Ideas to solve unemployment

[kostovski]

Here is my suggestion to help the unemployment and homeless problem.

Give an incentive for people to help people.

If a person or company hires or otherwise helps find employment for an unemployed or homeless person they will receive that persons federal income tax for the next five years for which that person is employed, rather then the IRS. Also any State can forgo their income tax.

If person helps an unemployed or homeless person start a business the same applies.

If an unemployed person starts his own business and hires unemployed or homeless people he gets the same benefit.
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The government gains by not having to pay unemployment insurance and they will indirectly increase tax revenue from the purchasing power of the newly employed.

This will stop the unemployment insurance bleeding and increase the size of GDP.

The program should continue until unemployment numbers are at reasonable levels.

If someone quits their job, they are not eligible.

What is your idea?

 

[editec]

What's my idea?

End these goofy FREE TRADE policies and start from the [presumption that the purpose of having government is to help the PEOPLE of a nation, not international corporations.

Do that and many of our other problems will cease to be a problem in the longer run.

Fail to do that and nothing we do will really work in the long run.

 

[antagon]

make hourly wages expensible $2, maybe $3/hr.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

make hourly wages expensible $2, maybe $3/hr.

What does expensible mean? Are you going to work for $2 an hour - an apple each for dinner

 

[antagon]

expensible means that an employer could deduct the expensible item from their tax liability. jobs will pay, say, $10 per hour, but after taxes, the wage component will flush to $7, if $3 was expensible.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Here is my suggestion to help the unemployment and homeless problem.

Give an incentive for people to help people.

If a person or company hires or otherwise helps find employment for an unemployed or homeless person they will receive that persons federal income tax for the next five years for which that person is employed, rather then the IRS. Also any State can forgo their income tax.

If person helps an unemployed or homeless person start a business the same applies.

If an unemployed person starts his own business and hires unemployed or homeless people he gets the same benefit.
.
The government gains by not having to pay unemployment insurance and they will indirectly increase tax revenue from the purchasing power of the newly employed.

This will stop the unemployment insurance bleeding and increase the size of GDP.

The program should continue until unemployment numbers are at reasonable levels.

If someone quits their job, they are not eligible.

What is your idea?

Why would I hire someone and pay for example 500 a week only to receive 25% of it back as an incentive?

Seems to me I would have spent 75% more than i should have.

 

[antagon]

i dont think the kostovski plan is all that brilliant, but 25% of labor costs is a big deal to me. i would imagine such would be the same for many other employers.

i propose hitting the whole labor pool with similar subsidy, not just the unemployed. obviously endowing only the unemployed would create problems with incumbent employees.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Stop buying the cheapest item you can find.
Nothing will solve unemployment in America faster or better than a consumer base that is informed where and how the products they buy are made.

 

[loosecannon]

i dont think the kostovski plan is all that brilliant, but 25% of labor costs is a big deal to me. i would imagine such would be the same for many other employers.

i propose hitting the whole labor pool with similar subsidy, not just the unemployed. obviously endowing only the unemployed would create problems with incumbent employees.

This is a great idea. Which is why it will never be realized!

 

[antagon]

many american-made products dont have a cost-benefit to wield over chinese-made products. that is a fact that people need to deal with in considering actual solutions. lots of americans like myself have a thing for american cars and trucks, but new ones are less and less american-made. less and less dewalts are american. a wish and a prayer that folks would be patriotic at the store is a non-solution. there are real reasons consumers and manufacturers make the decisions they do and without addressing them there's not going to be any real change.

 

[antagon]

i dont think the kostovski plan is all that brilliant, but 25% of labor costs is a big deal to me. i would imagine such would be the same for many other employers.

i propose hitting the whole labor pool with similar subsidy, not just the unemployed. obviously endowing only the unemployed would create problems with incumbent employees.

This is a great idea. Which is why it will never be realized!

that concept of yours makes it seem like no other good ideas have ever been realized. what makes this difficult is that it will require an omnibus labor/entitlement policy to be plausible.

 

[loosecannon]

That's very unpatriotic and disempowering Antagon.

China is only achieving a standard of quality that is appealing because we supported their growth in 3 distinct ways. Now they have revealed a nationalist intention to disregard the "rules" of globalization.

If we can take our market back, if we can re establish our own manufacturing base, if we can counter their protectionism with our own we should.

Every dollar that we spend on American goods circulates back thru our own economy creating many more jobs. The immediate savings on foreign are an illusion. The aggregate cost to our nation of buying foreign goods for an immediate discount are difficult to see much cost us much more than we realize.

 

[loosecannon]

i dont think the kostovski plan is all that brilliant, but 25% of labor costs is a big deal to me. i would imagine such would be the same for many other employers.

i propose hitting the whole labor pool with similar subsidy, not just the unemployed. obviously endowing only the unemployed would create problems with incumbent employees.

This is a great idea. Which is why it will never be realized!

that concept of yours makes it seem like no other good ideas have ever been realized. what makes this difficult is that it will require an omnibus labor/entitlement policy to be plausible.

it would take a paradigm shift in a climate when all discussion is in volley between tax cuts and deficit cuts.

 

[Granny]

Well, laying a 90% tax rate on the Big Bad Businesses is sure as hell not going to solve the problem. They wouldn't be doing much hiring with a 10% budget on hiring, expansion, supplies, benefits, materials, utilities, and everything else that falls under "running a business."

My suggestion would be to get the government the hell out of business; get rid of unions. Under the current economic/job situation employers are going to be very wary of doing a lot of hiring.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

many american-made products dont have a cost-benefit to wield over chinese-made products. that is a fact that people need to deal with in considering actual solutions. lots of americans like myself have a thing for american cars and trucks, but new ones are less and less american-made. less and less dewalts are american. a wish and a prayer that folks would be patriotic at the store is a non-solution. there are real reasons consumers and manufacturers make the decisions they do and without addressing them there's not going to be any real change.

