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What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
Gun control will work in the long term. What will happen is the same thing that happened with cigarettes. The use has declined over the decades since we started placing warnings on them, society has placed burdens on smokers, the health risks have been highlighted and we've taxed the holy you-know-what out of them.
They are still available but much less front-and-center than they used to be.
It takes an incrediby long time to do this but in the end, it is worth every minute spent.
What you do is make the high volumes cartridges harder to get via mail order, place a surtax on them to make them cost prohibitive, and manufacturers sell less of them. So less are made. It is supply and demand.
Lets say that we have a bazillion of these clips out there. Over time, they wear out, get damaged, stolen, destroyed by various means such as fires, floods, etc... So the Bazillion becomes a bathousand over time. Meanwhile, the public becomes safer by increments since you're not able to log on and buy them.
You can replicate the model with things such as the AR15, AK47, etc.. and you're not diminishing the rights under the 2nd amendment at all.
Meanwhile, what you do is place armed guards in schools--men and women trained in aggressive deterence. At no point do you put guns in the hands of teachers or students. Thats batshit crazy.
Human behavior isn't going to change anytime soon but if you took everyone who can't swim and kept them away from water, you'd have fewer drowning deaths. If you stem the tide of guns, eventually, you'll have fewer on the streets.
It's not politics; it's logistics.
What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
Here's something that worked beautifully. Shoot the motherfucker trying to kill innocent people:
Man Attempts to Open Fire on Crowd at Movie Theater, Armed Off-Duty Sheriffs Deputy Drops Him With One Bullet | TheBlaze.com
Man attempts to open fire on a crowd at movie theater. He's dropped with one bullet.
IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.
The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.
And as the size of magazines increases, so does the body count. Hell, you can now buy 100 round magazines on-line, for most assault style rifles, with no background check.
Nonsense. The death toll in the Connecticut shooting was quite small. It was horrific in that it happened all at once, but as killers go, Lanza was small potatoes. John Wayne Gacy and William Bonin both killed more children and never used a gun one time. The Manson family killed entire families without using a gun.
California has extremely stringent gun laws, and the highest murder by gun rate in the US. We have a very high gang participate rate too. DC has zero tolerance for guns and the highest robbery with use of a firearm rate in the world. No matter that politicians sell the myth that people just go over to the next gun friendly state and get one, the real truth is that gun owners and criminals in states that have gun control laws don't. They get them from the same place that the gangs get them. Smuggled in and sold in the underground market.
Nevertheless, gun related violence in the US is going down. It dropped 3% between 2010 and 2011. People got tired of being victims and started getting their own protection.
25 years ago Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law mandating gun ownership for every person over 21. In 25 years there has not been a single gun fatality. The population quadrupled without a single gun fatality.
Contrast that with Morton Grove that instituted a total ban for eveyone except police officers. The overall population dropped slightly, but the crime rate rose over 15%.
25 years murder-free in ‘Gun Town USA’
IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.
The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.
And as the size of magazines increases, so does the body count. Hell, you can now buy 100 round magazines on-line, for most assault style rifles, with no background check.
None of that matters, and all the gun legislation wouldn't be needed if we locked up the crazies. We used to do it, when we had state institutions. If you are on medication you can't own or posess a firearm. I don't care if it's for depression or what ever, if you are on a medication designed to "balance you out" or help you "cope", no guns for you.
NRA people need to speak up. If we lock up the crazies there are no more mass gun attacks, and no more call for anti gun legislation. Re focus your energy.
IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.
The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.
The Left doesn't want to divert the attention to the crazy people who are the real cause. They want the discussion to focus on guns being the problem so they can ban them.
You're full of shit. The fact that you don't want to address the greater and greater ability to commit the crazy acts to increase body counts shows what a joke you are.
“There is no pattern, there is no increase,” says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston’s Northeastern University.
Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, said that while mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached their peak in 1929, according to his data. He estimates that there were 32 in the 1980s, 42 in the 1990s and 26 in the first decade of the century.
Indeed.
As we all know, tens of thousands of veterans, many of whom complain of PTSD, are perfectly suited to carry a gun around a school full of screaming and yelling children.
Ok, I'm being sarcastic.
Ok, so none of our veterans are mentally qualified to possess weapons. Do you agree that should be part of the background check for personal firearm purchase.
Back to the OP's point. As you see, the rightwing has NO alternative ideas, let alone solutions.
They've rejected more gun control, they are now rejecting putting more armed security in our public buildings.
The Right is satisfied with the status quo. That much is clear.
