If Supreme Court over turns Health Care, what will the GOP Replace it with?

[dblack]

If Supreme Court over turns Health Care, what will the GOP Replace it with?

Nothing, of course.

They don’t believe any ‘reform’ is needed.

Let those without health insurance suffer, say conservatives, it’s a consequence of their failure.

Let em die

Of course it's not black and white, is it? Community and compassion doesn't require government.

 

[hortysir]

Thursday!!

 

[rightwinger]

It's really too bad that our Founders didn't require English as the official language.

It's obvious that way too many misunderstood the phrase 'PROMOTE the general welfare.'

You know, those few words that fall between 'PROVIDE for the common defence' and 'secure the blessings of Liberty.'
Big difference between 'promote' and 'provide:'

- Provide: furnish with

- Promote: Contribute to the progress or growth of

And 'progress' has been stolen by 'liberals' since they polluted that word earlier.
Otherwise we, who believe in self-ownership and personal responsibility, wouldn't have had to call ourselves 'libertarians.'
The original liberals were supportive of small government and personal responsibility.
Now it is just another word for 'control freaks' and entitlement beneficiaries.

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." Ben Franklin

"Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly
upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams

Obamacare promotes the general welfare.....it does not provide it

Did you miss the mandate stuff Repubs have been whining about?

 

[rightwinger]

Nothing, of course.

They don’t believe any ‘reform’ is needed.

Let those without health insurance suffer, say conservatives, it’s a consequence of their failure.

Let em die

Of course it's not black and white, is it? Community and compassion doesn't require government.

Yea....go with compassion when you need a $200,000 operation

 

[dblack]

Let em die

Of course it's not black and white, is it? Community and compassion doesn't require government.

Yea....go with compassion when you need a $200,000 operation

Happens all the time. Seen it go down. It takes good people who give a shit, but there are still some left.

That's what get's me about the welfare statists. The want nice things to be done for people, but that can't be bothered with doing it themselves. They want to pass a law to force someone else to deal with it.

 

[freetek]

Obamacare promotes the general welfare.....it does not provide it

Did you miss the mandate stuff Repubs have been whining about?

- Even with the definition, the difference escapes you? Sad.

- If you made it to the bottom of my post, it should have stirred some neurons that I am hardly a Republican.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If Supreme Court over turns Health Care, what will the GOP Replace it with?

Nothing, of course.

They don’t believe any ‘reform’ is needed.

Let those without health insurance suffer, say conservatives, it’s a consequence of their failure.

Let em die

To be fair, it’s not just the majority of republicans who advocate the ignorant, hateful dogma of Social Darwinism, but it’s also a majority of libertarians and the radical right as well.

That providing healthcare/health insurance for all American is subject to debate at all is a shameful disgrace.

 

[rightwinger]

Obamacare promotes the general welfare.....it does not provide it

Did you miss the mandate stuff Repubs have been whining about?

- Even with the definition, the difference escapes you? Sad.

- If you made it to the bottom of my post, it should have stirred some neurons that I am hardly a Republican.

Yea... Read it

Personal Responsibility is GOP codeword for "Go fuck yourself"

 

[dblack]

To be fair, it’s not just the majority of republicans who advocate the ignorant, hateful dogma of Social Darwinism, but it’s also a majority of libertarians and the radical right as well.

Nonsense. You just don't want to be bothered with helping people yourself. You want government to force your neighbor to do it instead.

 

[hortysir]

Yea... Read it

Personal Responsibility is GOP codeword for "Go fuck yourself"

Actually is our secret translation of "It's not the government's job"

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Obamacare promotes the general welfare.....it does not provide it

Did you miss the mandate stuff Repubs have been whining about?

- Even with the definition, the difference escapes you? Sad.

- If you made it to the bottom of my post, it should have stirred some neurons that I am hardly a Republican.

Yea... Read it

Personal Responsibility is GOP codeword for "Go fuck yourself"

‘Personal responsibility’ is also selectively practiced by the right, government becomes the all-powerful authority when it comes to privacy rights concerning abortion or equal protection rights with regard to same sex couples and marriage.

 

[rightwinger]

Of course it's not black and white, is it? Community and compassion doesn't require government.

Yea....go with compassion when you need a $200,000 operation

Happens all the time. Seen it go down. It takes good people who give a shit, but there are still some left.

That's what get's me about the welfare statists. The want nice things to be done for people, but that can't be bothered with doing it themselves. They want to pass a law to force someone else to deal with it.

