If Social Security Had Been In Private Accounts The Stock Market Drop Could Have Been A Disaster

[nat4900]

The ones who support it are definitely thugs.

How are your ulcers???? Still churning in your own bile???
Feel powerless??

 

[bripat9643]

Everything is "here to stay" until it collapses. All you turds believed the USSR was going to bury the United States. How did that work out?

What "turds" believed that about the USSR? SS is easy to save y'know, many ideas out there.

All liberals believed the USSR economic system was superior to the American economic system.

Why would anyone want to "save" a vast Ponzi scheme? All those ideas to save it require an expansion in looting.

No, they didn't, you must be a fucking moron. Oh, you are.

Yes, they did. Can you find a single liberal who predicted the collapse of the USSR before 1989?

Can you find a single liberal that wanted to implement a totalitarian command economy with no democracy?

You all do. You all defend Obama whenever he wipes his ass on the Constitution by issuing an executive order that clearly violates the terms of the document. You all defend those "Black Lives Matter" thugs who hoot for the blood of police officers. You defend liberal campus hooligans who shout down and even assault conservative speakers who appear on campus.

I could go on and on about all the fascist activities liberals engage in.

 

[bripat9643]

Nope, taxes are theft. they don't purchase anything anybody wants any more than being mugged by the local toughs "purchases" anything they have to offer.

Then take up arms and shoot the elderly collecting SS. They robbed you after all. LOL.

Yeah, right, because the only alternative to allowing them to loot us all is to shoot them.

You win the forum "Liberlogic" prize for the month.

Now you've admitted the elderly who use social security are thugs. What is wrong with you?

The ones who support it are definitely thugs.

Well shit, the majority of Americans are thugs.

If Social Security was ever put up to a popular vote, it wouldn't pass.

 

[bripat9643]

The ones who support it are definitely thugs.

How are your ulcers???? Still churning in your own bile???
Feel powerless??

We are all powerless in this fascist tyranny we all suffer under. Gloating about it only makes you look even more despicable.

 

[David_42]

What "turds" believed that about the USSR? SS is easy to save y'know, many ideas out there.

All liberals believed the USSR economic system was superior to the American economic system.

Why would anyone want to "save" a vast Ponzi scheme? All those ideas to save it require an expansion in looting.

No, they didn't, you must be a fucking moron. Oh, you are.

Yes, they did. Can you find a single liberal who predicted the collapse of the USSR before 1989?

Can you find a single liberal that wanted to implement a totalitarian command economy with no democracy?

You all do. You all defend Obama whenever he wipes his ass on the Constitution by issuing an executive order that clearly violates the terms of the document. You all defend those "Black Lives Matter" thugs who hoot for the blood of police officers. You defend liberal campus hooligans who shout down and even assault conservative speakers who appear on campus.

I could go on and on about all the fascist activities liberals engage in.

So all you respond with is a silly misguided rant about the constitution and black lives matter? Where does Obama wipe his ass on the constitution, you hear idiots like trump talking about birthright citizenship and wiping there ass on it, but you're silent. What has Obama done that goes against the constitution? Yeah, cherry pick specific things said by people in BLM and stereotype the whole group, great idea, does that mean I can claim all trump supporters are white racists? Fascist activies? Insult to those who have actually experienced fascism, which you know nothing about.

 

[David_42]

The ones who support it are definitely thugs.

How are your ulcers???? Still churning in your own bile???
Feel powerless??

We are all powerless in this fascist tyranny we all suffer under. Gloating about it only makes you look even more despicable.

Wait, we're suffering under a fascist tyranny? Hold on, going in my signature, this is to good.

 

[bripat9643]

All liberals believed the USSR economic system was superior to the American economic system.

Why would anyone want to "save" a vast Ponzi scheme? All those ideas to save it require an expansion in looting.

No, they didn't, you must be a fucking moron. Oh, you are.

Yes, they did. Can you find a single liberal who predicted the collapse of the USSR before 1989?

Can you find a single liberal that wanted to implement a totalitarian command economy with no democracy?

