If anyone ever tells you porn is not addictive, they are a liar!.

[Shattered]

Call me coldhearted but I don’t believe in this thing called “addiction”. Things that you do are based on choices that you make. If you don’t want to read porn, then don’t get porn. If you don’t want to smoke, don’t pick up a cigarette. If cigarettes are that tempting, make your hands into fists. It is difficult for fists to pick up cigarettes. Addictions are noting more than choices for the same think. Make a choice to not do the same thing and you will not be an addict to it. Nothing personal, but I think that “addiction” is just a wimpish cop-out – a simple lack of a making a true choice and sticking to it. It is lack of will power. The bottom line is that if you don’t want to continue doing something, then don’t do it!

I wouldn't call you cold-hearted.. I would call you an idiot..

Addictions are very real things.. Yes, you have the choice to pick up, or not pick up that very first potential vice.. But once you choose to pick it up again, and again, it becomes very real. Some people are addicted to smoking, some to drinking, some to drugs.. It takes more than sheer willpower to break a physical, or mental addiction.. Sometimes it takes losing what's most important to you, before it's enough to make you even stop and think there might be a problem.. Sometimes even that isn't enough to break the addiction..

 

[Chips Rafferty]

Porn made chips everything he is today. Just to think we could all be like him ....

What a shame your Fascist father wasn't into sexual ponn rather than Proddie porn.

You might have been a sperm saturated facial tissue that was flushed down the toilet to join all the other Texan turds - rather than having him genetically contaminating some poor woman's womb!

 

[Toro]

I'm not addicted to porn.

I am addicted to my computer, though.

And I need help!

 

[Sock Puppet]

Pornography directly leads to the objectification and dehumanization of women (and sometimes men). Pornography presents women as objects, sexualized means to gratification. Pornography is not about "sexuality", it has nothing to do with "sex" at all. Pornography is blatant and utter exploitation, plain and simple.

Men who view pornography do not limit the objectification to the woman on the screen/magazine, as though that wasn't bad enough. They take the image and apply it to all women: your sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, etc. Soon, the object becomes a woman at the office, a co-worker, friend, or neighbor. The object becomes you or someone you love.

Pornography's influence is not limited to where it is presented. Those who use it are changed by it. It becomes acceptable in their minds for them to treat all women in the way they see the women in the pornography. It becomes "okay" for them to view women as sexual objects. When men treat women as sexual objects, they do not relate to them on a human to human level. They begin to think it is all right for them to say things to them they would never say to a fellow human being. The respect, the camaraderie is lost.

It is not "okay" for men to view women as sexual objects. Pornography is not "okay". It has proliferated our media, our magazines, our internet, our television. And what about our children? They are seeing this too. Do we really want our children growing up in a world like this? How do you think the children would feel to know how men are viewing their mothers? Their teachers? Their friends? Is this really how we want our world, people?

 

[Kagom]

I have no problem with pornography. Why? Because I know what I like in a guy and what I don't like. I don't go by the looks of guys in porn or what the media tells me the ideal guy looks and acts like. Some people can't draw the line between such things and they in turn incur all that is said and held up as an example for such things that have been said in defense of being anti-porn. I don't objectify people because people aren't objects, they're humans. They're living, breathing, sentient beings.

 

[Chips Rafferty]

I have no problem with pornography. Why? Because I know what I like in a guy and what I don't like. I don't go by the looks of guys in porn or what the media tells me the ideal guy looks and acts like. Some people can't draw the line between such things and they in turn incur all that is said and held up as an example for such things that have been said in defense of being anti-porn. I don't objectify people because people aren't objects, they're humans. They're living, breathing, sentient beings.

When talking about pornography, never forget the old maxim, Kagom. 99% of people masturbate and the remaining 1% are fucking liars!

"...97...98....99...100!....change hands. O-w-o-o-o....I don't care if I DO go blind, my fathers an ophthalmologist!!"

 

[Kagom]

I hate talking to guys who claim they don't masturbate.

 

[Gunny]

What a shame your Fascist father wasn't into sexual ponn rather than Proddie porn.

You might have been a sperm saturated facial tissue that was flushed down the toilet to join all the other Texan turds - rather than having him genetically contaminating some poor woman's womb!

