If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing!! (Video was Censored)!!!

[Shogun]

easy. The same way America assimilated an entire population of blacks: create a single state of Palisrael and end the racist policies which alienate one ethnicity for the sake of the other. By maintaining a jewish standard all you do is let palis know that this is nothing more than an ethnic struggle in which they will fight just as hard as jews until one of you are exterminated. i don't see OUR blacks out destroying neighborhoods unless we as a society are dealing with obvious racial favoratism such as when rodney king's assailants were found not guilty despite the video evidence. Then, parts of cities burned. Does this make them terrorists? fuck no, it makes them human beings reacting to state based racism that kicks equality in the balls for the sake of favoring a dominant race. AS we see in israel today.

 

[Godboy]

easy. The same way America assimilated an entire population of blacks: create a single state of Palisrael and end the racist policies which alienate one ethnicity for the sake of the other.

This is your answer? To put the 2 most bitter enemies in the world in the same area with each other? How on earth would you expect that to work? People would massacre each other. In a hundred years, maybe it might be possible, but right now its absurd to think that would work.

If this is the only alternative to Israel bombing the crap out of them, i can understand why Israel is doing what they are doing.

i don't see OUR blacks out destroying neighborhoods unless we as a society are dealing with obvious racial favoratism such as when rodney king's assailants were found not guilty despite the video evidence.

Of course they destroy neighborhoods. The crime committed by inner city blacks, TOTALLY destroys neighborhoods. Do i need to even mention the gang graffiti all over the place?

...and Rodney Kings assailants had nothing to do with the riots. As black people marched in protest of that verdict, their numbers grew to a point where all control was lost to the police, at which piont they saw an opportunity to steal, and thats what they did. After the stealing got boring, they decided it would be fun to beat white people to death. Just ask Reginald Denny, he barely lived through it.

To say that they were stealing because they were upset over a verdict is kind of silly, dont you think? I mean, honestly, do you really think the guy pushing the shopping cart down the street full of stolen goods is thinking about Rodney King? His only concern is making sure the tv doesnt fall out of the cart as he makes his way to the nearest Shoe Locker.

The black people in LA destroyed everything because they were free to do it without getting in trouble. Ive seen the footage of the smiling black gang members running around, wreaking havoc. Those guys were not upset about aything, in fact, they were having the time of their lives.

The shameful actions of black people in LA should not be a reflection of black people in general, but it does show that the black culture in LA is deplorable, but i dont think thats any big secret. Black culture has terrible problems in pretty much every inner city area, because of fatherless children, over the top materialism, rampant crime and "no snitching" policies, to name a few.

 

[Working Man]

But if my house never existed how could you add on to it.

Olive groves that were hundreds of years old, owned by the same Palestinian family, were bulldozed up by Israel a few years ago. The family who owned the land, and farmed it, had not been a problem to Israeli people. Despite pleas and protest, the land was turned into housing for displaced Jews and "a buffer zone".

 

[toomuchtime_]

Olive groves that were hundreds of years old, owned by the same Palestinian family, were bulldozed up by Israel a few years ago. The family who owned the land, and farmed it, had not been a problem to Israeli people. Despite pleas and protest, the land was turned into housing for displaced Jews and "a buffer zone".

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I think you are mistaken. The land may have been taken to build roads or it may have be taken to build the fence or other security assets, but all the land on which settlement expansion has taken place in recent years was taken over twenty years ago. The buildings may not have gone up at that time, but the owners would have been notified that the land was being taken by the state and under Israeli law, they had to be offered fair market value for their land and they had to be given the opportunity to oppose the loss of the land/the amount of compensation in court. If you follow the news in Israel, you know that Israeli courts have frequently found in favor of the Palestinians who protested the seizures, even when it was being sought by the IDF, as in the many cases in which the courts ordered the IDF to reroute the fence because of the, the court found, avoidable hardships the proposed route would have imposed on the Palestinians involved.

The process Israel uses in such cases, and even the principle of law, is exactly the same as that used by US cities when they seize people's homes for the purpose of urban renewal. Most often the homes and businesses seized are owned by poor minorities and until very recently the people who moved into the new units were nearly always more prosperous white people. Just as charges of ethnic discrimination are brought against Israeli by the Palestinians, lawsuits have been brought against urban renewal seizures claiming racial discrimination here in the US, and this does not just happen in the US and Israel, it also happens in cities all over Europe and everywhere the courts rarely find for the claimant who charge discrimination or even hardship. In fact, one of the most famous and most highly lauded public works projects in American history, the Tennessee Valley Authority, required flooding a valley which contained the traditional communities of thousands of people, and all these thousands of homes, farms and several towns were seized and destroyed in the process, and the people who benefited from the electricity produced, for the most part,were not the people who had lost their properties and communities.

