Mass. Every time you make it free you bankrupt the state.
Speaking of bold faced lies...#2 is a bold faced lie.1. There was no groundswell to change healthcare until the Left decided that they could create a crisis, and certain dolts would fall for it....(if the shoe fits)...
while the numbers clearly show that people are happier with their own health care than with the system as a whole, there is no dimension with which their happier than the quality of care they personally receive a mere 15 percent complain about the quality of care they receive..(New England Journal of Medicine)
Health Beat: The Quality Question
The most recent ABC News/Washington Post poll (June 21) finds that 83 percent of Americans are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied with the quality of their health care, and 81 percent are similarly satisfied with their health insurance.
They have good reason to be. If you're diagnosed with cancer, you have a better chance of surviving it in the United States than anywhere else, according to the Concord Five Continent Study. And the World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients' needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors.
Defend Your Healthcare
Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase
2. Everyone in the United States had healthcare.
Everyone.
3. The small percentage of chronically uninsured could be taken care of via government. So, ask yourself why it was necessary to destroy a system that worked well for the large majority...
....c'mon....you can figure it out.
4. The essential different is whether one believes in the free market, or, as you do, that bureaucrats will do a better job...think Motor Vehicle Department, or Post Office.
Americans Without Health Insurance Rise to 52 Million on Job Loss, Expense - Bloomberg
52 million americans is 1/6th of the population.
How many of the uninsured qualify for Medicare/Medicaid, but haven't applied for it?
How many of the uninsured are in America illegally?
How many of the uninsured are well off enough to pay for their medical costs out-of-pocket?
Your stale "52 million Americans" taking point is pure bullshit, s0n.
Speaking of bold faced lies...#2 is a bold faced lie.1. There was no groundswell to change healthcare until the Left decided that they could create a crisis, and certain dolts would fall for it....(if the shoe fits)...
while the numbers clearly show that people are happier with their own health care than with the system as a whole, there is no dimension with which their happier than the quality of care they personally receive a mere 15 percent complain about the quality of care they receive..(New England Journal of Medicine)
Health Beat: The Quality Question
The most recent ABC News/Washington Post poll (June 21) finds that 83 percent of Americans are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied with the quality of their health care, and 81 percent are similarly satisfied with their health insurance.
They have good reason to be. If you're diagnosed with cancer, you have a better chance of surviving it in the United States than anywhere else, according to the Concord Five Continent Study. And the World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients' needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors.
Defend Your Healthcare
Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase
2. Everyone in the United States had healthcare.
Everyone.
3. The small percentage of chronically uninsured could be taken care of via government. So, ask yourself why it was necessary to destroy a system that worked well for the large majority...
....c'mon....you can figure it out.
4. The essential different is whether one believes in the free market, or, as you do, that bureaucrats will do a better job...think Motor Vehicle Department, or Post Office.
Americans Without Health Insurance Rise to 52 Million on Job Loss, Expense - Bloomberg
52 million americans is 1/6th of the population.
How many of the uninsured qualify for Medicare/Medicaid, but haven't applied for it?
How many of the uninsured are in America illegally?
How many of the uninsured are well off enough to pay for their medical costs out-of-pocket?
Your stale "52 million Americans" taking point is pure bullshit, s0n.
so now bloomberg is a liar?Speaking of bold faced lies...#2 is a bold faced lie.1. There was no groundswell to change healthcare until the Left decided that they could create a crisis, and certain dolts would fall for it....(if the shoe fits)...
while the numbers clearly show that people are happier with their own health care than with the system as a whole, there is no dimension with which their happier than the quality of care they personally receive a mere 15 percent complain about the quality of care they receive..(New England Journal of Medicine)
Health Beat: The Quality Question
The most recent ABC News/Washington Post poll (June 21) finds that 83 percent of Americans are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied with the quality of their health care, and 81 percent are similarly satisfied with their health insurance.
They have good reason to be. If you're diagnosed with cancer, you have a better chance of surviving it in the United States than anywhere else, according to the Concord Five Continent Study. And the World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients' needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors.
Defend Your Healthcare
Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase
2. Everyone in the United States had healthcare.
Everyone.
3. The small percentage of chronically uninsured could be taken care of via government. So, ask yourself why it was necessary to destroy a system that worked well for the large majority...
....c'mon....you can figure it out.
4. The essential different is whether one believes in the free market, or, as you do, that bureaucrats will do a better job...think Motor Vehicle Department, or Post Office.
Americans Without Health Insurance Rise to 52 Million on Job Loss, Expense - Bloomberg
52 million americans is 1/6th of the population.
How many of the uninsured qualify for Medicare/Medicaid, but haven't applied for it?
