nt250
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- Jun 2, 2006
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It takes WAY more of an open mind to believe in God than it does not to..
I agree. Your mind is so open your brain fell out.
Hey, you asked for that one. :bj2:
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It takes WAY more of an open mind to believe in God than it does not to..
The first thing you would have to explain is how you expect HER to be a "man" about anything? Or is THAT all relative to you too?
It's good to realize that 'early' about krammer. Save yourself some aggrivation.
To understand this hellish deviant, you have to reduce yourself to the mindset of thinking it's OK to fuck your daughter.
Again, you are trying to compare and contract the messenger with the message. You do not have to understand me to understand my message. The topic/question about weather or not incest should be allowed is different from the topic/question about weather or not Islam is a relatively peaceful religion. That is too complicated a concept for you to grasp, isnt it?
There is nothing moderate about extreme Islam and addressing it as anything other than extreme is addressing it as something it is not.
You also cannot label Muslims who do not commit murder "moderates" simply because they are not terrorists and have as of yet committed no crime. Their religion is anything but moderate. That too is addressing Islam as something it is not.
The bottom line is, what they want for the world is not in the best interest of the world, nor of Mankind period. So long as they choose to use their current methodology attempting to force the rest of the world into subjugation, they're the bad guys and we aren't. And people like you who can't differentiate between the two don't matter much anyway. You'll just go along with whatever the winner tells you to do. In THAT regard only, it would be justice for you that THEY win.
There is no hope for this world because the concept of right and wrong is lost to too many people. They sit back in their safe houses with their internet access and they see evil everywhere their like minded intellectual midgets tell them to look. And they look no further.
come up to the USMB reunion in VC and I will show you what I think about your seducing your daughter as being okay...get the drift...perv...albeit I am getting older...I have no doubt in my mind that I can kick your perverted ass!
LOL - Does might make right now? Lets erase the rule of law and use rule by the sword. Have you given up on intelligent debate and resorted to threats and attempts at intimidation. :rotflmao:
There is no hope for this world because the concept of right and wrong is lost to too many people. They sit back in their safe houses with their internet access and they see evil everywhere their like minded intellectual midgets tell them to look. And they look no further.
There are understood absolutes in math, logic, hard science and in facts. In those cases, statements are universally understood to be completely right or wrong true or false without exception or clarification needed. There are few, if any, absolutes in other areas such as the philosophical area of ethics. Yet, if you fine tune a should statement with specific details, then you can probably create an absolute. Without such detail, it is relatively easy for me to show examples in which even the previous advocate does not so readily accept a statement previously thought to be an absolute.
There are understood absolutes in math, logic, hard science and in facts. In those cases, statements are universally understood to be completely right or wrong true or false without exception or clarification needed. There are few, if any, absolutes in other areas such as the philosophical area of ethics. Yet, if you fine tune a should statement with specific details, then you can probably create an absolute. Without such detail, it is relatively easy for me to show examples in which even the previous advocate does not so readily accept a statement previously thought to be an absolute.
Is murder, defiend merely as the killing of another human being always wrong. What about the case of euthanasia in which an elderly but same person wants you to kill him. What if you had a chance to kill Hitler while he was ruling nazi Germany but was no threat to you. There are almost always exceptions to consider.
Give me one exception that says shooting a little kid in the back as they run for their lives is not wrong (Beslan).
Give me one exception that says an adult man boarding an airplane with the sole purpose of killing everyone on board, and as many people on the ground as he can, can see little kids and babies, and carry out his plan anyway is not wrong (9/11).
Give me one exception that says shooting children for taking candy from Amerian GI's (Iraq) is not wrong.
Give me one exception that says targeting first responders to a previous suicide bombing (Israel) is not wrong.
Give me one exception that says blowing people up for having a good time at a nightclub (Bali) is not wrong.
Give me one exception for blowing people up on a bus or a train (Spain, London) is not wrong.
Give me one exception for targeting a mosque at the height of Friday prayers when you are sure to kill the most people (too many times to mention) is not wrong.
Isn't the fact that Muslims are the ONLY people who deliberately target mosques enough of a clue for any of you to understand what Islam is and what it's goals are?
If you're just trying to aggravate yourself with a morally bankrupt, relativist and dishonest literalist, you've picked the right guy. Reality is a concept beyond his ability to comprehend.
Give me one exception that says shooting a little kid in the back as they run for their lives is not wrong (Beslan).
Give me one exception that says an adult man boarding an airplane with the sole purpose of killing everyone on board, and as many people on the ground as he can, can see little kids and babies, and carry out his plan anyway is not wrong (9/11).
Give me one exception that says shooting children for taking candy from American GI's (Iraq) is not wrong.
Give me one exception that says targeting first responders to a previous suicide bombing (Israel) is not wrong.
Isn't the fact that Muslims are the ONLY people who deliberately target mosques enough of a clue for any of you to understand what Islam is and what it's goals are?
What does Beslan have to do with your challenge? In the strictest answer to your question: If there were no additional information (no war is involved and no special circumstances) then it would be wrong to shoot a little kid in the back for no reason at all.
Yet, if you were to add just a little bit more information, my opinion might change.
Imagine that you were the leader to a group of soldiers engaged in a war. You managed to secretly establish a camp within enemy territory. A child, sent out to look for such enemy soldiers discovers your camp and is running to tell its parents. The child is too far for you to catch but you could easily kill it with your silent rifle. If the child escapes, it will tell others and it is highly likely that your group would be attacked, overwhelmed, and killed. What would you do? It would be a tough call for me, but to save many of my fellow soldiers in a fight for a cause that I believe, I would likely kill the child.
Why did you say that the sole purpose was to kill everyone on board and why did you include 9/11 within the same challenge? Dont you understand that you are including an assumption that we may have a disagreement on.
If you had simply asked if it were wrong to board a plane for the mere purpose of killing as many people as you could, I would easily say, Yes.
Right off hand, I cant think of an example in which the shooting of children for taking candy from American GIs is not wrong.
I see nothing wrong with responding to an attack as long as the response is against the correct people. It would be a shame if, in retaliation, someone shoots a little kid in the back as they run for their lives.
In the heat of war, in a dangerous area, accidents and mistakes happen. I am not pardoning gross events that happen but merely pointing out that circumstance should be taken into consideration.
Islam and Muslim are two different things. One is a religion and the other is people that supposedly, allegedly try to folly that religion.