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That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard Universitywww.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdfSo if law abiding people are stripped of their guns criminals won't use them?
Really?
The chances are that if guns are illegal, and hard to get hold of, then criminals will be much more careful about their guns. The latter part is important. Right now there is such a massive supply of guns, criminals don't need to worry about losing a gun.
Do you think I'm going to click on this?
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Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard Universitywww.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdfThe chances are that if guns are illegal, and hard to get hold of, then criminals will be much more careful about their guns. The latter part is important. Right now there is such a massive supply of guns, criminals don't need to worry about losing a gun.
Do you think I'm going to click on this?
But here
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Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard Universitywww.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdfThe chances are that if guns are illegal, and hard to get hold of, then criminals will be much more careful about their guns. The latter part is important. Right now there is such a massive supply of guns, criminals don't need to worry about losing a gun.
Do you think I'm going to click on this?
But here
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Do you want me to paste in all 46 pages?
Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard University
Do you think I'm going to click on this?
But here
View attachment 153078
Do you want me to paste in all 46 pages?
Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard UniversityDo you think I'm going to click on this?
But here
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Do you want me to paste in all 46 pages?
Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard University
But here
View attachment 153078
Do you want me to paste in all 46 pages?
Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No, there actually needs to be people implementing those laws.
That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No, there actually needs to be people implementing those laws.
You mean like in the UK? Gun laws didn't stop people killing each other.
That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No, there actually needs to be people implementing those laws.
You mean like in the UK? Gun laws didn't stop people killing each other.
No, they don't stop people killing each other. But then you seem to be an all or nothing guy. Either you're going to have a fucking amazing birthday, or you don't have a birthday at all.
But other people are more sensible, and they think a murder rate of 1 per 100,000 is BETTER than one of 4 per 100,000.
But then you seem to treat statistics with a lot of elasticity
That seems to be the case in Chicago.
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No, there actually needs to be people implementing those laws.
You mean like in the UK? Gun laws didn't stop people killing each other.
No, they don't stop people killing each other. But then you seem to be an all or nothing guy. Either you're going to have a fucking amazing birthday, or you don't have a birthday at all.
But other people are more sensible, and they think a murder rate of 1 per 100,000 is BETTER than one of 4 per 100,000.
But then you seem to treat statistics with a lot of elasticity
And you cannot say with any certainty that gun laws, gun bans or the much coveted gun confiscation will lower our murder rate to 1 in 100000 can you?
In fact you can't prove it will lower the murder rate at all can you?
Stricter laws may not work; but, more guns does seem to equal, more violence.That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard UniversityDo you think I'm going to click on this?
But here
View attachment 153078
Do you want me to paste in all 46 pages?
Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No, there actually needs to be people implementing those laws.
You mean like in the UK? Gun laws didn't stop people killing each other.
No, they don't stop people killing each other. But then you seem to be an all or nothing guy. Either you're going to have a fucking amazing birthday, or you don't have a birthday at all.
But other people are more sensible, and they think a murder rate of 1 per 100,000 is BETTER than one of 4 per 100,000.
But then you seem to treat statistics with a lot of elasticity
And you cannot say with any certainty that gun laws, gun bans or the much coveted gun confiscation will lower our murder rate to 1 in 100000 can you?
In fact you can't prove it will lower the murder rate at all can you?
No, I can't PROVE the future.
So, your argument is, if you can't prove it, don't do it.
Well, you can't prove that you'll wake up tomorrow, so don't wake up. You can't prove the sun will come up tomorrow, so you might as well just die right now because there's nothing left to live for.
Stricter laws may not work; but, more guns does seem to equal, more violence.That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Why not it's a report done at HArvard University
But here
View attachment 153078
Do you want me to paste in all 46 pages?
Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
Yes, it does; and, it conforms to the law of large numbers. Guys usually have to go along with it, for that reason alone.Stricter laws may not work; but, more guns does seem to equal, more violence.That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does; and, it conforms to the law of large numbers. Guys usually have to go along with it, for that reason alone.Stricter laws may not work; but, more guns does seem to equal, more violence.That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No it doesn't.
No, there actually needs to be people implementing those laws.
You mean like in the UK? Gun laws didn't stop people killing each other.
No, they don't stop people killing each other. But then you seem to be an all or nothing guy. Either you're going to have a fucking amazing birthday, or you don't have a birthday at all.
But other people are more sensible, and they think a murder rate of 1 per 100,000 is BETTER than one of 4 per 100,000.
But then you seem to treat statistics with a lot of elasticity
And you cannot say with any certainty that gun laws, gun bans or the much coveted gun confiscation will lower our murder rate to 1 in 100000 can you?
In fact you can't prove it will lower the murder rate at all can you?
No, I can't PROVE the future.
So, your argument is, if you can't prove it, don't do it.
Well, you can't prove that you'll wake up tomorrow, so don't wake up. You can't prove the sun will come up tomorrow, so you might as well just die right now because there's nothing left to live for.
We have plenty of examples in other countries where gun laws did not reduce the murder and or crime rates yet you still think they can.
Who is ignoring the facts here me or you?
Stricter laws may not work; but, more guns does seem to equal, more violence.That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.Because I'm here to debate with the people who I'm debating with, rather than people who aren't here.
Posting sources without any argument is pointless.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No it doesn't.
when you figure it out, holler and we'll add it to the list of things to check.Crazy people with guns kill people.
Crazy people must get back ground checked and keeped away from guns.
How do you find out if someone is crazy? How do you predict when someone will go crazy?
Stricter laws may not work; but, more guns does seem to equal, more violence.That seems to be the case in Chicago.That source corroborates the fact that gun laws and or gun possession has absolutely no effect on the crime and or murder rates.
Which has been my position all along whereas you are convinced that the mere fact that there are more guns raises the crime and murder rate
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No it doesn't.
No, it doesn't. But it would also be rather naive to think that guns don't exacerbate bad situations.
Chicago has "strict gun laws". Chicago also has, a lot of guns.Yes, it does; and, it conforms to the law of large numbers. Guys usually have to go along with it, for that reason alone.Stricter laws may not work; but, more guns does seem to equal, more violence.That seems to be the case in Chicago.
Yeah really strict gun laws do not stop the killing one bit
No it doesn't.
Wrong as usual.
