If socialism is so bad

[EvilCat Breath]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Because it sounds good to stupid people, but leads to tyranny and mass murder.

Have you ever heard of "History"?

Socialism Ian a relatively new idea . How do you explain the centuries of tyranny and mass murder prior ?

You think that socialism is new? Try to understand feudalism. The Lord owns everything. He owns your farm and everything on it. He owns your house. You work for the Lord. He decides how much you work and what possessions you are allowed to have. The Lord decides what to do with the product of your farm. He decides the trade. You may not contract on your own. The Lord owns the means of distribution as well as the farm and all it produces.

This is socialism.

 

[WillMunny]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Tommy, it's personally YOU people on this board hate, rather than the debate over socialism. You are the snobbiest, most America-hating, most America-denigrating Gollum-like, hissing, sniveling, Islam-fellatrix, syphilitic troll on the Internet. You've ALREADY PROVEN TO US that you are opposed to anything that benefits Americans and you jack off over everything that harms Americans! Is your British, cousin-inbreeding, 2/5 hard liquor per day British alcoholic, pissy-natured little shit for brain THIS FUCKING STUPID you can't understand that HATE BEGETS HATE!? Your years of spewing dehumanizing contempt for Americans (not unlike Obama) are simply going to bring reciprocal hatred on yourself. Because with the UK's generations of PETULANT, SNIVELING, BABY-TANTRUM, STOMPY-FOOT HATE against America, there is NOTHING you Brits can do or say that will make us "bloody yanks" take your pedophile-enabling, self-loathing, crawling-on-its-belly-for-Islam culture of British whores seriously! Why is that so difficult for you completely amoral, American-hating prostitutes to simply accept?

My God, you Brits are an island who PUT PEOPLE IN PRISON FOR MAKING A SILLY, NON-PC JOKE ONLINE! And you have the audacity, the TEMERITY, to expect us "bloody seppos" to have one quantum of fucking RESPECT for an island of 110% submissive little COWARD Islam rentboys like you Brits????? Crawling on your bellies before Islam is the only thing that makes your British culture feel alive.

 

[Mac1958]

Who knows what anyone actually means by "socialism" at this point.

 

[iceberg]

Surely if it is so bad then people will reject it ?

isnt what you are bitching at are those rejecting it?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Socialism Ian a relatively new idea . How do you explain the centuries of tyranny and mass murder prior ?

I can explain this one
India's population is said to have been around 600 million at the time of Muslim invasion. By the mid 1500's the Hindu population was 200 million .

still trying to convince people that the department of sanitation is socialism?

carry on then

 

[iceberg]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Because it sounds good to stupid people, but leads to tyranny and mass murder.

Have you ever heard of "History"?

Socialism Ian a relatively new idea . How do you explain the centuries of tyranny and mass murder prior ?

if it's so good, how do you explain Venezuela.

we can do this cherry picking shit all day.

Always with the Venezuela. How about Untied Arab Emerits.

By the way. I’m against socialism! You guys just drove me nuts wh your fear mongering.

so skip my cherry picking comment saying im now doing it too.

does your underwear say "brown in back" by chance?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Socialism Ian a relatively new idea . How do you explain the centuries of tyranny and mass murder prior ?

I can explain this one
India's population is said to have been around 600 million at the time of Muslim invasion. By the mid 1500's the Hindu population was 200 million .

still trying to convince people that the department of sanitation is socialism?

carry on then

I think Timmy was saying the exact opposite.

It's NOT socialism and he is not advocating for it.

 

[tycho1572]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

They are afraid because they don’t know what it is .

We’ve seen the consequences of socialism. It never ends well.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

They are afraid because they don’t know what it is .

like your fear of common sense.

Little timmy has a point, the term has become basically meaningless, everything under the sun these days is labeled socialism. or nothing is depending on where one stands.

Think about this, according to the very people on this forum, a private company trying an experiment giving reduced cost food is socialism while the government redistributing 32 billion dollars of our money to farmers is not socialism.

