If faith is a gift

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    If faith is a gift, then how can any fault be found in one who was not given it.
     
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    What makes you think anyone was not given faith?
     
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    Talking to atheists.
     
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    Doesn't mean they didn't get the gift, it just means they don't like/want/use the gift. A bit like you don't use that gift from your mother in law. You know the one I am talking about, the one you only bring out when she is visiting.
     
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    I don't get it. Why even bother bringing it up if we all allegedly have it, - yet some very obviously don't.

    My housemate cannot make that leap. Her mother works for the Methodist Church, and you'd think she would be so blessed, but no. She felt like odd duck out of water because faith is not logical, and she is very logical. It didn't make any sense to her. Period.

    Doesn't look to me like she got the gift.
     
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    If an Atheist really believes there in no God... then who in the Hell is going to give them 'the gift'?

    A true atheist could care less about me and my God, and the gifts God gives me.... as long as I leave them alone about it. (which I do.. because my life can speak volumes of who I am and who my God is)
     
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    Calm down, mister.

    This isn't a call to arms. I posted because I want to know if others see it as I do. It's a gift. Obviously not everybody is given said gift, or there would be no atheists.

    That's logical, in my estimation.
     
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    :lol:

    We may be asking the same thing in a different way...

    I say if one is Godless, then they wouldnt recognize the gift in the 1st place. They just call it something else... like perhaps, optimism or perseverance. :dunno:
     
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    First of all, I disagree that faith is a gift. It may be a natural outcome. As a Buddhist, rather than saying I have "faith in the Buddha", I may instead saying I have "faith" or confidence that Buddhist meditation can positively affect one's mind. In my case, "faith" or confidence in meditation is a natural outcome of meditating.

    As for the other part of your sentence, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. People who say they "have faith" may have just as many character flaws as the people who say the "don't have faith".
     
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    Okay, I'm talking about Christian faith, based on the Bible.

    Ephesians 2:8-9

    “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”
     

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