If Christians are allowed to discriminate against gays ...

Should gays be allowed to discriminate against Christians?

  • Seems fair to me.

  • No, only religious people should be protected.


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Not necessarily. For instance, the cafe that turned away Trump's people did so because of their deeply held convictions that Trump's folks do horrible things to,say, kids at the border.

That is not a sincerely held religious belief.
I know. It is a sincerely held secular belief. But one held on dubious grounds. Much like hearsay.

Refusal to promote uber-documented and intrinsic to LGBT kid sex shows (pride parades) they all embrace is also a secular belief. And law in all 50 states. Even secular folks can't be forced to promote lifestyles they find wholly repugnant and/or are illegal to promote. What are there, millions of photos since the 1960s documenting the for-kids and whoever deviant sex parades? There may even be billions of photos by now.
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Indiana landlord evicts church over sign saying 'LGBTQ is a hate crime'

Unless their lease gave the landlord editorial rights over the church's message, I see a lawsuit happening.
 
Dont force acceptance of your sexual lifestyle on others and everything will be fine.

Agreed. Likewise with religion. The whole idea of protected classes is bunk. If some wants to hang a 'No Christians' sign outside their business, it should be their right. That's the point of the thread.
You're treading into dangerous waters there pal. Imagine the chaos. Anyone can discriminate against anyone for any reason, including the fact that they may have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed that day? We should not be encouraging or enabling discrimination.

Yes, we need the peace and order of a suppressive state, forcing people to mouth the "correct" opinions. We can't be having with the chaos of freedom and individuality. If fascism does nothing else, it keeps things neat and the trains running on time, right?
 
Cats and dogs. Living together!
Cats and dogs most certainly can live together as are many other species able to live with those who are different from them. They could teach humans a thing or two if only they could learn.

Cats and dogs live together primarily when a more powerful governing force (their human owners) make them do so. Humans are not animals, or pets, and they neither want nor need an outside controlling force dictating what is acceptable.
 
Do you want to make getting up on the wrong side of the bed illegal too?
No, I want treating others badly in your place of business because of you bigotry, ignorance or bad mood illegal.

As opposed to treating others badly in your place of business - or someone else's place of business - because you've decided they're bigoted or ignorant. THAT'S okay.
 
Do you want to make getting up on the wrong side of the bed illegal too?
No, I want treating others badly in your place of business because of you bigotry, ignorance or bad mood illegal.

Then you're barking up the wrong tree with PA laws. They're just targeting a handful of biases that the government has deemed unacceptable.
Perhaps. But how many straight, white, males are discriminated against as opposed to others?

All of them. Hey, look at the way YOU just singled them out.
 
Cats and dogs. Living together!
Cats and dogs most certainly can live together as are many other species able to live with those who are different from them. They could teach humans a thing or two if only they could learn.

Your ability to circumvent the point of a post is remarkable. That's a line from Ghostbusters. I'm mocking your suggesting that getting rid of PA laws would result in "chaos".

Anyone can discriminate against anyone for any reason, including the fact that they may have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed that day? We should not be encouraging or enabling discrimination.

Sometimes it seems that you really don't understand how these laws work. You realize that discriminating against someone because you "got up on the wrong side of the bed" is perfectly legal now, right?
Mock away. Think about what kind of society you want to be part of. If in fact you want to be part of society.

Not one where the government mandates that people lie for fear of prosecution.
 
As opposed to treating others badly in your place of business - or someone else's place of business - because you've decided they're bigoted or ignorant. THAT'S okay.

Also OK: arresting them in Canada for passive free speech opposed to the LGBT ideology....while the latter is performing lewd sex acts in public for a kid-invite parade themed on deviant sex identity....un-arrested. Not even cited. Indeed, applauded by law enforcement there.

Welcome to the end of your free fascist reign as the moderate nature of most people stirs to awaken at the polls. Seems Ontario bit liberals in Canada recently. They're a mere memory there now I guess: Liberals lose official party status after getting only seven seats | The Star
 
Yep, ^^ and those two pictures are "all there is to see here folks!" of what the public has commonly known of in gay pride parades held all across the US every year since the 1960s...inviting little kids to watch....

Syriusly, your spin is fatigued. Get a new act. Soros, shouldn't you replace the name "Syriusly" with another pony that does more than one trick?
You might want to take some of your own advise nd learn a new trick or two. Your spin is fatigued. Get a new act.
When you spin something, it means you're lying. The pictures of these parades show I am not lying.