I've seen it happen too

The community rallies around the poor crippled kid and helps the family through tough times. A month later when some crotchety old hag needs help, the community has already served up it's fill of altruism for a while

 

[theHawk]

Watching the pundits this morning on the talk shows talk about Health Care was hilarious.

Republicans saying, "If it's overturned, then why would Obama try to pass something that was unconstitutional?" and "How could someone pass something if they don't know what's in it"?

Democrats saying, "We know the Supreme Court is radical right. They allowed unlimited corporate money into our elections and declared corporations are people". That even means Hugo Chavez could influence American elections with Citgo money.

Republicans never think about their own questions. They ask "Why vote for it if no one knows what's in it"? The question they should be asked is, after all this time, why be against something you haven't bothered to read?

Some of the provisions:

34 million more Americans insured

Millions of children with pre-existing conditions insured

People able to put their college age children on their policies

Insurance company rebates gone (going over a capped limit the companies get from skimming policies)

And it goes on and on.

So, if the Republicans are going to run on "Let him die", then good. I want to see how well that works out.

Repubs should pass a Health Care Bill of Rights, to guarantee that citizens never be subject to future "Obamacare" laws, and forbid the state from ever trying to get into the health care biz.

Free up regulations and restrictions on health insurance companies, let them sell it like any other insurance.

 

[rightwinger]

Watching the pundits this morning on the talk shows talk about Health Care was hilarious.

Republicans saying, "If it's overturned, then why would Obama try to pass something that was unconstitutional?" and "How could someone pass something if they don't know what's in it"?

Democrats saying, "We know the Supreme Court is radical right. They allowed unlimited corporate money into our elections and declared corporations are people". That even means Hugo Chavez could influence American elections with Citgo money.

Republicans never think about their own questions. They ask "Why vote for it if no one knows what's in it"? The question they should be asked is, after all this time, why be against something you haven't bothered to read?

Some of the provisions:

34 million more Americans insured

Millions of children with pre-existing conditions insured

People able to put their college age children on their policies

Insurance company rebates gone (going over a capped limit the companies get from skimming policies)

And it goes on and on.

So, if the Republicans are going to run on "Let him die", then good. I want to see how well that works out.

Repubs should pass a Health Care Bill of Rights, to guarantee that citizens never be subject to future "Obamacare" laws, and forbid the state from ever trying to get into the health care biz.

Free up regulations and restrictions on health insurance companies, let them sell it like any other insurance.

Seems like Republicans want a right to prevent people from obtaining affordable healthcare

No surprise

 

[Stephanie]

If Supreme Court over turns Health Care, what will the GOP Replace it with?

Nothing, of course.

They don’t believe any ‘reform’ is needed.

Let those without health insurance suffer, say conservatives, it’s a consequence of their failure.

well you can be generous and buy it for them, but as usaul you all expect OTHERS to pay for it then you can crow how you Care more

 

[rightwinger]

If Supreme Court over turns Health Care, what will the GOP Replace it with?

Nothing, of course.

They don’t believe any ‘reform’ is needed.

Let those without health insurance suffer, say conservatives, it’s a consequence of their failure.

well you can be generous and buy it for them, but as usaul you all expect OTHERS to pay for it then you can crow how you Care more

If you listened to anyone but FoxNews you would realize that very few people will have healthcare bought for them. The idea is to open up affordable care for millions of Americans

 

[Stephanie]

Nothing, of course.

They don’t believe any ‘reform’ is needed.

Let those without health insurance suffer, say conservatives, it’s a consequence of their failure.

well you can be generous and buy it for them, but as usaul you all expect OTHERS to pay for it then you can crow how you Care more

If you listened to anyone but FoxNews you would realize that very few people will have healthcare bought for them. The idea is to open up affordable care for millions of Americans

yeah sure it is.

 

[dblack]

The idea is to open up affordable care for millions of Americans

What does "open up" mean?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Buy your own health care, fuck up.

The government is not obliged to provide it to you.

Plus, if the Gov't is so concerned about our Health and our Health Care then why don't they just make our Health Insurance Premiums Tax Deductable?

Wouldn't that be a lot easier? We could still shop for our own best deals too.

Oh but see, that would take CONTROL away from the Gov't, and that's really all they ever wanted.

The were tax decuctable, until Ronald Reagan made them essentially not. Unless your medical costs exceed X% of your AGI, no deduction. RR also elimiated union dues, tools, etc as deductions.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Question. Why is medical treatment a for profit buisness (Did Jesus charge for curing the poor)?