If GOP Nominates a Hard Right-Winger or a Crank, They Risk Losing - Noonan

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After explaining why Obama has been a poor President, and why it is the Republican's election to lose, former Bush speechwriter and political commentator Peggy Noonan had this to say.

You would think Democratic professionals, who read the same numbers Republicans do and pick up similar trends, would be hanging their heads in despair.

They are not. They have hope. Their hope is that Republicans in the early caucus and primary states will go crazy.

They hope the GOP will nominate for the presidency someone strange, extreme or barely qualified. They hope that in a mood of antic cultural pique, or in a great acting out of disdain for elites, or to annoy the mainstream media, Republican voters will raise high candidates who are unacceptable to everyone else. Everyone else of course being the great and vital center, which hires and fires presidents. The Democrats' hope is that centrists will look at the Republican nominee and, holding their nose, choose the devil they know. Especially if the one they don't know seems to have little horns under his hair.

Republicans voting in recent presidential primaries have tended to pick the candidates who are viewed as the moderate in the race—Bob Dole in 1996, George W. Bush in 2000, John McCain in 2008. But in truth, there are some pretty antic candidates out there this year.

The great question of the coming year is not, "Will Obama reignite his base?" or, "Will the Democrats outraise and outspend the GOP?" It is: Will the GOP be serious? Will Republicans be equal to their history, their tradition and the moment? If they are—if they recruit and support candidates who can speak to the entire country, who have serious experience and accomplishments, who are grounded and credible, then they will win centrist support. And with it they will likely win the thing without which they cannot achieve the big changes they seek, and that is the presidency.

Obama Is Likely to Lose - WSJ.com
 
After explaining why Obama has been a poor President, and why it is the Republican's election to lose, former Bush speechwriter and political commentator Peggy Noonan had this to say.

You would think Democratic professionals, who read the same numbers Republicans do and pick up similar trends, would be hanging their heads in despair.

They are not. They have hope. Their hope is that Republicans in the early caucus and primary states will go crazy.

They hope the GOP will nominate for the presidency someone strange, extreme or barely qualified. They hope that in a mood of antic cultural pique, or in a great acting out of disdain for elites, or to annoy the mainstream media, Republican voters will raise high candidates who are unacceptable to everyone else. Everyone else of course being the great and vital center, which hires and fires presidents. The Democrats' hope is that centrists will look at the Republican nominee and, holding their nose, choose the devil they know. Especially if the one they don't know seems to have little horns under his hair.

Republicans voting in recent presidential primaries have tended to pick the candidates who are viewed as the moderate in the race—Bob Dole in 1996, George W. Bush in 2000, John McCain in 2008. But in truth, there are some pretty antic candidates out there this year.

The great question of the coming year is not, "Will Obama reignite his base?" or, "Will the Democrats outraise and outspend the GOP?" It is: Will the GOP be serious? Will Republicans be equal to their history, their tradition and the moment? If they are—if they recruit and support candidates who can speak to the entire country, who have serious experience and accomplishments, who are grounded and credible, then they will win centrist support. And with it they will likely win the thing without which they cannot achieve the big changes they seek, and that is the presidency.

Obama Is Likely to Lose - WSJ.com

did she write for bush too? I thought she was strictly a Reaganite.


anyway, peggy was taken with obama, and has been pretty flattering or ' very' even handed with him over the last 2 years, so this is interesting tea leaf reading by her.

And of course shes right, no offense but this isn't rocket science, someone personable and 'apparently' competent, not that the latter is a virtue a amongst pols, if they have to much of the former especially :lol:
 
Noonan...........shes an establishment Republican............getting ornery because she used to be a babe and now she's officially lost it. The only place she can get passes now is going to the DC parties where idiots like Karl Rove can hit on her.
 
Noonan...........shes an establishment Republican............getting ornery because she used to be a babe and now she's officially lost it. The only place she can get passes now is going to the DC parties where idiots like Karl Rove can hit on her.

Noonan supported John McCain in the last election.

Look how well that turned out.
 
Noonan...........shes an establishment Republican............getting ornery because she used to be a babe and now she's officially lost it. The only place she can get passes now is going to the DC parties where idiots like Karl Rove can hit on her.

Noonan supported John McCain in the last election.

Look how well that turned out.


Exactly.........she's a loser like all the establishment GOP. FCukk thEm
 
Did not know Peggy Noonan or that she was a commontater before this thread.
Not sure whether to thank you or not Toro.
 
I am going to write in a fictional character for president in 2012.

All the real people are ... compromised.
 
Noonan...........shes an establishment Republican............getting ornery because she used to be a babe and now she's officially lost it. The only place she can get passes now is going to the DC parties where idiots like Karl Rove can hit on her.

Noonan supported John McCain in the last election.

Look how well that turned out.

humm are you sure? :eusa_eh:
 
Is this the same Peggy Noonan who was lavishing Obama with praise throughout the 2008 election? Yeah, I'm sure the GOP is real concerned about her opinion.
 
Noonan...........shes an establishment Republican............getting ornery because she used to be a babe and now she's officially lost it. The only place she can get passes now is going to the DC parties where idiots like Karl Rove can hit on her.

Noonan supported John McCain in the last election.

Look how well that turned out.
All the Conservative commentators said we need a "moderate, get along with Democrats" sort of nominee. Colin Powell said we need a guy like John McCain, then he endorsed Obama.