You all do. You all defend Obama whenever he wipes his ass on the Constitution by issuing an executive order that clearly violates the terms of the document. You all defend those "Black Lives Matter" thugs who hoot for the blood of police officers. You defend liberal campus hooligans who shout down and even assault conservative speakers who appear on campus.

I could go on and on about all the fascist activities liberals engage in.

So all you respond with is a silly misguided rant about the constitution and black lives matter? Where does Obama wipe his ass on the constitution, you hear idiots like trump talking about birthright citizenship and wiping there ass on it, but you're silent. What has Obama done that goes against the constitution? Yeah, cherry pick specific things said by people in BLM and stereotype the whole group, great idea, does that mean I can claim all trump supporters are white racists? Fascist activies? Insult to those who have actually experienced fascism, which you know nothing about.

Obama has wiped his ass on the Constitution numerous times. For instance, when he ordered the EPA to draft regulations on CO2 emissions. The worst example is when he unilaterally granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Changing the immigration laws is clearly a function of Congress, not the Administration.

 

[David_42]

No, they didn't, you must be a fucking moron. Oh, you are.

Yes, they did. Can you find a single liberal who predicted the collapse of the USSR before 1989?

Can you find a single liberal that wanted to implement a totalitarian command economy with no democracy?

You all do. You all defend Obama whenever he wipes his ass on the Constitution by issuing an executive order that clearly violates the terms of the document. You all defend those "Black Lives Matter" thugs who hoot for the blood of police officers. You defend liberal campus hooligans who shout down and even assault conservative speakers who appear on campus.

I could go on and on about all the fascist activities liberals engage in.

So all you respond with is a silly misguided rant about the constitution and black lives matter? Where does Obama wipe his ass on the constitution, you hear idiots like trump talking about birthright citizenship and wiping there ass on it, but you're silent. What has Obama done that goes against the constitution? Yeah, cherry pick specific things said by people in BLM and stereotype the whole group, great idea, does that mean I can claim all trump supporters are white racists? Fascist activies? Insult to those who have actually experienced fascism, which you know nothing about.

Obama has wiped his ass on the Constitution numerous times. For instance, when he ordered the EPA to draft regulations on CO2 emissions. The worst example is when he unilaterally granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Changing the immigration laws is clearly a function of Congress, not the Administration.

Where in the constitution does it prohibit regulations on CO2 emissions? Guess who else gave amnesty to illegal immigrants..
Reagan!

 

[Sun Devil 92]

In the left-wing "future" elderly will protest in the streets and clash with police because Social Security is broke, and the country is bankrupt. Elderly will be forcibly removed from banks where they used to draw their deposited Social Security checks, and huddle around closed government hospitals and pharmacies desperate for treatment and medication. They will line up for trays of free soup on the street, in the cold. They will burn wood, causing smog throughout the cities, because they can't afford gas heating anymore. And ultimately having swallowed the lies of the left, and ended up impoverished, kill themselves....


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Elderly fighting with police.

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About to be removed by police, crying in front of the national bank...

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Closed government hospital....

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Closed government pharmacy....

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Being fed trays of soup out on the street....

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Clouds of smoke above Athens from people burning wood for heat.

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Thousands form a shrine to an elderly pensioner who committed suicide. The suicide sparked day so riots and clashes with police.

Unlike the mythical right-wing "future", this left-wing future is here now.... in Greece.

What you see illustrated above is the future of America, if we follow your left-wing ideology like Greece did.

The sad thing about those photos is that the fools in them probably just voted in a socialist government.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened.

They believed the lies of the leftwing government, protested every time they tried to reform the system, and when the reforms came in 2014, voted in the left wing government, which bucked the reforms..... and ruined the whole country.

These sad sad people.... are getting what they voted for. It's terrible to see people harm themselves... but what can you do.

Yeah, that's what happens when tax evasion happens on a mass scale..

Yeah. And why do you have tax evasion on a mass scale? Because taxes are too high.

The BBC interviewed people, and people can't live on wages where 50% to 60% of their income is taxed away.

