If Republicans lose the 2012 Presidential election, which direction will the GOP go?

[Salt Jones]

The GOP hasn't moved to the right. Both presidents Bush were moderates. John McCain is a moderate. It only seems that way because the democrat party has moved so far left that it is off the charts. Who would have thought that a democrat president would have hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to any job? Who would have thought that someone who worked in a cabinet post would have told kids that her personal hero was Chairman Mao? Who would have thought that the president would have referred to the US Chamber of commerce as a sinister tool of the republican party or that he would praise the anti-capitalist OWS rabble? The only reason the Tea Party was formed was to push the republican party out of moderateville and that doesn't seem to be working all that well.

Keep thinking that way, oblivion is only a few years away.

 

[Avatar4321]

I love this thread. It shows the revisionist history that is causing the republicans to fade away. It's not if they lose, but when they lose. This is fun to watch.

You're right. It's when we lose. Because no matter what party we are in, our party is going to lose at some point.

Im predicting no sooner than 2020

 

[Full-Auto]

the Republicans have moved further right?

the Democrat party has moved so far left they should rename themselves the Socialist-Communist party of the United States.

It's unfortunate to see the Democrat party of old die.

The Republican Elites were moving into thier old spot (as nature abhors a vacuum), until the TEA Party folks came along and foiled thier plans at the behest of the American people...

Speaking of the tea party. Democrats have attacked them via the IRS.

 

[Avatar4321]

the Republicans have moved further right?

the Democrat party has moved so far left they should rename themselves the Socialist-Communist party of the United States.

It's unfortunate to see the Democrat party of old die.

The Republican Elites were moving into thier old spot (as nature abhors a vacuum), until the TEA Party folks came along and foiled thier plans at the behest of the American people...

Speaking of the tea party. Democrats have attacked them via the IRS.

Of course they would. They are scared of them. Peaceful protesting for limited government vs occupies violence for revolution.

 

[The T]

the Republicans have moved further right?

the Democrat party has moved so far left they should rename themselves the Socialist-Communist party of the United States.

It's unfortunate to see the Democrat party of old die.

The Republican Elites were moving into thier old spot (as nature abhors a vacuum), until the TEA Party folks came along and foiled thier plans at the behest of the American people...

Speaking of the tea party. Democrats have attacked them via the IRS.

Naturally...Now why not attack the OWS...Oh...that's right...they aren't working...they are only squatting on property that doesn't belong to them.

Out of the IRS' jusridiction and they aren't paying taxes anyway...

Blood, turnips...rocks...you know the drill...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So, regardless of who ends up winning the GOP nomination, if the Republicans lose the general election to President Obama, which direction will the GOP ultimately go? Will they move closer to the center because they lost to President Obama? Or will they move further to the right?

This assumes a rational though process where there is none. A significant number of republicans will adhere blindly to rightist dogma, regardless how many times they lose, regardless how many times that dogma is rejected by a majority of the American people.

Further to the Constitution because, of course, Obama will be taking us further from it.

Nonsense.

We’re ‘at’ the Constitution right now; we’ve neither ‘moved away’ from it nor is there a ‘need’ to ‘move closer to it.’

The Constitution is functioning now exactly as intended, in the context of its case law, as determined by the courts.

That you or anyone else believes these rulings over the decades to be ‘wrong’ is opinion only, and consequently irrelevant.

 

[The T]

The GOP hasn't moved to the right. Both presidents Bush were moderates. John McCain is a moderate. It only seems that way because the democrat party has moved so far left that it is off the charts. Who would have thought that a democrat president would have hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to any job? Who would have thought that someone who worked in a cabinet post would have told kids that her personal hero was Chairman Mao? Who would have thought that the president would have referred to the US Chamber of commerce as a sinister tool of the republican party or that he would praise the anti-capitalist OWS rabble? The only reason the Tea Party was formed was to push the republican party out of moderateville and that doesn't seem to be working all that well.

Keep thinking that way, oblivion is only a few years away.

And uneducated idiots like YOU will help bring it about.

Congrats asshole.

 

[Avatar4321]

So, regardless of who ends up winning the GOP nomination, if the Republicans lose the general election to President Obama, which direction will the GOP ultimately go? Will they move closer to the center because they lost to President Obama? Or will they move further to the right?

