If Background checks are good for one Right, how about for voting?

[JoeB131]

No...the point stands....if background checks are good for the Right to self defense they are good for voting as well.....

Um, no, the word "guns' appears nowhere in the second Amendment. Neither does the words "self-defense".

The second amendment is about militias....

 

[martybegan]

Here is Dr. John Lott pointing out that democrats feel great about requiring background checks for the exercise of the Right of self defense...so why not use background checks for the Right to vote?

when you can kill someone with a ballot, you might have a point.

With a ballot you can kill a country.

 

[martybegan]

No...the point stands....if background checks are good for the Right to self defense they are good for voting as well.....

Um, no, the word "guns' appears nowhere in the second Amendment. Neither does the words "self-defense".

The second amendment is about militias....

it's about the individual State's right to a Militia, and the PEOPLE's right to keep and bear arms.

You have lost this argument so many times, it's painful.

 

[JoeB131]

With a ballot you can kill a country.

true enough, you guys proved that in 2016.

 

[JoeB131]

it's about the individual State's right to a Militia, and the PEOPLE's right to keep and bear arms.

You have lost this argument so many times, it's painful.

Then why didn't they figure that out until 2010?

 

[martybegan]

With a ballot you can kill a country.

true enough, you guys proved that in 2016.

nope.

 

[martybegan]

it's about the individual State's right to a Militia, and the PEOPLE's right to keep and bear arms.

You have lost this argument so many times, it's painful.

Then why didn't they figure that out until 2010?

because its only been the past few decades that gun grabbing fucktards like you have tried to disarm law abiding americans outside of a few progressive hellholes, and fighting back took time and $$.

We are winning, you are not.

 

[JoeB131]

because its only been the past few decades that gun grabbing fucktards like you have tried to disarm law abiding americans outside of a few progressive hellholes, and fighting back took time and $$.

We are winning, you are not.

Quit the reverse, people are sick on the carnage your fetish is inflicting on the country.

 

[martybegan]

because its only been the past few decades that gun grabbing fucktards like you have tried to disarm law abiding americans outside of a few progressive hellholes, and fighting back took time and $$.

We are winning, you are not.

Quit the reverse, people are sick on the carnage your fetish is inflicting on the country.

Nope. More and more places are allowing law abiding citizens their rights again.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope. More and more places are allowing law abiding citizens their rights again.

and eventually, they'll realize what a bad idea that was.

 

[2aguy]

No...the point stands....if background checks are good for the Right to self defense they are good for voting as well.....

Um, no, the word "guns' appears nowhere in the second Amendment. Neither does the words "self-defense".

The second amendment is about militias....

Moron...you should actually do research..you might actually understand what you are talking about.....Arms are protected by our natural right o self defense....that Right is codified in the 2nd Amendmemt.......

 

[2aguy]

it's about the individual State's right to a Militia, and the PEOPLE's right to keep and bear arms.

You have lost this argument so many times, it's painful.

Then why didn't they figure that out until 2010?

REad the Heller decision......they list all the various courts since before our founding that understood this.....

 

[2aguy]

because its only been the past few decades that gun grabbing fucktards like you have tried to disarm law abiding americans outside of a few progressive hellholes, and fighting back took time and $$.

We are winning, you are not.

Quit the reverse, people are sick on the carnage your fetish is inflicting on the country.

carnage? As more Americans carry guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%....our gun crime rate went down 75%.....our violent crime rate went down 72%......Britain banned guns.....their gun crime rate in London went up....42% in London all by itself..and it is up all over their country...


GUess what.......as we went from 11 million people carrying guns to 16.3 million...it just came out...our murder rate dropped another 2.5%.....yep.....law abiding people carrying guns for self defense does not increase crime or gun crime......

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Here is Dr. John Lott pointing out that democrats feel great about requiring background checks for the exercise of the Right of self defense...so why not use background checks for the Right to vote?

Apply background checks for gun purchases to voting

Republicans worry about vote fraud. Democrats claim that Republicans are just imagining things. But in testimony Tuesday before the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, I will suggest a simple solution that could make both parties happy: Apply the background check system for gun purchases to voting.

Democrats have long lauded background checks on gun purchases as simple, accurate and in complete harmony with the Second Amendment right to own guns. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., has bragged that the checks “make our communities and neighborhoods safer without in any way abridging rights or threatening a legitimate part of the American heritage.”

If Democrats really believe that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System doesn’t interfere “in any way” with people’s constitutional rights to own a gun, doesn't it follow that the same system would not constitute an infringement on people’s right to vote? This would give Republicans a system for stopping vote fraud and Democrats a system that they have already vigorously endorsed.

The NICS system doesn't just determine if potential gun buyers have criminal histories. It also checks whether a person is in this country illegally, has a nonimmigrant visa or has renounced his citizenship. Such people are not allowed to vote. The system doesn’t currently flag people who are on immigrant visas but who could be added to the system.


In 34 states, felons are not able to vote immediately upon release. The background-check system would detect these too.

National ID for all, paid for and provided by the government but that won't help the GOP win so it won't happen when they are in charge.

Hahahahahahaha.

Watch that first step.

It's a long way...





























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