The pictures you show just demonstrate your hobby of searching for gay porn and trying to spin it as pride parades.

I don't think it's the porn she after. Sil's obsession is clearly fear based. Something about homosexuality is at once terrifying and irresistible to her.

I think her fear has driven her to the exotic world of gay porn.
 
In fact, the new liberal standard is that if you own a business and would find it morally offensive to serve someone, you can refuse them service and ask them to leave. That's what the "progressive" owner of the Red Hen did to Sarah Sanders and her family, and most liberals who commented on the matter said that was okay.

Actually the new conservative standard is that you can refuse to serve anyone for any reason.

Except of course if the reason has anything to do with Donald Trump.
 
As opposed to treating others badly in your place of business - or someone else's place of business - because you've decided they're bigoted or ignorant. THAT'S okay.
..while the latter is performing lewd sex acts in public for a kid-invite parade

Silhouette- if you know of any sex acts being performed in public in front of children- I do hope you have notified the police.

Because if you haven't- well one would assume you just don't give a damn about those kids.
 
Look you idiot PP. You cannot be a bigot when what you are objecting to are BEHAVIORS. Otherwise a state's penal code is a collection of "bigotry".
This behavior thing is inane and wearing thin. Your heterosexual behavior-if we just focused on what you do sexually- if anything- and discounted and trivialized your value as a whole person. Would you like that? Now shut the fuck up !

Just saying something is inane doesn't disprove it. LGBT are behaviors & an adopted lifestyle defined by some sexual kink habits. You're up against common knowledge on this one. I don't envy you arguing your weak points.

Homosexuality itself is not a behavior- it is an attraction.

Marriage is of course a 'behavior' and one that couples in America have a right to- even though the bigots of America have of course tried to pass laws to prevent couples from marrying that they personally disapprove of.
 
In fact, the new liberal standard is that if you own a business and would find it morally offensive to serve someone, you can refuse them service and ask them to leave. That's what the "progressive" owner of the Red Hen did to Sarah Sanders and her family, and most liberals who commented on the matter said that was okay.

Actually the new conservative standard is that you can refuse to serve anyone for any reason.

That's the libertarian position. And it ought to be added to the Bill of Rights. But the conservative position is different. The conservative position is more, "nuanced".
 
Homosexuality itself is not a behavior- it is an attraction.

Just like addicts are attracted to heroin and other drugs. Just like cleptos are attracted to stealing. Just like bulimics are attracted to throwing up after they eat.

It's a behavior. And it will be spelled out that way by the USSC in the near future. So buckle up buttercup & be prepared to watch your false-premise meet the new firing squad. Say hi to Anne Heche for me!
 
Wow- so you think sexual attraction- heterosexuality and homosexuality is just like a drug addiction?

.

Heterosexuality is the natural attraction via phermones and urges to reproduce with the opposite sex. People are born with that. Homos get the phermone/imprinting process screwed up when they do their first few orgasms with the same sex. So naturally your group knows this and concentrates on softening little kids to the idea of experimentation with same-sex partners. Read my signature for details on that one.

Heterosexuality is the natural drive to procreate, which homos cannot do. Drug addiction is self-soothing behavior which after the first few bouts using a substance, becomes habitually transferred onto the substance: which is not a natural inborn trait but a substitute, just like homo sex.

Crosswired deviant habits are behaviors which are not innate. Do you defend necrophilia too? Nobody is born wanting to hump a dead body. Unless they train themselves to via frustration or other deviant skew of behaviors somewhere along the way. Deviant behaviors may be a bugger to deal with, but they're still just behaviors that are deviant. Do all of them get immunity from majority regulation or just YOUR pet favorites?
 
Wow- so you think sexual attraction- heterosexuality and homosexuality is just like a drug addiction?

.

Heterosexuality is the natural attraction via phermones and urges to reproduce with the opposite sex. People are born with that.

Wait- either sexual attraction- which is the basis of both heterosexuality and homosexuality- is just like drug addiction in your mind- or it isn't.

Which is it?
 
Wait- either sexual attraction- which is the basis of both heterosexuality and homosexuality- is just like drug addiction in your mind- or it isn't.

Which is it?
One is natural and one is a learned behavior. Just like eating is natural in order to digest food, but bulimia is the aberration of eating from a learned behavior contrary to the innate one for survival.
 

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