This assumes a rational though process where there is none. A significant number of republicans will adhere blindly to rightist dogma, regardless how many times they lose, regardless how many times that dogma is rejected by a majority of the American people.

Further to the Constitution because, of course, Obama will be taking us further from it.

Nonsense.

We’re ‘at’ the Constitution right now; we’ve neither ‘moved away’ from it nor is there a ‘need’ to ‘move closer to it.’

The Constitution is functioning now exactly as intended, in the context of its case law, as determined by the courts.

That you or anyone else believes these rulings over the decades to be ‘wrong’ is opinion only, and consequently irrelevant.

I suggest reading the Constitution sometime.

 

[The T]

So, regardless of who ends up winning the GOP nomination, if the Republicans lose the general election to President Obama, which direction will the GOP ultimately go? Will they move closer to the center because they lost to President Obama? Or will they move further to the right?

This assumes a rational though process where there is none. A significant number of republicans will adhere blindly to rightist dogma, regardless how many times they lose, regardless how many times that dogma is rejected by a majority of the American people.

Further to the Constitution because, of course, Obama will be taking us further from it.

Nonsense.

We’re ‘at’ the Constitution right now; we’ve neither ‘moved away’ from it nor is there a ‘need’ to ‘move closer to it.’

The Constitution is functioning now exactly as intended, in the context of its case law, as determined by the courts.

That you or anyone else believes these rulings over the decades to be ‘wrong’ is opinion only, and consequently irrelevant.

I suggest reading the Constitution sometime.

But he HAS...His Avie says he did.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The GOP hasn't moved to the right. Both presidents Bush were moderates. John McCain is a moderate. It only seems that way because the democrat party has moved so far left that it is off the charts. Who would have thought that a democrat president would have hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to any job? Who would have thought that someone who worked in a cabinet post would have told kids that her personal hero was Chairman Mao? Who would have thought that the president would have referred to the US Chamber of commerce as a sinister tool of the republican party or that he would praise the anti-capitalist OWS rabble? The only reason the Tea Party was formed was to push the republican party out of moderateville and that doesn't seem to be working all that well.

Keep thinking that way, oblivion is only a few years away.

No, Democrat oblivion is right around the corner.. driven by this obsession with gay Marriage, abortion, birth control, telling people what to feed their children, what to think, what to say, what to eat, $16,000,000,000,000 debt, massive deficits, worthless USD, 40,000,000+ unemployed, 1/6 of Americans on public assistance, crumbling middle east, inflation, $4+ gasoline, no energy policy, no drilling, no jobs, etc.

Yeah, run on that record bitch!

 

[Immanuel]

The GOP hasn't moved to the right. Both presidents Bush were moderates. John McCain is a moderate. It only seems that way because the democrat party has moved so far left that it is off the charts. Who would have thought that a democrat president would have hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to any job? Who would have thought that someone who worked in a cabinet post would have told kids that her personal hero was Chairman Mao? Who would have thought that the president would have referred to the US Chamber of commerce as a sinister tool of the republican party or that he would praise the anti-capitalist OWS rabble? The only reason the Tea Party was formed was to push the republican party out of moderateville and that doesn't seem to be working all that well.

The only problem I have with your statement is that Bush and McCain weren't moderates and they sure as hell weren't conservative.

If, and I am expecting they will, the GOP loses in November. They will move even farther left trying their damnedest to catch up with the Party of the Jackass.

Immie

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The GOP hasn't moved to the right. Both presidents Bush were moderates. John McCain is a moderate. It only seems that way because the democrat party has moved so far left that it is off the charts. Who would have thought that a democrat president would have hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to any job? Who would have thought that someone who worked in a cabinet post would have told kids that her personal hero was Chairman Mao? Who would have thought that the president would have referred to the US Chamber of commerce as a sinister tool of the republican party or that he would praise the anti-capitalist OWS rabble? The only reason the Tea Party was formed was to push the republican party out of moderateville and that doesn't seem to be working all that well.

The only problem I have with your statement is that Bush and McCain weren't moderates and they sure as hell weren't conservative.

If, and I am expecting they will, the GOP loses in November. They will move even farther left trying their damnedest to catch up with the Party of the Jackass.