Hey Crocodile Fucker, my father wasn't the Texan. And the lowliest, trailer park, white trahs Texan stealing food stamps from the state is at least still a Texan ... a couple of notches ABOVE whatever it is you claim to be.

 

[mattskramer]

I wouldn't call you cold-hearted.. I would call you an idiot..

Addictions are very real things.. Yes, you have the choice to pick up, or not pick up that very first potential vice.. But once you choose to pick it up again, and again, it becomes very real. Some people are addicted to smoking, some to drinking, some to drugs.. It takes more than sheer willpower to break a physical, or mental addiction.. Sometimes it takes losing what's most important to you, before it's enough to make you even stop and think there might be a problem.. Sometimes even that isn't enough to break the addiction..

It all comes down do making a real choice and will power. Some people simply choose to not go through the pain and discomfort of breaking their bad habit / addiction / whatever.

 

[mattskramer]

I'm not addicted to porn.

I am addicted to my computer, though.

And I need help!

You don't need help. You need to make a dicision. Consider all of the fun you get out of using a computer. Then consider all of the time and opportunity wasted by using the computer. Consider whatever you lost by sticking with the computer. Does the please outweigh the pain and are you able to continue to function by continuing to keep your computer habit. If so, then stay with it. If you conclude that it causes more pain and loss, then break your computer addiction: turn your computer off and sell it. Then break the device that allowed you to connect your computer to the Internet. Make it difficult for yourself to get another computer to hook up. Go and do something else.

 

[Angel Heart]

You don't need help. You need to make a dicision. Consider all of the fun you get out of using a computer. Then consider all of the time and opportunity wasted by using the computer. Consider whatever you lost by sticking with the computer. Does the please outweigh the pain and are you able to continue to function by continuing to keep your computer habit. If so, then stay with it. If you conclude that it causes more pain and loss, then break your computer addiction: turn your computer off and sell it. Then break the device that allowed you to connect your computer to the Internet. Make it difficult for yourself to get another computer to hook up. Go and do something else.

It's not that easy.

If it's alcohol you're addicted to, you might need to have a Dr detox. It's an addiction that the withdraw can kill you when you're far enough down the addition path. Ever here of DT's? Delirium Tremens.

Maybe you should read up a bit on additions before you go spouting off this type of gibberish.

 

[mattskramer]

It's not that easy.

If it's alcohol you're addicted to, you might need to have a Dr detox. It's an addiction that the withdraw can kill you when you're far enough down the addition path. Ever here of DT's? Delirium Tremens.

Maybe you should read up a bit on additions before you go spouting off this type of gibberish.

I have not heard of “delirium tremens” so I read about it. Okay it is dangerous and can be fatal. My point still stands that it comes down to making a real decision. In some cases, one a decision is made, depending on the addiction, one may need to contact a doctor for assistance and guidance. Once can still break his habit / addiction.

 

[Angel Heart]

I have not heard of “delirium tremens” so I read about it. Okay it is dangerous and can be fatal. My point still stands that it comes down to making a real decision. In some cases, one a decision is made, depending on the addiction, one may need to contact a doctor for assistance and guidance. Once can still break his habit / addiction.

Yes one can brake the addiction but to act like it's as easy as changing ones mind, that's showing your lack of knowledge on the topic. If you where to talk with a few surviving cleaned up addicts, you might find how hard of a thing cleaning up is to do.

 

[ErikViking]

Erik Viking....I am assuming you are a swede and are doing the snus. My husband also used to use snus, I admit I am VERY glad he quit. I think he had a harder time quitting snus than I did quitting smoking!

Cool. Not many know about that outsider Sweden. I use the bags though. Since I am a diver smoking is out of the question. Ask him if he would like some grovsnus. Tell him: Carro tar guld i VM och biltullarna är igång igen.

 

[Chips Rafferty]

It all comes down do making a real choice and will power. Some people simply choose to not go through the pain and discomfort of breaking their bad habit / addiction / whatever.

Partially true.

However, you would be surprised how many addicts/drunks are truly convinced THEY are not addicted. Moreover, how many of their friends and acquaintances that tell them that they are not alcoholic, even during the worst of their drinking.

Simply put, alcoholics are people who are firmly convinced they can only function within what they see as an alien and hostile society if they can transform themselves into normal people with their magic ethylic elixir.