"The right" is satisfied with the US Constitution, lower taxation, and less government.
Armed security surrounded the Mass Murder at Ft. Hood.
The knee jerk reaction to enlarge government to protect every citizen from every possible contingency, including the actions of the insane is absurd.
Tell you what, I'll meet you halfway: how about we arm just principals. After all, they never go crazy......
NRA people need to speak up. If we lock up the crazies there are no more mass gun attacks, and no more call for anti gun legislation. Re focus your energy.
Define "crazies." That's a slippery slope there because i'm sure plenty of lefties would call for righties to be locked up for nothing more than the political views, and vice versa.
The re-opening of mental assylums. The ones that never should have closed in the first place. Guns, videogames, music, tv, and all the other BS don't kill people...Fucking mental patients kill people. Lock them up. Proof of needed medication is enough.
What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
Here's something that worked beautifully. Shoot the motherfucker trying to kill innocent people:
Man Attempts to Open Fire on Crowd at Movie Theater, Armed Off-Duty Sheriffs Deputy Drops Him With One Bullet | TheBlaze.com
Man attempts to open fire on a crowd at movie theater. He's dropped with one bullet.
NRA people need to speak up. If we lock up the crazies there are no more mass gun attacks, and no more call for anti gun legislation. Re focus your energy.
Define "crazies." That's a slippery slope there because i'm sure plenty of lefties would call for righties to be locked up for nothing more than the political views, and vice versa.
What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
Here's something that worked beautifully. Shoot the motherfucker trying to kill innocent people:
Man Attempts to Open Fire on Crowd at Movie Theater, Armed Off-Duty Sheriffs Deputy Drops Him With One Bullet | TheBlaze.com
Man attempts to open fire on a crowd at movie theater. He's dropped with one bullet.
The progressive answer to gun control = ban guns that aren't being used in these mass killings and teach everyone to hide really well and hope for the best
Your broad brush shows that you're full of shit.
Just going by the progressive media I've been flipping around. "Ban assault weapons" is the rally cry and there wasn't even an assault rifle used here.
And what did they do when the devil came? start hiding and hope for the best. Tragically that's all the option they have in these idiotic "gun free zones", better known as "criminal safe zones".
Just the facts dick.
The re-opening of mental assylums. The ones that never should have closed in the first place. Guns, videogames, music, tv, and all the other BS don't kill people...Fucking mental patients kill people. Lock them up. Proof of needed medication is enough.
not this kid, not dylan klebold, not the kid in the movie theatre in colorado... none of them were overt enough threats sufficient to have warranted being institutinalized prior to their killing sprees.
now what?
What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
Here's something that worked beautifully. Shoot the motherfucker trying to kill innocent people:
Man Attempts to Open Fire on Crowd at Movie Theater, Armed Off-Duty Sheriffs Deputy Drops Him With One Bullet | TheBlaze.com
Man attempts to open fire on a crowd at movie theater. He's dropped with one bullet.
Yes, we can initiate an arts appreciation program to get more law enforcement officers interested in the theatre.
You people are sad.
What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
Here's something that worked beautifully. Shoot the motherfucker trying to kill innocent people:
Man Attempts to Open Fire on Crowd at Movie Theater, Armed Off-Duty Sheriff’s Deputy Drops Him With One Bullet | TheBlaze.com
Man attempts to open fire on a crowd at movie theater. He's dropped with one bullet.
yes, the answer is to revert to the wild west so you nutters can feel empowered like the macho men you wish you were.
yep...
What is the answer?
Something, or nothing? If something, what?
Here's something that worked beautifully. Shoot the motherfucker trying to kill innocent people:
Man Attempts to Open Fire on Crowd at Movie Theater, Armed Off-Duty Sheriffs Deputy Drops Him With One Bullet | TheBlaze.com
Man attempts to open fire on a crowd at movie theater. He's dropped with one bullet.
yes, the answer is to revert to the wild west so you nutters can feel empowered like the macho men you wish you were.
yep...
Your broad brush shows that you're full of shit.
Just going by the progressive media I've been flipping around. "Ban assault weapons" is the rally cry and there wasn't even an assault rifle used here.
And what did they do when the devil came? start hiding and hope for the best. Tragically that's all the option they have in these idiotic "gun free zones", better known as "criminal safe zones".
Just the facts dick.
The Bushmaster AR-15 is a civilian version of the M-16, it's capable of using high capacity ammo clips, and even includes a flash suppressor. Police have said he had several high capacity clips. Not sure if they were 30, 50, or 100 round clips. It is an assault weapon.