Yeah, if you increase taxes, people stop paying them. We've been warning about that forever. Greece is proof of our claim. You increase taxes, and people change how they live relative to the taxes.

For a company to pay an employee $20,000, it would cost the company $25,600, $5,600 in Pension taxes, for the employee to get $12,800 in pay after taxes. And that's the low end tax. The high end of tax 58%.

When government earns more money than you do from working... yeah people evade taxes... what a shock. We're not shocked. We've seen this a million times.

The tax and spend plan, doesn't work. At some point people refuse to pay taxes. This is why socialism always fails.

Explain the large number of countries with progressive taxation that are doing amazingly well. Yeah, your statement about people not paying them fails, if that were true, we would have collapsed in the 50's. Greece is not proof of your claim, we could just say the great depression is proof that capitalism fails, but that's dishonest. We need a mix of both socialistic policies and capitalism, even emerging countries know this, and the IMF has done studies showing the necessity of this. The pension system in greece was bad, but the people wanted to keep it, democracy works I guess. Using that to stereotype all socialist ideas is dishonest and hilarious. Socialism always fails? Explains why all countries on earth mix socialistic policies with capitalism.

Please point to the countries you think are doing amazingly well.

I am not saying that they are not....I'd just like to see the list.

And you can also describe, in terms of measurable parameters, what "amazingly well" means.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Yes, they did. Can you find a single liberal who predicted the collapse of the USSR before 1989?

Can you find a single liberal that wanted to implement a totalitarian command economy with no democracy?

You all do. You all defend Obama whenever he wipes his ass on the Constitution by issuing an executive order that clearly violates the terms of the document. You all defend those "Black Lives Matter" thugs who hoot for the blood of police officers. You defend liberal campus hooligans who shout down and even assault conservative speakers who appear on campus.

I could go on and on about all the fascist activities liberals engage in.

So all you respond with is a silly misguided rant about the constitution and black lives matter? Where does Obama wipe his ass on the constitution, you hear idiots like trump talking about birthright citizenship and wiping there ass on it, but you're silent. What has Obama done that goes against the constitution? Yeah, cherry pick specific things said by people in BLM and stereotype the whole group, great idea, does that mean I can claim all trump supporters are white racists? Fascist activies? Insult to those who have actually experienced fascism, which you know nothing about.

Obama has wiped his ass on the Constitution numerous times. For instance, when he ordered the EPA to draft regulations on CO2 emissions. The worst example is when he unilaterally granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Changing the immigration laws is clearly a function of Congress, not the Administration.

Where in the constitution does it prohibit regulations on CO2 emissions? Guess who else gave amnesty to illegal immigrants..
Reagan!

Ooooops

The two wrongs make a right argument.

 

[nat4900]

Changing the immigration laws is clearly a function of Congress, not the Administration.

Idiot.........So, how did the republican-led congress respond after Obama told them to act and draft legislation on immigration?????

Come on, nitwit......Answer THAT.....

(Glad that your ulcers are bothering you.) LOL

 

[bripat9643]

Changing the immigration laws is clearly a function of Congress, not the Administration.

Idiot.........So, how did the republican-led congress respond after Obama told them to act and draft legislation on immigration?????

Come on, nitwit......Answer THAT.....

(Glad that your ulcers are bothering you.) LOL

Where does the Constitution say that Congress declining to comply with the President's demands gives him license to write laws without their consent?

It's unbelievable what ignoramuses some people are when it comes to the Constitution. They think if Obama stamps his foot, then he's entitled to do whatever he wants.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Where does the Constitution say that Congress declining to comply with the President's demands gives him license to write laws without their consent?

It's unbelievable what ignoramuses some people are when it comes to the Constitution. They think if Obama stamps his foot, then he's entitled to do whatever he wants.

Leftists desire a dictator, and operate as if Obama were one.

 

[bripat9643]

Where does the Constitution say that Congress declining to comply with the President's demands gives him license to write laws without their consent?

It's unbelievable what ignoramuses some people are when it comes to the Constitution. They think if Obama stamps his foot, then he's entitled to do whatever he wants.