The word is meaningless these days

 

[occupied]

Socialism or more accurately social programs are simply a way of dealing with problems that capitalism cannot or will not solve. It is not inherently good or bad.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

They are afraid because they don’t know what it is .

like your fear of common sense.

Little timmy has a point, the term has become basically meaningless, everything under the sun these days is labeled socialism. or nothing is depending on where one stands.

Think about this, according to the very people on this forum, a private company trying an experiment giving reduced cost food is socialism while the government redistributing 32 billion dollars of our money to farmers is not socialism.

The word is meaningless these days

Government redistribution is not necessarily socialism either. It's simply theft by government.

"Too big to fail" is the worst example of theft by government.

 

[westwall]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Because we understand that the end result is mass murder. Always has been, always will be.

 

[westwall]

Socialism or more accurately social programs are simply a way of dealing with problems that capitalism cannot or will not solve. It is not inherently good or bad.

if that were true, why did China allow capitalism to infect their socialist utopia?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Socialism or more accurately,social programs are simply a way of dealing with problems that capitalism cannot or will not solve. It is not inherently good or bad.

That's where we reach the disagreement over the power government should have.

One individual taking money from another without permission or consent and using that money to the exclusion of the owner is called stealing. Adding in a third party collector (government by taxation) does not make it consensual and does not eliminate the underlying theft.

 

[iceberg]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

They are afraid because they don’t know what it is .

like your fear of common sense.

Little timmy has a point, the term has become basically meaningless, everything under the sun these days is labeled socialism. or nothing is depending on where one stands.

Think about this, according to the very people on this forum, a private company trying an experiment giving reduced cost food is socialism while the government redistributing 32 billion dollars of our money to farmers is not socialism.

The word is meaningless these days

racist
nazi
sexist
bigot

when extreme people are driving they will use extreme words every single time.

lots of words have their meaning in the last 10 years.

 

[occupied]

Socialism or more accurately,social programs are simply a way of dealing with problems that capitalism cannot or will not solve. It is not inherently good or bad.

That's where we reach the disagreement over the power government should have.

One individual taking money from another without permission or consent and using that money to the exclusion of the owner is called stealing. Adding in a third party collector (government by taxation) does not make it consensual and does not eliminate the underlying theft.

My taxes go for a lot of things a lot more useless and destructive than feeding hungry people, you don't hear me bitching. Besides, feeding hungry people means they will not come for what you have.

 

[whitehall]

We help people when they stumble in a capitalistic society. Why are lefties so afraid of democracy?

 

[occupied]

Socialism or more accurately social programs are simply a way of dealing with problems that capitalism cannot or will not solve. It is not inherently good or bad.

if that were true, why did China allow capitalism to infect their socialist utopia?

China eventually came to the realization that money is power and they needed power outside their borders. Look at it like this: Not one person is suggesting we nationalize the snack food industry. It is more than adequate to the task of curing America's case of the munchies. Our healthcare industry has to be heavily subsidized because it clearly cannot supply care to all Americans because of expense.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

My taxes go for a lot of things a lot more useless and destructive than feeding hungry people

Oh, believe me, I agree. Maybe a little more bitching is in order.

Besides, feeding hungry people means they will not come for what you have.

Yes it does. That is exactly what they are doing. Government is the tool and means of their theft.

Stay with me because I am not arguing for starving the homeless, etc.

I am simply pointing out how quickly the role and power of government gets out of control.

Although it is not "socialism" it is involuntary servitude and tyranny.

Then, when a tax cut is proposed, we get people claiming that the proposed tax cuts are "not paid for" as if all of our money is theirs to spend, and they will kindly give us back what they don't need.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Our healthcare industry has to be heavily subsidized because it clearly cannot supply care to all Americans because of expense.

If everyone was required to pay, the expense would go down quite a bit.

The health care industry (providers) have been spoiled by health insurance and the cost has gone up because there's no incentive to keep costs under control. In fact, cost control is effectively discouraged. Competition among providers over fees is virtually nonexistent. The free market has NOT been allowed to keep the prices under control.

But, at the same time, making it single payer is socialism. That is the effective government takeover of the industry.