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yeah, i should have capitalized the IF obama loses....It's always been pretty clear to me that if Obama loses this election that the Obamabots will blame Hillary for it.
That's just sad, IMO. They'll have no one to blame but themselves and Obama.
But Care, I think you are jumping the gun.
Obama DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH VOTES to win the primary UNTIL the last state's primary, got it?
She was NOT LOSING BIGTIME, Obama was the one that was losing ground against her thae last 6-8 weeks of the race.....
Why do you keep saying she should have dropped out when Obama did not have enough delegates to even win the primary? That's ridiculous...absolutely ridiculous....
Did you think Ted Kennedy should have dropped out of his primary run? What is this crap with you guys wanting Obama to win the primary through DEFAULT and not by winning it through votes?
Sheesh, what a TOTAL DISREGARD for Democracy and the citizen's votes....
Well, I am going to give it all to you.
The difference between Obama and Hillary is that Obama has ONLY been a Senator for 3yrs. Half of that time is spent on the campaign trail.
Hillary has been a New York Senator for 7 yrs. and she actually worked, during that 7 yrs.
Obama has no major legislative experience to speak of.
Voted "present" 132 times during legislative hearings.
A flip-flopper. Backed the DC ban on handguns when the court ruled that it was "unconstitutional". Then when the court reversed its decision, he sided with the courts.
Flip-flop again, on the FISA Bill. He voted for it, before he was against it.
Changes the time-frame, regarding bringing the troops home, more often than he changes his underwear.
Associated himself with a well known unrepentant terrrorist - William Ayers.
Sat in the Rev. Wright's church for 20 years and claimed that he found out with the rest of America, that the Reverend spewed hate from the pulpit.
Will raise taxes for everyone, earning more than $42,000 annually.
His health-care plan sucks. So is his foreign policy plan.
He is thin-skinned and cannot go up against the attacks of the Republican attack machine.
Are those enough reasons?
I said policy not personality and running campaign wise. You gave me all personality and running campaign issues.
Oh saying that he will raise taxes for everyone, his health care plan sucks as well as his foreign policy plan, and what you say are flip flops.
Really? Like Hillary Clinton, John McCain, or Sarah Palin have NEVER flip flopped?
You are right. Obama "limped" to the nomination. He lost the last 6-7 primaries.
The Superdelegates were the ones, that pushed him over the top.
I hope that they are happy now.
You say he lost the last 6-7 primaries?
Barack Obama Wins Eight Primary Contests In A Row
The last 6-7 primaries he lost? Really?
Results of the 2008 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Doesn't look it to me.
I gave you both or did you not read it?
Will raise taxes for everyone, earning more than $42,000 annually
Well if it is not the actual number. It is damn close.
I read it.
So why does his health care and foreign policy suck?
FactCheck.org: More Tax Deceptions
Wrong.
You look it up and read it. Then maybe you will be convinced that he is a poor candidate.
I gave you my reasons why I think that he is a poor candidate, and that will suffice.
The difference between Obama and Hillary is that Obama has ONLY been a Senator for 3yrs. Half of that time is spent on the campaign trail.
Hillary has been a New York Senator for 7 yrs. and she actually worked, during that 7 yrs.
Obama has no major legislative experience to speak of.
Voted "present" 132 times during legislative hearings.
A flip-flopper. Backed the DC ban on handguns when the court ruled that it was "unconstitutional". Then when the court reversed its decision, he sided with the courts.
Flip-flop again, on the FISA Bill. He voted for it, before he was against it.
Changes the time-frame, regarding bringing the troops home, more often than he changes his underwear.
Associated himself with a well known unrepentant terrrorist - William Ayers.
Sat in the Rev. Wright's church for 20 years and claimed that he found out with the rest of America, that the Reverend spewed hate from the pulpit.
Will raise taxes for everyone, earning more than $42,000 annually.
Go all the way down, he seemed to be pretty even
Last 7 primaries going back to NC:
NC: Obama
WV: Hillary
KY: Hillary
Oregon: Obama
Puerto Rico: Hillary
Montana: Obama
SD: Hillary
Doing basic math, that's 4 for Hillary, 3 for Obama
So he didn't lose the last 6-7.
What am I now? A mythbuster for this thread?
Myth after Myth you throw out is proven wrong by me.
This is silly. Hillary didn't damage the Democratic party. And the more you guys keep pretending she did, the weaker you make Obama look.
Why would you want to make Obama look weak? Save your recriminations until after the election.
Obama is running against McCain. If you actually want him to win, you'll keep that in mind.
Congrats! Hillary is out of the race. But in the meantime, back at the farm, your candidate is loosing the election against John McCain.
All of the factcheck.org in the world, cannot dispute that.
None of that seems to be about Foreign Policy or Healthcare. I'll be willing to address the rest of that soon enough.
I think your throwing out bullshit and calling it facts
And you cannot accept the truth that your candidate is a poor choice and he is loosing. Well learn to accept it!
You cannot argue with the truth, but I see that your are trying.
I can accept my candidate's flaws, you can't accept that Hillary lost fairly.
I'm the one telling the truth, backing up my facts. Your throwing out bullshit like it's facts.
Your like a used car salesman telling me that a piece of junk car from the 80's is a brand new Mercedes. You can repeat it all you like, won't make it true.
And the fact is, John McCain is polling at 50% and Obama is at 47%
Denial would get you nowhere. But then again, some people learn the hard way. You seem to be one of them.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NOBAMA EVER!!!!!!!!!!
I have seen a few threads on various boards that question the downspiral of Obama's campaign and are trying to peg, exactly what happened.
The question is, if the Obama campaign had picked Hillary as the vp candidate, would he be in this spiral downward in polls now?
And if the answer is no, then who do you think is to blame for this decision of his?
1.His followers, for insisting that Hillary not be picked?
2.His campaign managers?
3.Or him?
4. Or a combination of two or more of the above.
And why do you think such, once you picked one...?