Leftists desire a dictator, and operate as if Obama were one.

I'm beginning to understand that NAT is afflicted with a special brand of stupid. He actually believes that Obama is authorized to change standing law by issuing executive orders.

 

[nat4900]

Please point to the countries you think are doing amazingly well.

I am not saying that they are not....I'd just like to see the list.

And you can also describe, in terms of measurable parameters, what "amazingly well" means.

Actually you should do your own work....if you dare.

No doubt the US has the largest GDP than any other country on the planet......But you'd be surprised as to what countries have better standards of living when it comes to LONGEVITY, WORK-LIFE, MORBIDITY, and HAPPINESS.

 

[bripat9643]

Please point to the countries you think are doing amazingly well.

I am not saying that they are not....I'd just like to see the list.

And you can also describe, in terms of measurable parameters, what "amazingly well" means.

Actually you should do your own work....if you dare.

No doubt the US has the largest GDP than any other country on the planet......But you'd be surprised as to what countries have better standards of living when it comes to LONGEVITY, WORK-LIFE, MORBIDITY, and HAPPINESS.

"Happiness" is a bullshit metric that can't be measured objectively. That's why commies like you are so fond of citing it. Longevity also doesn't necessary indicate how wealthy a country is. In fact, in the case of the United States, longevity is harmed by our wealth because we have all gotten so incredibly fat. "Work Life" just means how many days off you have every year. That doesn't do you much good if you have no money to go anywhere. "Morbidity" is just another name for "longevity."

So all your metrics don't prove jack squat.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Please point to the countries you think are doing amazingly well.

I am not saying that they are not....I'd just like to see the list.

And you can also describe, in terms of measurable parameters, what "amazingly well" means.

Actually you should do your own work....if you dare.

No doubt the US has the largest GDP than any other country on the planet......But you'd be surprised as to what countries have better standards of living when it comes to LONGEVITY, WORK-LIFE, MORBIDITY, and HAPPINESS.

I've done my homework, moron.

These claims are always backed with what ?

Metrics. Let's see them.

Then we can see how the relate to the progressive tax system and what social insurance has to do with it.

Let me know when you've got the data....then the fun begins.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Please point to the countries you think are doing amazingly well.

I am not saying that they are not....I'd just like to see the list.

And you can also describe, in terms of measurable parameters, what "amazingly well" means.

Actually you should do your own work....if you dare.

No doubt the US has the largest GDP than any other country on the planet......But you'd be surprised as to what countries have better standards of living when it comes to LONGEVITY, WORK-LIFE, MORBIDITY, and HAPPINESS.

"Happiness" is a bullshit metric that can't be measured objectively. That's why commies like you are so fond of citing it. Longevity also doesn't necessary indicate how wealthy a country is. In fact, in the case of the United States, longevity is harmed by our wealth because we have all gotten so incredibly fat. "Work Life" just means how many days off you have every year. That doesn't do you much good if you have no money to go anywhere. "Morbidity" is just another name for "longevity."

So all your metrics don't prove jack squat.

Additionally, many of these countries are as big as Ohio. How do you compare them to the United States ?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually you should do your own work....if you dare.

No doubt the US has the largest GDP than any other country on the planet......But you'd be surprised as to what countries have better standards of living when it comes to LONGEVITY, WORK-LIFE, MORBIDITY, and HAPPINESS.

And Squalizlfartzle, the peoples republics live on $3500 a year, but they have Squalizlfartzle WAY in excess of running dog Americans. What is worth more, decent food and more than a 100 foot shelter for a family of 6, or Squalizlfartzle? Clearly Squalizlfartzle is THE indicator of standard of living!

There is a reason that rational people pay you no mind...

 

[nat4900]

I've done my homework, moron.

These claims are always backed with what ?

Metrics. Let's see them.

Then we can see how the relate to the progressive tax system and what social insurance has to do with it.

Let me know when you've got the data....then the fun begins.

Well, nitwit.....since you've ALREADY done "your homework"....lets see YOUR data....LOL