If Obama Is A "socialist"....

Socialism only ends up with massive death and economic ruin. You honestly think it's not a bad thing?
 
.....and, that's such a bad thing....how do Republicans get-away with being such enthusiastic-beneficiaries?

:eusa_eh:

Take a look at the red states. You will find that most of them are federal welfare states, receiving more back from the fed than they pay in.

Take away the federal tit they are sucking and they would likely collapse
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Yeah.. because we have all kinds of room for military bases in high income and tax cities like Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago.... and the federal interstate miles in Kansas are less than what they are in Connecticut....
Yes, there are problems in the pet projects many representatives get for their states... but don't just paint this as a blanket picture

Unless, that is, you wish to use the same argument for individuals who pay no income taxes that are gaining benefit from entitlements
 
She has a point but at the same time, why not take the low hanging fruit, a conservative would have to live like Daniel Boone not to be "hypocritical" in the big government era where everything from holes in Swiss Cheese on is regulated and micro managed by government intervention.

Personally, I'd tell DC to "get bent" but then ;like Ron Paul; I'd probably get about 2% of the vote in the process so my thoughts are to fight it but don't look a dense jackass in the mouth either , take what your being forced to pay for weather you like it or not.
 
If Obama is a socialist.... If socialism is a system that the left wing want to replace the Constitution, then we should have an open and honest debate. Run as socialist, be open about shredding the documents that founded the nation. Make the argument and let the people decide. Easy
 
Socialism only ends up with massive death and economic ruin. You honestly think it's not a bad thing?

BUT WAIT!!! Capitalism ends up in massive deaths & economic ruin. Do you think capitalism is a "bad thing?" :eusa_whistle:
 
Socialism only ends up with massive death and economic ruin. You honestly think it's not a bad thing?

And lassiez faire ends up in fascist oligarchs, leading to massive death and economic ruin of everyone other than the power elite. Dogmatic ideologues make me want to barf. Lucky for us, our President understands that the only way a modern society can prosper is using a mixed model economic system. Sadly, too many right wingers want to get rid of any socialism in our country, including public education, because their Little Red Book of Ayn Rand tells them to.

Republican democracy might suck, but it sure sucks less than those polarities spouted by extremists.
 
And a bunch of bullshit winger links from the troll.. AGAIN

Truth cuts cons like a knife. LOL!! Hows that bullshit Dave doing? Surely you can refute the message instead of attacking the messenger? NO, well that is so sad...........
 
.....and, that's such a bad thing....how do Republicans get-away with being such enthusiastic-beneficiaries?

:eusa_eh:

here's the difference asswipe. pay attention now fuctard for the one millionth time.. try to soak this up,, the people on social security and medicare have paid into the system their entire lives, they were'nt asked if they wanted to pay into the system they were told they would pay into the system and then when they reached old age they would receive social security and medicare. you don't even get to choose about the medicare on the day of your 65th birthday you are enrolled in medicare whether or not you want to be.. now here it comes; you fucking ready dimbulb???? obie wan wants to take wealth away from those who have earned it and give it to ass sitters oners.
 
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Socialism only ends up with massive death and economic ruin. You honestly think it's not a bad thing?

And lassiez faire ends up in fascist oligarchs, leading to massive death and economic ruin of everyone other than the power elite. Dogmatic ideologues make me want to barf. Lucky for us, our President understands that the only way a modern society can prosper is using a mixed model economic system. Sadly, too many right wingers want to get rid of any socialism in our country, including public education, because their Little Red Book of Ayn Rand tells them to.

Republican democracy might suck, but it sure sucks less than those polarities spouted by extremists.

We have not had d lassiez faire in generations, google it, there were more regulations enacted during Bush and Co's era than at any time since Nixon's Administration yet all I hear is free markets getting blamed and more regs needed, most here could not give me 5 regulations off the top of their head yet thinks the hundreds of thousands on the books isn't sufficient.
 
.....and, that's such a bad thing....how do Republicans get-away with being such enthusiastic-beneficiaries?