It isn't about patriotism.
I am not saying everyone should go out and buy American only.
What I am saying is the American consumer, largely due to "the Wal-Mart effect" no longer understand what "value" is.
Value in the mind of an average consumer is price. And that is pretty much it.
And anyone who has ever ran a business knows the fastest and easiest way to cut expenses is through reducing labor costs. And when you have a consumer base that is hellbent on buying what is the lowest price far and above any other factor?
You get what you pay for: A product that is made with the cheapest/fewest employees possible.

 

[rdean]

Here is my suggestion to help the unemployment and homeless problem.

Give an incentive for people to help people.

If a person or company hires or otherwise helps find employment for an unemployed or homeless person they will receive that persons federal income tax for the next five years for which that person is employed, rather then the IRS. Also any State can forgo their income tax.

If person helps an unemployed or homeless person start a business the same applies.

If an unemployed person starts his own business and hires unemployed or homeless people he gets the same benefit.
.
The government gains by not having to pay unemployment insurance and they will indirectly increase tax revenue from the purchasing power of the newly employed.

This will stop the unemployment insurance bleeding and increase the size of GDP.

The program should continue until unemployment numbers are at reasonable levels.

If someone quits their job, they are not eligible.

What is your idea?

What you are describing are "what ifs".

For one, people who quit their jobs are not eligible for unemployment now.

Second, what kind of job? What is the job? Making what? Doing what?

People only hire when there is demand. If only the top 1% have all the money, they will be the only ones buying anything. If people don't buy, then there is no "demand", hence, no "jobs". If no one is working, who cares about "taxes"?

People fail to look at the big picture.

For instance, how many times have those on the right said, "Why build a bridge? After all, when the bridge is finished, then those people stop working". When you try to explain how that bridge now connects three communities, meaning commerce, meaning jobs, their little eyes go all glazie and they call you a "communist socialist".

It's difficult seeing the big picture when you are used to relying on "slogans" and "sound bytes".

 

[psikeyhackr]

The problem isn't unemployment the problem is lack of wealth.

How do we decide who owns the land and how did they get it?

The economic wargame is a continuation of the military wargame by other means.

Firing all of the economists would be a good start though.

psik

 

[Sallow]

Well, laying a 90% tax rate on the Big Bad Businesses is sure as hell not going to solve the problem. They wouldn't be doing much hiring with a 10% budget on hiring, expansion, supplies, benefits, materials, utilities, and everything else that falls under "running a business."

My suggestion would be to get the government the hell out of business; get rid of unions. Under the current economic/job situation employers are going to be very wary of doing a lot of hiring.

How do you get the government "out of business" and get rid of "unions"? Who's going to get rid of the Unions?

Why don't you post the conservative mantra..

"Have government back our corporatist overlords."

At least that would be honest.

You guys have no concern for people that are struggling.

None.

Even if it's yourself.

You think its a fucking lottery to get rich in this country. It ain't.

 

[FactFinder]

A radical idea.

Freeze all current stocks at their present price. They can go down if selling but not up.

The only investments allowed to float would be either businesses doing expansion/hiring, entrepenurial new ventures or those involved in serious research and development. Penalize any stocks that moved operations overseas with higher rates of capital gains taxes.

 

[code1211]

many american-made products dont have a cost-benefit to wield over chinese-made products. that is a fact that people need to deal with in considering actual solutions. lots of americans like myself have a thing for american cars and trucks, but new ones are less and less american-made. less and less dewalts are american. a wish and a prayer that folks would be patriotic at the store is a non-solution. there are real reasons consumers and manufacturers make the decisions they do and without addressing them there's not going to be any real change.

It isn't about patriotism.
I am not saying everyone should go out and buy American only.
What I am saying is the American consumer, largely due to "the Wal-Mart effect" no longer understand what "value" is.
Value in the mind of an average consumer is price. And that is pretty much it.
And anyone who has ever ran a business knows the fastest and easiest way to cut expenses is through reducing labor costs. And when you have a consumer base that is hellbent on buying what is the lowest price far and above any other factor?
You get what you pay for: A product that is made with the cheapest/fewest employees possible.

You don't credit the american people with much smarts, do you?

Value is an extremely personal cost/benifit ratio that all of perform all the time. If it on Wheaties, for instance, Wheaties is Wheaties whereever you buy it. If it's 20% less at WalMart, then why shop at the +20% place?

Hondas are assembled in Indiana with parts maunufactured in Indiana. If I plan to buy American, an I buying a Honda or a Buick? What percent of parts and labor must be in a car for it to be American made?

Value in a sweater for a kid who will outgrow it in six months is a sweater that will last six months. Will he need a sweater that will last 10 years? Same with shoes for that kid.

You need to flush the ideas you cling to regarding world competition. Don't think protectionism. Think killer app. When the computer revolution hit, that was a killer app that was applied to every individual and business in American and then the world.

The best recipe for never competing successfully with the Chinese is to decide that the ways of doing things that led to decline in the market place is the only way to do things. Figure out what needs to be done to win and do it. Right now, all you recomend is to double down on what we know will not work and then stick with it.

The Brits could not compete with Ford so they did Rolls. The Germans did Volkswagon. The Japs did Datsun and Honda and Toyota. By studying what drove the sucess of these companies, the USA reinvented their manufacturing.

Harley Davidson did not decide to continue down the drain. They changed and updated and improved. Why do you think that the jig is up for America? Americans love a good fight and this is exactly what we are heading into right now.

You seem to be recomending that we simply roll up the tents. I would suggest that we roll up our sleeves.