If the Court Overturns Obamacare then What?

Allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines will have the same effect as allowing credit card companies to do business across state lines did. They will all relocate to the state with the loosest regs and the other states will have no say in the matter.

What state has the loosest regulations, and what regulations is that state missing that is making you upset?

Not that knowledgeable about individual states but do you want the regulators in the poorest states desperate for businesses to move there having a race to the bottom to attract the jobs to their state? Or Alabama regulating insurance sold in California? Sounds like a recipe for vast corruption.
 
Allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines will have the same effect as allowing credit card companies to do business across state lines did. They will all relocate to the state with the loosest regs and the other states will have no say in the matter.

What state has the loosest regulations, and what regulations is that state missing that is making you upset?

Not that knowledgeable about individual states but do you want the regulators in the poorest states desperate for businesses to move there having a race to the bottom to attract the jobs to their state? Or Alabama regulating insurance sold in California? Sounds like a recipe for vast corruption.

Are you claiming that every business in America that deals across state lines is vastly corrupt? And if not, what differences are there that would make insurance companies susceptible to vast corruption that other businesses wouldn't be susceptible to?
 
When obamacare goes, it will take the last breath of hope from the obama reelection campaign.
 
Allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines will have the same effect as allowing credit card companies to do business across state lines did. They will all relocate to the state with the loosest regs and the other states will have no say in the matter.

We need a Federal government single payer credit card company...it's the only way
 
"• Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair.

• Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. We should all have the legal right to purchase health insurance from any insurance company in any state and we should be able use that insurance wherever we live. Health insurance should be portable.

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.

• Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These costs are passed back to us through much higher prices for health care.

• Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost. How many people know the total cost of their last doctor's visit and how that total breaks down? What other goods or services do we buy without knowing how much they will cost us?

• Enact Medicare reform. We need to face up to the actuarial fact that Medicare is heading towards bankruptcy and enact reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility.

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program."

John Mackey: The Whole Foods Alternative to ObamaCare - WSJ.com

This would be ideal

TORT reform is the lynch-pin...
 
Allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines will have the same effect as allowing credit card companies to do business across state lines did. They will all relocate to the state with the loosest regs and the other states will have no say in the matter.

What state has the loosest regulations, and what regulations is that state missing that is making you upset?

That's not how it works in the Insurance Industry.

The State of Florida doesn't care one bit where your home office is, you either meet Florida's guidelines or you don't sell insurance in the State of Florida. Period.

Allowing Insurance Companies to sell across State Lines is a Red Herring.

The reason a lot of Insurance Companies don't sell Insurance in...say... New Yawk is because they don't want to. Getting approved is not big deal. Not that tough. The Company just doesn't wanna deal with all the fraud and the criminality in New Yawk. Much of it in the New Yawk Insurance Superintendent's Office.

Another thing -- Most Insurance Policies, (in the case of Health Insurance -- ALL) are area rated.

If you don't like your Car Policy and you live in New Yawk City, you can't drive to Albany and save $1,000. That's not the way it works. The rates are based on where you live.

Health Insurance is dependent on a lot of things unique to the area in which you live. Cost of Hospital beds, usual and customary doctors fees, etc, etc
 
That's assuming the mandate is severed. It's entirely possible for the whole thing to be declared unconstitutional.
 
Question ...

If its unconstitutional that people must buy their own hc insurance, why isn't it also unconstitutional to force the insured to pay the bills of the uninsured?
 
"• Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair.

• Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. We should all have the legal right to purchase health insurance from any insurance company in any state and we should be able use that insurance wherever we live. Health insurance should be portable.

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.

• Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These costs are passed back to us through much higher prices for health care.

• Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost. How many people know the total cost of their last doctor's visit and how that total breaks down? What other goods or services do we buy without knowing how much they will cost us?

• Enact Medicare reform. We need to face up to the actuarial fact that Medicare is heading towards bankruptcy and enact reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility.

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program."

John Mackey: The Whole Foods Alternative to ObamaCare - WSJ.com

This would be ideal

TORT reform is the lynch-pin...
Whatever else we let the pubs force on us, we cannot let them have tort reform. It's just a nice name for screwing over the poor and working class. Don't let the 1 percent get away with it.
 
Loss of insurance requirement would complicate, but not kill Obama's health care overhaul

Obama didn't want a mandate, thought the popularity of it would be enough...right AGAIN!

3/4ths of the American people don't want it...so there goes your theory.

And 30%of them want more, single payer. Love the way you swallow all the lying Pubcrappe. Glad to see you supportimg the greedy corps and rich fight for your freedom to die in the gutter, idiot.
 
When obamacare goes, it will take the last breath of hope from the obama reelection campaign.



Epic failure for Liberalism across the board.


They can come along for the ride now, but they are going to have to sit in the back seat while we fix things.

obama intended to run on his success of obamacare. That was his centerpiece. He will start out with less than he started out the first time. A string of failures.
 
This is looking really promising. The maggots are squirming, it's great.
 
When obamacare goes, it will take the last breath of hope from the obama reelection campaign.



Epic failure for Liberalism across the board.


They can come along for the ride now, but they are going to have to sit in the back seat while we fix things.

obama intended to run on his success of obamacare. That was his centerpiece. He will start out with less than he started out the first time. A string of failures.

And note whereever he has spoke of late? You hear nary a peep about it. If it was so great? he'd be shouting it from every pulpit he occupies in his relection bid...

OR it could be that he knew the SCOTUS was getting ready to hear arguments, and didn't want to rock the boat with rhetoric?
 

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