How many of the uninsured are in America illegally?
How many of the uninsured are well off enough to pay for their medical costs out-of-pocket?
Your stale "52 million Americans" taking point is pure bullshit, s0n.
You can't be this stupid....
Statistically speaking, the US pays more per person for Health Care than any other country in the world and with the exception of cancer ( If you have cancer, your chances of survival is higher in the US than anywhere else ) we receive less benefit.
So we pay more for less.
Only an idiot would find that favorable.
Untrue.
Judging by life span, the United States is number one.
"Critics of the U.S. health care system frequently maintain that other countries have superior health care we should use as models for U.S. reform. They argue that many countries spend far less on health care than the United States yet seem to enjoy better health outcomes.
However, these claims fall apart upon careful examination. Compared to the rest of the world, the U.S. has top-tier survival rates, choice of providers, and very short wait times. It turns out that the statistics critics cite either are incomplete or compare apples to oranges.
Life Expectancy. Another frequently cited statistic is that according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, the U.S. ranks 18th among 30 world democracies in life expectancy. However, health care is not the only factor in life expectancy. If you correct for two causes of death not directly related to health carehomicides and automobile accidentsthe U.S. actually rises to the top of the list for life expectancy."
Inaccurate Grounds for Calling U.S. Health Care Inferior
Just one more example of Alexander Pope's rule...
"A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again."
or not...I understand that Canada is as well...
And Germany.
Their experience is like Maine, Tennessee and Mass. Every time you make it free you bankrupt the state.
Britain healthcare: British fear 'American-style' healthcare system - Los Angeles Times
"We will not be selling off the NHS, we will not be moving towards an insurance scheme, we will not introduce an American-style private system," Prime Minister David Cameron emphatically told a group of healthcare workers in a nationally televised address last week.
got any links to back up your claims.....
Statistically speaking, the US pays more per person for Health Care than any other country in the world and with the exception of cancer ( If you have cancer, your chances of survival is higher in the US than anywhere else ) we receive less benefit.
So we pay more for less.
Only an idiot would find that favorable.
Untrue.
Judging by life span, the United States is number one.
"Critics of the U.S. health care system frequently maintain that other countries have superior health care we should use as models for U.S. reform. They argue that many countries spend far less on health care than the United States yet seem to enjoy better health outcomes.
However, these claims fall apart upon careful examination. Compared to the rest of the world, the U.S. has top-tier survival rates, choice of providers, and very short wait times. It turns out that the statistics critics cite either are incomplete or compare apples to oranges.
Life Expectancy. Another frequently cited statistic is that according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, the U.S. ranks 18th among 30 world democracies in life expectancy. However, health care is not the only factor in life expectancy. If you correct for two causes of death not directly related to health carehomicides and automobile accidentsthe U.S. actually rises to the top of the list for life expectancy."
Inaccurate Grounds for Calling U.S. Health Care Inferior
Just one more example of Alexander Pope's rule...
"A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again."
And we are expected to accept a rightwing fruitcake blog as the definitive article on this subject?
Americans are the most dissatisfied with the quality and quantity of their health care. Of the 10 largest industrialized nations, the U.S. ranked dead last in health care satisfaction, with an approval rating of only 11 percent. (3) There's no putting a positive spin on this statistic; any president with such a low approval rating would be impeached!
Most of this dissatisfaction stems from the high expense and unavailability of U.S. health care. During the 1993 debate on health care reform, polls consistently showed that two-thirds of all Americans supported the idea of universal coverage. (4) Polls also showed that Americans didn't want to pay the higher taxes to achieve this goal, which many pundits took to be an amusing example of public inconsistency. Actually, the public was entirely consistent. Other nations manage to cover everybody, and at lower cost.
Nor is America's international reputation in health care as high as many Americans boast it to be. "Ask anyone you know from a foreign country... which country is the envy of the world when it comes to health care," Rush Limbaugh wrote in See, I Told You So. But according to a Gallup poll published by the Toronto Star, only 2 percent of all Canadians believe that the U.S. has a better health care system than their own.
The U.S. has the best health care system in the world
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were discussing reality, not what people 'believe' about heathcare.
Why are no socialist countries switching to our system of private insurance???
Oh, because US healthcare costs more and it provides worse outcomes.
Success is self-evident CONZ.
Point to all the demonstrations in socialist coutries DEMANDING they change to our system.
Point to the cost savings of the U.S. system.
Explain how having a for profit middleman saves money on healthcare spending?
Their expectations might not be has high as our but their standards of living and health outcomes are higher then oursNo there are a dozen countries with higher GDP per capital, and the rest of the 1st world has higher living standards then AmericaWe're the richest nation.
