If Government is Inept, why not get rid of it?

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  1. amrchaos
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    "Government is Broken"--"Government is inept"--"Government is the problem"

    "YADA YADA YADA"


    These are the statements uttered by rightwingers every election year. But if the problem is government, then why not get rid of it? I can think of numerous reasons why government sucks(reason #1--I am not the Dictator!) but I wonder why a rightwinger does not.

    For all the Rightwingers, Libertarians, Conservatives and even rightwing Fascists--Why do you wish to keep or destroy government.
     
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    Why not have the will to reign it back in??.... to keep it strong in power over the areas where power is indeed granted by our constitution, but keeping the reach and scope of government in check

    Nobody is advocating getting rid of the government, nor do I know of anyone who thinks it is a good idea
     
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    You say "Reign it back in" to what?

    I hear talk of smaller government, but what exact is the size of smaller government?


    Is your size of government smaller or larger than your buddy size? and What if programs that you prefer (I am guessing military) is cut while a program that you think is excessive grows, but the over arching size of government is made smaller, would that satisfy you?
     
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    Because the US still has the best form of Government in the world.
     
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    Destroy Government? No. I'm not an Anarchist..

    It's called small Limited Government, getting rid of the Useless Social Programs that do more harm than good, and are just another add to the Debt and a Weight to the Tax Payer.

    Cutting Taxes to the Small Businesses. That's self Explanatory. They need all the money they can get to keep their Company Growing.

    Government is Broken, how? Because every party right now, cares about their Agenda only, some don't want to participate in Partisanship. If you want an Efficient Government you have to Toss aside your Personal Agenda, and focus on the Country's Agenda.

    It's also called Reading the Constitution..
     
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    That is the logical fallacy of argument to the extreme. So by wanting to change X in thing Y, what you really want is to destroy Y totally.

    This tactic is seen in the abortion debate, where any change to the law relating to abortion is seen as wanting to ban it (or on the other side free abortions for all, for whatever reason)
     
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    Strawman much?

    Libertarians are for constraining gubmint to its proper and enumerated roles, not eliminating it altogether....Probably best to keep it around in the few areas where it is empowered to act, just to demonstrate how inept and ineffective it really is.
     
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    If less spending is needed for defense, that is something the government itself needs to address, because that actually IS something the government is charged to provide... The constitution is there to guide on what the federal government is indeed empowered to do...

    Just take a look of agencies and departments we have in our government (just beginning with the letters A or B) that really do not have any reason to be in our federal government

    Administration for Children and Families (ACF)
    Administration for Native Americans
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    Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)
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    Our federal government was not intended to be some all encompassing puppet master with strings going into every last aspect of the lives of the citizenry... it was not intended to be a nanny or charity... it was intended to be smaller in scope but great in power... the government was not given total power and then specifically told what it can't do... the government was limited to what it was charged to do in the first place, with an amendment process to deal with any additions subtractions or modifications needed in the listed powers

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
     
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    Yeah, its ridiculous. Nothing human's do is perfect, but we have one of the best forms of gov't in the world, and are one of the most prosperous countries in the world. IMO, we are the best in the world. The delusional people will claim that has nothing to do with government, but that's just complete hogwash. Our justice system, our infrastructure, our education, research funding, etc all help this country prosper. Regulations help protect americans from deceitful and harmful practices by businesses, and protect their rights.

    yeah there is many fucked up policies, and things slip through the cracks, and their is corruption, but that's humans, nowhere in the world will get you get none of those things.

    They just sound stupid when they make claims that everything government is bad and inept.

    Meanwhile they probably are completely inept in many facets of life themselves
     
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    and as soon as something they benefit is cut, they bitch and moan. Or there will be someone out there that will not be happy about certain things being cut. Free speech is great but at the same time people abuse it and do nothing but bitch bitch bitch about everything, all while doing nothing about it
     

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