If Germany had, instead of bombing England, focused entirely on prolonged attacking of shipping.

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    No battle over British airfields or bombing England itself, except maybe occasional attacks against shipping ports. That would be as far as they venture into England. Crank out the U-Boats and send submarines and the entire luftwaffe after commercial shipping. Could the Luftwaffe have added anything to the U-boat campaign by serving as visibility, attacking submarine destroyers to aid U-Boat escape, and bombing commercial shipping itself?

    Who would win that long, protracted starve them of resources campaign if Germany did not invaded Russia?
     
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    ....the Luftwaffe did--especially in the North Sea and Mediterranean
    1. they would've had to attack the shipping away from England meaning farther out to sea = now you are getting into fuel problems
    AND, compass problems---navigating over ocean is not easy.....
    2. attacking shipping takes much, much more skill than attacking airfields/cities--they were lucky to hit cities!!!!!
    3. as with ALL these ''IF'' scenarios, it is much, much more complicated than what you post.....the Brits would react to it-[ adjust ] -just like they did to the V1s
     
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    Had the Luftwaffe continued their campaign against airfields instead concentrating on London for six weeks after the first bomb attack on Berlin, Britain would have lost.
     
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    The US military had a defense of the hemisphere plan that evolved as ww2 approached ...and then broke out ..

    with a plan to retake The UK

    interesting stuff
     
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    no, they would not have
     
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    Yes, of course.
     
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    As it was, the Brits just moved the Air Fields out of the range of the Luftwaffe but close enough for defense. The Luftwaffe could not HIT those airfields. And the P-40s from America were on the way that had the range to hit France from the protracted Air Fields. The best thing the Luftwaffe could have done was to not attack at all. They had Greater Europe and had the power to hold it. Think of all those losses. Had they still had those birds and resources, maybe Operation Barbarossa would have been better. And maybe the US would have stayed out of it openly. The Brits would have NEVER done the B-17 and B-24 daylight bombings. Only an American wold be that insane. So that is mistake #2, declaring war on the US. Germany could have had greater Europe all the way to the Urals. But no.......
     
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    The problem here is that the Brits declared war on Germany. Hitler was a big admirer of the Empire ("brought civilization to the world") and never would have attacked them for hegemony.
    Almost all souhtern airfields were destroyed when the Luftwaffe began targeting London. Six weeks are enough to recover them. A planned invasion of the island was cancelled.
    As for the war against the US, this sounds lunatic indeed but there are several factors that speak for it:

    - US was already hunting German ships
    - It would become impossible to keep the naval blockade up without targeting American forces
    - The Japanese operations and strength promised to keep the Americans very busy
    - Quick and absolute victory over France, the back then military No 1.
     
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    If you are going to start a world war best to have a better naval strategy than ones that lost the last one. Lone raiders and wolfpacks not suited to offensive global ops.
     
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    sure, sure----OK....whatever you say..the Germans would've won
    ...now you can go back to playing your Axis and Allies and board games where the Germans win
     
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