:eusa_eh:

Take a look at the red states. You will find that most of them are federal welfare states, receiving more back from the fed than they pay in.

Take away the federal tit they are sucking and they would likely collapse
.

Yeah.. because we have all kinds of room for military bases in high income and tax cities like Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago.... and the federal interstate miles in Kansas are less than what they are in Connecticut....
Yes, there are problems in the pet projects many representatives get for their states... but don't just paint this as a blanket picture

Unless, that is, you wish to use the same argument for individuals who pay no income taxes that are gaining benefit from entitlements

Oh yes, go for it Dave!!!! What is this? EXXON MOBILE pays NO TAXES in 2009. Really? That about covers your arguments in bullshit, huh Dave?

Exxon Mobil paid no federal income tax in 2009 Climate Progress
 
And a bunch of bullshit winger links from the troll.. AGAIN

Truth cuts cons like a knife. LOL!! Hows that bullshit Dave doing? Surely you can refute the message instead of attacking the messenger? NO, well that is so sad...........
no... Winger opinions from Maddow and winger sites don't cut like a knife... they're about as laughable as a mugger trying to hold you up with a plastic spork
 
.....and, that's such a bad thing....how do Republicans get-away with being such enthusiastic-beneficiaries?

:eusa_eh:

here's the difference asswipe. pay attention now fuctard for the one millionth time.. try to soak this up,, the people on social security and medicare have paid into the system their entire lives, they were'nt asked if they wanted to pay into the system they were told they would pay into the system and then when they reached old age they would receive social security and medicare. you don't even get to choose about the medicare on the day of your 65th birthday you are enrolled in medicare whether or not you want to be.. now here it comes; you fucking ready dimbulb???? obie wan wants to take wealth away from those who have earned it and give it to ass sitters oners.

Getting forced upon the reservation so to speak and then get called a hypocrite for having to become a beneficiary and for that we're called hypocrites.
 
Take a look at the red states. You will find that most of them are federal welfare states, receiving more back from the fed than they pay in.

Take away the federal tit they are sucking and they would likely collapse
.

Yeah.. because we have all kinds of room for military bases in high income and tax cities like Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago.... and the federal interstate miles in Kansas are less than what they are in Connecticut....
Yes, there are problems in the pet projects many representatives get for their states... but don't just paint this as a blanket picture

Unless, that is, you wish to use the same argument for individuals who pay no income taxes that are gaining benefit from entitlements

Oh yes, go for it Dave!!!! What is this? EXXON MOBILE pays NO TAXES in 2009. Really? That about covers your arguments in bullshit, huh Dave?

Exxon Mobil paid no federal income tax in 2009 Climate Progress

I recall reading a book by Howard Jarvis in the 70's that talked about this, how there were hundreds of hidden taxes on a simple loaf of brad, how insurance costs GM more each year than the materials that cars were built from and so much more, that's the fault of government, not capitalism, we went through Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr. and now half way through Obama and corporations still employ thousands of corporate attorneys,lobbyists and accountants to keep from paying taxes.
 
Take a look at the red states. You will find that most of them are federal welfare states, receiving more back from the fed than they pay in.

Take away the federal tit they are sucking and they would likely collapse
.

Yeah.. because we have all kinds of room for military bases in high income and tax cities like Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago.... and the federal interstate miles in Kansas are less than what they are in Connecticut....
Yes, there are problems in the pet projects many representatives get for their states... but don't just paint this as a blanket picture

Unless, that is, you wish to use the same argument for individuals who pay no income taxes that are gaining benefit from entitlements

Oh yes, go for it Dave!!!! What is this? EXXON MOBILE pays NO TAXES in 2009. Really? That about covers your arguments in bullshit, huh Dave?

Exxon Mobil paid no federal income tax in 2009 Climate Progress

And now you cite winger sites too... figures

Industry taxes
XOM - Exxon Mobil Corp Financial Results - CNNMoney.com

Stop believing all your hype based winger sites, and you might actually start to learn something
 

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