Immie

I disagree, I think they will indeed win, barring a MAJOR comeback in th economy.. which most predictions say simply is not going to happen. Couple that with a economy on the skids driven by massive inflation driven by $5+ gas by November..

But hey, for the sake of argument, let;s say they lose.. I think you will see an even bigger push to the right by the Tea party... which the GOP will be inclined to heed.

 

[Salt Jones]

The GOP hasn't moved to the right. Both presidents Bush were moderates. John McCain is a moderate. It only seems that way because the democrat party has moved so far left that it is off the charts. Who would have thought that a democrat president would have hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to any job? Who would have thought that someone who worked in a cabinet post would have told kids that her personal hero was Chairman Mao? Who would have thought that the president would have referred to the US Chamber of commerce as a sinister tool of the republican party or that he would praise the anti-capitalist OWS rabble? The only reason the Tea Party was formed was to push the republican party out of moderateville and that doesn't seem to be working all that well.

Keep thinking that way, oblivion is only a few years away.

And uneducated idiots like YOU will help bring it about.

Congrats asshole.

I meant oblivion for the republican party, you know, the topic of this thread. You are so scared that you can't follow the thread.

 

[rdean]

Hopefully away.

Just go away.

 

[Flopper]

As many people have noted, the GOP has been consistently moving further and further to the right over the last 30 years. The election of President Obama continued that trend as the 2010 midterms made clear.

During the current 2012 GOP primary season, candidates like Bachmann and Santorum routinely engaged in some pretty strident rhetoric while also bringing up the social issues continuously despite the fact that virtually everyone thought that economic issues would far and away be the focus of the election.

And finally, the primary has come down to Romney and changing conservative 'not Romney' candidates.

So, regardless of who ends up winning the GOP nomination, if the Republicans lose the general election to President Obama, which direction will the GOP ultimately go? Will they move closer to the center because they lost to President Obama? Or will they move further to the right?

Regardless of the outcome of the election, I don't see Republicans moving away from the far right.

IMHO, Republican ideology is a combination of a Neocon view of the world, fiscal and social conservatism, and most important a desire to return to a time when things were better. This ideology is becoming more and more entangled with religious beliefs. People that have strong ideological beliefs don't abandon them quick. The lost of an election is not going to change their beliefs.

 

[sealybobo]

The GOP will just break the record Mitch McConnell already holds for filabusters.

 

[Avatar4321]

Hopefully away.

Just go away.

No one is forcing you to stay around us.

 

[Immanuel]

The GOP hasn't moved to the right. Both presidents Bush were moderates. John McCain is a moderate. It only seems that way because the democrat party has moved so far left that it is off the charts. Who would have thought that a democrat president would have hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to any job? Who would have thought that someone who worked in a cabinet post would have told kids that her personal hero was Chairman Mao? Who would have thought that the president would have referred to the US Chamber of commerce as a sinister tool of the republican party or that he would praise the anti-capitalist OWS rabble? The only reason the Tea Party was formed was to push the republican party out of moderateville and that doesn't seem to be working all that well.

The only problem I have with your statement is that Bush and McCain weren't moderates and they sure as hell weren't conservative.

If, and I am expecting they will, the GOP loses in November. They will move even farther left trying their damnedest to catch up with the Party of the Jackass.

Immie

I disagree, I think they will indeed win, barring a MAJOR comeback in th economy.. which most predictions say simply is not going to happen. Couple that with a economy on the skids driven by massive inflation driven by $5+ gas by November..

But hey, for the sake of argument, let;s say they lose.. I think you will see an even bigger push to the right by the Tea party... which the GOP will be inclined to heed.

Well, just call me an eternal pessimist.

I will not vote for any republican because I believe the party is corrupt and I think that the only way to tell them that is for as many of us who will to vote third party, but better a Republican win than the corrupt man who sits in the Oval Office today.

I would hope that if enough of us continued to vote third party both parties would begin to get the message.

Immie

 

[Full-Auto]

The GOP will just break the record Mitch McConnell already holds for filabusters.

Sweet

That is how our system was designed. Gridlock when not in agreement.

 

[The T]

The GOP will just break the record Mitch McConnell already holds for filabusters.

Sweet

That is how our system was designed. Gridlock when not in agreement.

Precisely. System was designed to amend the Constitution...not circumvent it.