CDZ If Greg Gutfeld is right about the Paris Treaty....how is he wrong?

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    Greg Gutfeld gives a good breakdown of the folly of our ever having joined the Paris Climate Treaty...an agreement for us since it was joined unConstitutionally because the Senate never ratified the treaty......

    How is Gutfeld wrong...since he is right on the details......?

     
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    Hint: it was not a Treaty.

    No Senate ratification necessary.

    Next.
     
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    It was a treaty, obama just ignored the ratification process........and the rinos let him get away with it...they should have taken him into court...
     
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    No, 2aguy, you are not any authority (civic, governmental, etc.) on the process.

    The Accord was constitutional, and that fries your grits.
     
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    No...it wasn't......it was a treaty....that is what everyone else calls it.....it needed to be ratified by the Senate...and obama didn't submit it to the Senate because he knew it wouldn't pass...
     
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    Stephen Groves is the head of the anti-American Freedom Project, 2aguy.

    If it is illegal, all Trump has to do is say it is illegal. Unfortunately (for you), the Accord is legal.
     
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    Since the US Senate did not ratify it, the Paris Accords (PA) is not a legal treaty but rather an Executive Agreement. Obama used his executive authority to sign it, and Trump can use his executive authority to pull out of it. The bad news is that under the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), a treaty that we signed in 1992 and was ratified by the Senate, the US withdrawal wouldn't be effective until 3 years after the PA was signed (Nov 2019). But Trump can hurry that along by withdrawing from the UNFCCC too, thus negating the 3 year commitment down to 1 year. [The above is from analysis by the Congressional Research Service.]
     
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    The agreement was NON binding and NOT able to be enforced.
    EXCEPT for the part where WE agreed to pay for everything. And THAT makes it ILLEGAL because it is the House that sets the budget and spending NOT the president.
     
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    Read what I wrote to 2aguy, please.
     

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