Many of whom you would regard as “decent” and “productive” pillars of society would have suicided if it weren’t for the crutch booze provided them.

These people belong to what A.A refers to as the “If you can’t smell ‘em you can’t tell ‘em brigade” of which, apparently, I was a member.

For instance, earlier in my sobriety I was part of an exclusive, closed group of A.A. that included an Admiral, a High Court Justice, a couple of Psychiatrists, and many other respected professional members of Melbourne's Establishment, (of which, I most definitely never was and never will be!) whose livelihood and reputations would have been ruined if the secret of their alcoholism was ever leaked.

It is only when the alcoholic begins to show signs that differentiate him from the rank and file tribal member that his social ostracisation starts. The drunk is like the talking pet Cockatoo that escapes and tries to rejoin his feral brothers - only to find they want to kill him because he is somehow different from their rigidly uniform flock.

Getting back to will power, if you could have seen the state I dragged myself to work each day toward the end of my drinking days, you’d have no doubt about an alkie’s will power!

(One of the things that really helped me very early into my sobriety was my sponsor saying, “Alcoholics have plenty of WILL power but not much WON’T power when it comes to booze&#8221

Yet to this day most of my mates, former supervisors, and staff refuse to believe I was what they would call an alcoholic – the family and friend-less, pissy-pants derelict sleeping under a bridge. Even so, 21 years after my last drink, I can be talking to a man/woman like this in very intimate terms, and empathising with them, within minutes of meeting them.

In fact, I’d rather talk to a skid-row drunk than to most of society’s synthetic people.

There is no need for artifice, subtlety, and falsehood – so indispensable to “decent” folk - when the arse is out of your piss-soaked pants.

 

[Ruby]

Cool. Not many know about that outsider Sweden. I use the bags though. Since I am a diver smoking is out of the question. Ask him if he would like some grovsnus. Tell him: Carro tar guld i VM och biltullarna är igång igen.

Min man vill inte ha grovsnus, han slutade snusa.

Man kan alltid ta nagon annans registreringsskyltar sa slipper man betala.... det gjorde nagon horde jag.

Jag bor i sverige nu.

Lycka till Carro!

Forlat, svenka tangentbord inte pa.

 

[ErikViking]

Min man vill inte ha grovsnus, han slutade snusa.

Man kan alltid ta nagon annans registreringsskyltar sa slipper man betala.... det gjorde nagon horde jag.

Jag bor i sverige nu.

Lycka till Carro!

Forlat, svenka tangentbord inte pa.

Okay, cool!

 

[Diuretic]

It's not that easy.

If it's alcohol you're addicted to, you might need to have a Dr detox. It's an addiction that the withdraw can kill you when you're far enough down the addition path. Ever here of DT's? Delirium Tremens.

Maybe you should read up a bit on additions before you go spouting off this type of gibberish.

Many years ago I had to go to the local hospital to help the staff restrain a patient who had DTs. He struggled a bit but the poor bugger wasn't very strong. I don't recall if the doctor sedated him, it was many years ago, but I do remember sitting with him and being part of his delusions. He was a barman in one of the local messes (this was in a town that serviced Australian military and US Air Force units). Poor bugger was acting out his delusions, thought he was at work and was miming pouring me a beer. He was a very good mime, must have had something to do with his delusions.

 

[Angel Heart]

Many years ago I had to go to the local hospital to help the staff restrain a patient who had DTs. He struggled a bit but the poor bugger wasn't very strong. I don't recall if the doctor sedated him, it was many years ago, but I do remember sitting with him and being part of his delusions. He was a barman in one of the local messes (this was in a town that serviced Australian military and US Air Force units). Poor bugger was acting out his delusions, thought he was at work and was miming pouring me a beer. He was a very good mime, must have had something to do with his delusions.

I've thankfully never seen it first hand. I've known a lot that made it through it though. Even more that used meds to avoid going through it. They put them into a coma till it passes.

 

[Nevadamedic]

When talking about pornography, never forget the old maxim, Kagom. 99% of people masturbate and the remaining 1% are fucking liars!

"...97...98....99...100!....change hands. O-w-o-o-o....I don't care if I DO go blind, my fathers an ophthalmologist!!"

When you get good you will be able to switch hands and be able to pick up a stroke!