The Republican nominee this time around needs to be a Conservative, if the Left wants to paint him or her as an extremist, well then we just need to deal with that.

No more McCains!
 
Despite her track record, she's right.


And it's because America is bi-polar. They don't like to hear we're going broke, but they oppose cuts that affect them, in the polls.

They think they're over-taxed, but taxes are historically low.

It's a wishy-washy Electorate, most of which has no fucking clue or desire to have a clue about Politics.
 
I think the next election is the GOP's to lose. Obama has clearly demonstrated that ideologues make poor presidents. However, the same applies to the opposite party. If the GOP chooses some hardliner, then Obama will be re-elected simply because Americans are willing to go with the devil they know than the one they don't. Then it will all boil down to who has the majority in the House and Senate.

Americans clearly don't approve of Obama's job performance. However, it would be foolish to believe that Americans want to go in the exact opposite side of the spectrum.
 
Despite her track record, she's right.


And it's because America is bi-polar. They don't like to hear we're going broke, but they oppose cuts that affect them, in the polls.

They think they're over-taxed, but taxes are historically low.

It's a wishy-washy Electorate, most of which has no fucking clue or desire to have a clue about Politics.

i'm not sure it's that they're wishy washy, though they're certainly easily led. what they don't want is extreme solutions like eviscerating medicare. on the other hand. the parties make a huge mistake when they forget what they were elected to do. dems were elected to end the two wars of choice we were involved in and engage in a more intelligent foreign policy. they were also supposed to fix the jobs situation.

repubs were elected in 2010 to get hold of spending and act as a counterweight to some dem programs, not to engage in a social restructuring of the country or to destroy everything done by the new deal.

it's like in wisconsin. they may have wanted walker and the repubs to get the budget done, but they sure as heck didn't hire them to engage in union busting.

as for the rest... nothing is going to get done unless their is campaign finance reform... and citizens united pretty much killed any shot of that.
 
Noonan...........shes an establishment Republican............getting ornery because she used to be a babe and now she's officially lost it. The only place she can get passes now is going to the DC parties where idiots like Karl Rove can hit on her.

Noonan supported John McCain in the last election.

Look how well that turned out.

Yes, a crippled candidate that nobody wanted after his support of Amnesty.

He was perfect.........for the Democrats. Howard Dean would have beat him.
 
Despite her track record, she's right.


And it's because America is bi-polar. They don't like to hear we're going broke, but they oppose cuts that affect them, in the polls.

They think they're over-taxed, but taxes are historically low.

It's a wishy-washy Electorate, most of which has no fucking clue or desire to have a clue about Politics.

i'm not sure it's that they're wishy washy, though they're certainly easily led. what they don't want is extreme solutions like eviscerating medicare. on the other hand. the parties make a huge mistake when they forget what they were elected to do. dems were elected to end the two wars of choice we were involved in and engage in a more intelligent foreign policy. they were also supposed to fix the jobs situation.

repubs were elected in 2010 to get hold of spending and act as a counterweight to some dem programs, not to engage in a social restructuring of the country or to destroy everything done by the new deal.

it's like in wisconsin. they may have wanted walker and the repubs to get the budget done, but they sure as heck didn't hire them to engage in union busting.

as for the rest... nothing is going to get done unless their is campaign finance reform... and citizens united pretty much killed any shot of that.

I disagree that they're not wishy washy.

A distant friend of mine was crying on his facebook about free-speech because Kobe Bryant was fined by the NBA for saying faggot.

He was fined by a Corporation, wearing their uniform thus representing them, as their employee.

People are fucking stupid in regard to politics. Plan, flat out, fucking stupid. They believe the FIRST thing they hear that seems to make sense, no questions asked.
 
Despite her track record, she's right.


And it's because America is bi-polar. They don't like to hear we're going broke, but they oppose cuts that affect them, in the polls.

They think they're over-taxed, but taxes are historically low.

It's a wishy-washy Electorate, most of which has no fucking clue or desire to have a clue about Politics.

i'm not sure it's that they're wishy washy, though they're certainly easily led. what they don't want is extreme solutions like eviscerating medicare. on the other hand. the parties make a huge mistake when they forget what they were elected to do. dems were elected to end the two wars of choice we were involved in and engage in a more intelligent foreign policy. they were also supposed to fix the jobs situation.

repubs were elected in 2010 to get hold of spending and act as a counterweight to some dem programs, not to engage in a social restructuring of the country or to destroy everything done by the new deal.

it's like in wisconsin. they may have wanted walker and the repubs to get the budget done, but they sure as heck didn't hire them to engage in union busting.

as for the rest... nothing is going to get done unless their is campaign finance reform... and citizens united pretty much killed any shot of that.

I disagree that they're not wishy washy.

A distant friend of mine was crying on his facebook about free-speech because Kobe Bryant was fined by the NBA for saying faggot.

He was fined by a Corporation, wearing their uniform thus representing them, as their employee.

People are fucking stupid in regard to politics. Plan, flat out, fucking stupid. They believe the FIRST thing they hear that seems to make sense, no questions asked.

Which is why the best way to win an election is look good in a suit, attack the opposition, and never give away your beliefs. And most of all don't sound like a politician.

Obama won on everything but the latter.

What people are begging for is somebody nice looking that talks to them rather then above them. Somebody with some guts. Ronald Reagan, or somebody like him.
 
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How Obama got elected without having perfect hair....will always be one of those mysteries of life.
 

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