And digital drifters duplicitous thread is not involved. No one denied Obama shipped people back "bigly" or that when a whole lot of kids came here, they were temporarily housed without common decency.
Did President Obama separate families at the border? Yes!
Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678 (2001). A undocumented alien must have a deportation adjudication within 6 mos of his detention.
Because of too many illegal immigrants and inadequate immigration court capacity (as well as detention facilities) the W admin initiated "catch and release"
The W admin also initiated policies of catch and detain (those really bad hombres) and catch and return.
The latter catch and return policy stems from "expedited removal." This stemmed from a 1996 or 7 law, but for practical purposes during W’s term we began dumping back over the border people held only 14 days or less and caught within 100 miles of the border. Anyone who gets this also gets a "bad mark" on their immigration record making it similar to a judicial deportation. An illegal immigrant may also seed "voluntary removal" which does not count as bad mark, but makes kicking them out even easier.
Sometime late in the W administration Homeland Sec said they’d ended catch and release because they’d eliminated the backlog. Some questioned the truthfulness of that claim as to the backlog, because illegal immigration has been an increasing problem
From the LA Times . High deportation figures are misleading
In 1992, immigration offenses accounted for 5% of federal convictions. In the subsequent two decades, the share of immigration cases on the federal docket increased sixfold, according to a 1. study by the Pew Research Center.
In 2012, immigration offenses made up 30% of federal convictions, second only to drug cases, which made up one-third.
The Rise of Federal Immigration Crimes
Enter Obama. Obama instituted policies of allocating resources to deporting even more of those "really bad hombres," and focusing on people caught within 100 miles of the border. This really ticked off Ole Jeff Beaurgard Sessions III, because if you made it to Colorado or some place, and especially if you had a job and were raising family, you had effectively made it "home free." ICE complained catch and release applied to everyone else, and probably with justification. But Obama’s deportation figures were thus far our "highwater mark." Facts are stubborn things.
Enter Trump. I have to admit I don’t really follow Trump’s policies because they are inconsistent. Kelly at HHS first announced they were ending catch and release and would jail kids. He got bad press. Trump reversed course, especially seeing that border crossings fell. That trend did not last, and he was given the forecast. Which he rejected. And border crossings are back to Obamayear levels. Unfortunately for Trump and Ole Jeff, law is not on their side.
A 1997 court settlement agreed to by the US government in a case called Flores v. Reno, which remains in effect today, requires the government to release children from immigration detention without unnecessary delay to, in order of preference, parents, other adult relatives or licensed programs willing to accept custody. If children cannot be released, Flores requires the government to hold them in the "least restrictive" setting available. The 2008 Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act, signed by President George W. Bush, codified parts of the settlement into federal law
The remarkable history of the family separation crisis - CNNPolitics
(Yes Trumpots, its CNN, and again, facts are stubborn creatures. The Flores consent decree was found legal by the Supreme Court after immigrant activists challenged it.)
See also
Opposition Grows to Trump's Policy of Separating Children From Families - The Atlantic
It seems to me that Trump says he has to have two things. 1) The Wall, which he lacks the votes for at this time. 2) An end to catch and release. The numbers of people the courts can process is finite. If Ole Jeff insists on arresting every illegal immigrant in the US, we’re gonna need a lot of chain link cages for kids. And I don’t see how that can be legal. But that may be Trump’s end game ... simply inflame the base over "the deep state."
Before Trump, kids who made it here, and weren’t given expedited removal with their families, were placed with relatives or foster care. Even if their parents were detained.
Conversely we could make it painfully illegal or any American, or legal resident, to rent housing to, or shelter, any illegal people. We could make it painfully illegal to provide any employment. And we could continue deporting people who had been here for awhile raising families. But give them hearings in six months of their arrests.
But that would not inflame the base.
Did President Obama separate families at the border? Yes!
Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678 (2001). A undocumented alien must have a deportation adjudication within 6 mos of his detention.
Because of too many illegal immigrants and inadequate immigration court capacity (as well as detention facilities) the W admin initiated "catch and release"
The W admin also initiated policies of catch and detain (those really bad hombres) and catch and return.
The latter catch and return policy stems from "expedited removal." This stemmed from a 1996 or 7 law, but for practical purposes during W’s term we began dumping back over the border people held only 14 days or less and caught within 100 miles of the border. Anyone who gets this also gets a "bad mark" on their immigration record making it similar to a judicial deportation. An illegal immigrant may also seed "voluntary removal" which does not count as bad mark, but makes kicking them out even easier.
Sometime late in the W administration Homeland Sec said they’d ended catch and release because they’d eliminated the backlog. Some questioned the truthfulness of that claim as to the backlog, because illegal immigration has been an increasing problem
From the LA Times . High deportation figures are misleading
In 1992, immigration offenses accounted for 5% of federal convictions. In the subsequent two decades, the share of immigration cases on the federal docket increased sixfold, according to a 1. study by the Pew Research Center.
In 2012, immigration offenses made up 30% of federal convictions, second only to drug cases, which made up one-third.
The Rise of Federal Immigration Crimes
Enter Obama. Obama instituted policies of allocating resources to deporting even more of those "really bad hombres," and focusing on people caught within 100 miles of the border. This really ticked off Ole Jeff Beaurgard Sessions III, because if you made it to Colorado or some place, and especially if you had a job and were raising family, you had effectively made it "home free." ICE complained catch and release applied to everyone else, and probably with justification. But Obama’s deportation figures were thus far our "highwater mark." Facts are stubborn things.
Enter Trump. I have to admit I don’t really follow Trump’s policies because they are inconsistent. Kelly at HHS first announced they were ending catch and release and would jail kids. He got bad press. Trump reversed course, especially seeing that border crossings fell. That trend did not last, and he was given the forecast. Which he rejected. And border crossings are back to Obamayear levels. Unfortunately for Trump and Ole Jeff, law is not on their side.
A 1997 court settlement agreed to by the US government in a case called Flores v. Reno, which remains in effect today, requires the government to release children from immigration detention without unnecessary delay to, in order of preference, parents, other adult relatives or licensed programs willing to accept custody. If children cannot be released, Flores requires the government to hold them in the "least restrictive" setting available. The 2008 Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act, signed by President George W. Bush, codified parts of the settlement into federal law
The remarkable history of the family separation crisis - CNNPolitics
(Yes Trumpots, its CNN, and again, facts are stubborn creatures. The Flores consent decree was found legal by the Supreme Court after immigrant activists challenged it.)
See also
Opposition Grows to Trump's Policy of Separating Children From Families - The Atlantic
It seems to me that Trump says he has to have two things. 1) The Wall, which he lacks the votes for at this time. 2) An end to catch and release. The numbers of people the courts can process is finite. If Ole Jeff insists on arresting every illegal immigrant in the US, we’re gonna need a lot of chain link cages for kids. And I don’t see how that can be legal. But that may be Trump’s end game ... simply inflame the base over "the deep state."
Before Trump, kids who made it here, and weren’t given expedited removal with their families, were placed with relatives or foster care. Even if their parents were detained.
Conversely we could make it painfully illegal or any American, or legal resident, to rent housing to, or shelter, any illegal people. We could make it painfully illegal to provide any employment. And we could continue deporting people who had been here for awhile raising families. But give them hearings in six months of their arrests.
But that would not inflame the base.