The point is that while we could argue about whether this process is right or wrong - I think it is often wrong - it is exactly the same as when property is seized in US and European cities and the complaints about it are exactly the same, too, and if anything, Israeli courts in recent years have been more sensitive to the complaints of the Palestinians than US courts have been to complaints here about such seizures.

 

[auditor0007]

would you say the same thing if I came to your house and decided to carve my home out of your bedroom, bathroom, garage and living room? And then beat your family into a pulp every time you tried to assert your property rights?

even if I had lived in your house 20 years ago?

Trying to rewrite history again Shogun? Arab refugees became refugees when they chose to leave their homes so the Arabs could wage war on the Jews. They lost, and were not allowed to return. Their tough fuckin luck. They should have stayed and fought beside the Jews to keep what was theirs. But they wanted it all and lost. Sorry ass losers, and now they want it back? Fuck them.

It doesn't matter where Muslims are, they are the cause of most of the world's troubles. Piss on em until they change. If they don't change, keep pissing on them.

 

[auditor0007]

Olive groves that were hundreds of years old, owned by the same Palestinian family, were bulldozed up by Israel a few years ago. The family who owned the land, and farmed it, had not been a problem to Israeli people. Despite pleas and protest, the land was turned into housing for displaced Jews and "a buffer zone".

Here in the US, it's done under laws of eminent domain. Governments do what they must.

 

[mash107]

Here in the US, it's done under laws of eminent domain. Governments do what they must.

Under the Constitution Bill of Rights, Amendment 5 says, no private property can be taken for public use. When governments do what they want, without regard for the people they govern, it's called fascism or socialism, in my book.

 

[mash107]

Trying to rewrite history again Shogun? Arab refugees became refugees when they chose to leave their homes so the Arabs could wage war on the Jews. They lost, and were not allowed to return. Their tough fuckin luck. They should have stayed and fought beside the Jews to keep what was theirs. But they wanted it all and lost. Sorry ass losers, and now they want it back? Fuck them.

It doesn't matter where Muslims are, they are the cause of most of the world's troubles. Piss on em until they change. If they don't change, keep pissing on them.

Again, I'm tired of your revisionist bullshit.. from the well documented libertarian editorial:

Look how much land, in 1944, Arabs owned more than Jewish people. Are you saying the all left, freely, because they wanted Jews to be "pushed in the sea" even though they had been living relatively peacefully with them until Zionist terrorists showed up?

Well, again, they were forced out by the extremist few that didn't want to live with Arabs:

"On April 9, 1948, 254 unarmed men, women, and children at Deir Yassin, an Arab village west of Jerusalem, were massacred by Zionist terrorists. Most of the mutilated bodies were thrown down a well, while others were scattered about the village. While the attack was spearheaded by Begin’s Irgun Zvai Leumi and the frankly fascist Stern gang, the commander of the Haganah approved the attack, although Ben-Gurion’s party attempted to exculpate itself from blame. According to Begin, the attackers used “large numbers of hand-grenades,” and the civilians “suffered inevitable casualties.” Deir Yassin was “the first Arab village to be captured by Jewish forces,” leading the Arabs to expect genocide at the hands of the Zionists.

Panic overwhelmed the Arabs of Eretz Israel.... Arabs throughout the country, induced to believe wild tales [sic] of “Irgun butchery,” were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives. This mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable stampede.31

In Jerusalem, Zionist soldiers paraded a few bloodstained Deir Yassin survivors through the streets, and in Haifa Zionist loudspeakers warned the Arabs of more Deir Yassins. “All the Jewish forces proceeded to advance through Haifa like a knife through butter. The Arabs began fleeing in panic, shouting: ÔDeir Yassin!’“32 Sixty thousand Arabs fled Haifa, and almost all of Jaffa’s Arab population of a hundred thousand evaporated. Almost 900 villages and five million dunums of land were abandoned as some three-quarters of a million Arabs fled Jewish, Arab, and British armies alike. “The greater part of the agricultural land was in the hands of these villagers.”33

In mid May 1948, when Israel proclaimed its existence as a state, Jews were still less than one-third of the population of Palestine. Jewish land-ownership, as a result of the expulsion of the Arabs, jumped from nearly 7% of Palestine to 79%; thus it was military force, rather than a half century of land purchases (largely from Arab absentee landowners), that was the primary method by which the land of Palestine became the land of Israel."

Reference: The Alienation of a Homeland: How Palestine Became Israel
Steven Halbrook, George Mason University.

 

[AmericaFirst]

Trying to rewrite history again Shogun? Arab refugees became refugees when they chose to leave their homes so the Arabs could wage war on the Jews. They lost, and were not allowed to return. Their tough fuckin luck. They should have stayed and fought beside the Jews to keep what was theirs. But they wanted it all and lost. Sorry ass losers, and now they want it back? Fuck them.

It doesn't matter where Muslims are, they are the cause of most of the world's troubles. Piss on em until they change. If they don't change, keep pissing on them.

So how much does AIPAC pay you to lie?