Only if you ignore all the data and statistics
Of which two of those having higher standards of living, and of 3 are hindered by not having their own country, and 1 isn't a first world country but is experiencing GDP growth of 5% plus.The spend huge amounts of money on cradle-to-grave styles and you see the results in Greece, Portugal, Italy and Ireland.
It would be nice if when you posted next you posted something that wasn't a complete lie.
Yep the whole world is liberal bias all the information on health care is just lies from the massive liberal media that controls everything. Every fact and statistics is incorrect because its liberal. /sarcasm How long do you plan to deny reality?Amusing how you Leftists will do cartwheels to prevent having to deal with the truth....for example, to contend that 'everything you say is a lie,' you have to explain why my posts are linked, especially to sources like the NYTimes.....
Lets look at those factors. 1) Europeans drink more alcohol, 2) Europeans are older, 3) Europeans smoke more tobacco. If we were to actually adjust health care systems for lifestyle choices we would find that Americans health care system is even shittier then we thought.a. One often-heard argument, voiced by the New York Times' Paul Krugman and others, is that America lags behind other countries in crude health outcomes. But such outcomes reflect a mosaic of factors, such as diet, lifestyle, drug use and cultural values.
I see so its black peoples faultWe find the usual anti-US slant of the Times, in not mentioning that race is the reason:
Name one thing he said that is not correct. I find it funny how people like you are 100% ignorant and then cry when others try to educate you...Yes, we have the best health care in the world, if you're a BILLIONNAIRE.
Otherwise, UNTIL THIS YEAR, thanks to ACA, insurers could throw you off for technicalities, or your charges could drive you into bankruptcy. 750k bankruptcies (3/4 people WITH insurance) and 45k DYING because they had no insurance- ALL UNKNOWN in any other modern country. AND a huge toll on our global competitiveness...
And the traffic accident stuff is total blather...
I've noticed you remain totally consistent: never correct.
This should be your motto: Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver.
Your inability to reconnection that the recession has caused massive unemployment and left millions more unable to afford health insurance is telling of your intellectual capacityDo we have some population explosion that has been unreported? Because just a year ago, it was 30 million, then 40.... now 52! Wow.
Wrong again.1. There was no groundswell to change healthcare until the Left decided that they could create a crisis, and certain dolts would fall for it....(if the shoe fits)...
That is because they dont realize they are paying 2-3times more and getting worse health outcomes while the numbers clearly show that people are happier with their own health care than with the system as a whole, there is no dimension with which their happier than the quality of care they personally receive a mere 15 percent complain about the quality of care they receive..(New England Journal of Medicine)
Health Beat: The Quality Question
Nope dumbass 15-19% lack health insurance, they cannot go in and get medicine, they can't go to a psych office and get counseling etc etc.2. Everyone in the United States had healthcare.
Everyone.
Because it costs 3 times more then other systems despite being shittier3. The small percentage of chronically uninsured could be taken care of via government. So, ask yourself why it was necessary to destroy a system that worked well for the large majority...
....c'mon....you can figure it out.
Heres how much the free market works when it takes over the DMV4. The essential different is whether one believes in the free market, or, as you do, that bureaucrats will do a better job...think Motor Vehicle Department, or Post Office.
your article about Britain is from 2010, guess all those changes they said were gonna happen never did. so you were wrong.or not...And Germany.
Their experience is like Maine, Tennessee and Mass. Every time you make it free you bankrupt the state.
Britain healthcare: British fear 'American-style' healthcare system - Los Angeles Times
"We will not be selling off the NHS, we will not be moving towards an insurance scheme, we will not introduce an American-style private system," Prime Minister David Cameron emphatically told a group of healthcare workers in a nationally televised address last week.
got any links to back up your claims.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/world/europe/25britain.html?pagewanted=all
Health-care cuts in Britain: draconian? - CSMonitor.com
And your article merely says Britains are scared of changes, changes necessitated because their system is way too expensive.
You are rapidly becoming Number One Asswipe on this site.
Most of Europe and Greece have a kind of socialist or quasi socialist healthcare system that pays for pretty much everything getting people to give something like that up is next to impossible. The problem as Europe and Greece has shown is they are not sustainable sooner or later the people paying into the system are out paced by those collecting from it and it goes deeper and deeper into the red until it has to be bailed out or collaspes.Why are no socialist countries switching to our system of private insurance???
Oh, because US healthcare costs more and it provides worse outcomes.
Success is self-evident CONZ.
Point to all the demonstrations in socialist coutries DEMANDING they change to our system.
Point to the cost savings of the U.S. system.
Explain how having a for profit middleman saves money on healthcare spending?
