ICE Forcibly Removes Woman Waiting for Emergency Brain Surgery Form Hospital

[keepitreal]

Hmmm, I'm curious...
How can the consequences of my choices,
be blamed on those who are well off?

How do you justify holding someone else accountable
for my choices, I alone, am responsible for?

You seem to want to. you realy believe deporting this sick woman is going to make your miserable, sad, failed life better.

And, I am not poor asshole!
Not being well off or living comfortably,
doesn't mean people are entitled to handouts
because they don't want to sacrifice...

You said you make less than $11.00 an hour. And you can't get your teeth fixed. You are confused poor.

Last time I made 11 bucks an hour, it was 1996. and even then I knew I wasn't near my potential.

Lol, dumb white trash..
I'm sorry dear, but in order for you to insult me,
I must first value your opinion. Nice try though.

Yeah, it's the church's fault
for the pathetic sea of human complacency,....
too much of an inconvenience to be inconvenienced

Churches are run by the rich to keep the stupids complancent. They've done a fine job in your case where you are working for 10.99 an hour and can't get your teeth fixed, but you live in horror someone making less than that qualifies for Medicaid.

Hmmm, I'm curious...
How can the consequences of my choices,
be blamed on those who are well off?

How do you justify holding someone else accountable
for my choices, I alone, am responsible for?

You seem to want to. you realy believe deporting this sick woman is going to make your miserable, sad, failed life better.

I seem to want to?
How so?...you're the one who implied that my life
is the result of rich people screwing me...remember
The problem wasn't with non working poor but, with rich people.

Let me make this perfectly clear, being that, once again,
you are the one dazed and confused, not I, as you like to claim...

whether or not this woman is deported,
will have absolutely no bearing on my life, whatsoever!

I've never stated as such, let alone, believed as much!
Those are your words and assessment, not mine!

Furthermore, my life is not miserable, sad or a failure!

You say this, why,....because according to you, I'm poor.
So, you regard the poor and less fortunate,
as miserable, sad, failures because of their status quo!?

Possessions do not define my value, anymore than,
what I lack or don't have access to, defines my worth.
My treasures are priceless and can not be bought!

The American dream has become distorted.
The American dream isn't an entitlement to have what you don't
The American dream is the opportunity to obtain what you desire

Just because you'd rather be in America
doesn't mean you're exempt from our immigration laws,
because you've been here illegally for 10, 15, 20 years now anyway,
and, just because you feel you're entitled to be here, regardless of our laws
and then have the audacity to protest when we begin enforcing our laws!

This shouldn't have been in limbo as long as it has...
If a judge already refused her asylum request,
she shouldn't have been allowed to file an appeal,
and drag her case out, she should have been shipped out!

She should receive the necessary medical treatment,
then be deported and sent back to her country immediately!

We should also begin enforcing sponsors to fulfill their obligations,
as an immigrants designated provider that they agreed to and signed off on!

And, I am not poor asshole!
Not being well off or living comfortably,
doesn't mean people are entitled to handouts
because they don't want to sacrifice..

You said you make less than $11.00 an hour. And you can't get your teeth fixed. You are confused poor.

Last time I made 11 bucks an hour, it was 1996. and even then I knew I wasn't near my potential.

Well then, in 1996 I was making $3.60 more than you.
I have 23 years vested in local 881, in 1996 I was 13 yrs in.
I worked for a union comp, earned a decent wage,
paid holidays, birthday pay, 9 wks paid vacation,
paid personal and sick days, time and a half on Sundays,
and had excellent medical, dental and vision insurance

In 2006, I took a company offered buy out,
which couldn't have come at a better time,
to care for my father who was given 3 months to live

My 3 siblings all have excellent jobs, earning 6 figure salaries.
Not one of them, took a day off work to help, nor did I ask
They stopped by on the weekends, when they were off....
in-between errands and shopping that had to wait til the weekend

But, when my father passed away,
all 3 of them took 2 days off for his wake and funeral.
I didn't attend either, I chose to stay home....

I was with him while he was still alive, til the end...
not after he was dead and it didn't fucking matter.

My sister and brother haven't watched their boys growing up,
they've seen the years fly by and the boys getting older.
My other sister waited too long to settle down and have kids.

Yeah, they all have expensive tastes,
and possessions indicative of a successful life...

beautiful homes with overpriced, name brand
top of the line, furniture, furnishings, fixtures and appliances,
nice cars, the latest technology gadgets, lengthy cruises
and vacation get aways, hearty bank accounts, wanting for nothing....

But, at what cost?

You can not buy back lost time,
milestones, togetherness,
little league games you missed,
field trips you didn't chaperone,
walks to the park you were too tired to take,
games you were too busy to play,
scraped knees you weren't there to kiss,
tears you weren't able to wipe away,
bedtime stories you didn't read,
goodnight kisses you weren't there to give,
couches that weren't jumped on or turned into a fortress,
memories not made, the chance to have children
or nights your wife couldn't fall asleep in your arms...

I don't own a home, a car or have secured credit cards
I'm free from the stress, responsibility, obligation and debt of them.

I had the luxury of raising my son.
I didn't work him into my schedule,
I worked my schedule around him.

I have the luxury to work part time at min wage,
because I am not working to maintain a lifestyle.

The value of everything you own is worthless
when weighed against the value of it's true cost.
I can buy everything they have, using money,
Their combined incomes, couldn't buy what I have.

I am neither confused nor poor...

What I value has real worth, not what I own

Lol, dumb white trash..
I'm sorry dear, but in order for you to insult me,
I must first value your opinion. Nice try though.

Yeah, it's the church's fault
for the pathetic sea of human complacency,....
too much of an inconvenience to be inconvenienc

Churches are run by the rich to keep the stupids complancent. They've done a fine job in your case where you are working for 10.99 an hour and can't get your teeth fixed, but you live in horror someone making less than that qualifies for Medicaid.

Holy cow...does your train of thought have a caboose?

I don't go to church, religion has nothing to fucking do with
how much I make an hour or being unable to get my teeth fixed.

I am not easily manipulated, let alone,
a weak target that can be easily brainwashed!
That's you mother fuckers...fucking zombies!

I don't live in horror, drama queen...
I believe holding people accountable creates responsibility,

I believe not allowing consequences, increases irresponsibility

I believe not allowing people to make hard choices,
prevents them from making better choices

I believe hand outs increase dependency, not encourages self sufficiency

I am amazed, that out of hundreds of thousands of sperm cells....
you happened to be the fastest!

 

[JoeB131]

I'm not drilling through all your sad drivel. So I'll just mock the fun parts...

whether or not this woman is deported,
will have absolutely no bearing on my life, whatsoever!

But you seem awfully keen on it.

Furthermore, my life is not miserable, sad or a failure!

Yes, yes, it is.

You say this, why,....because according to you, I'm poor.
So, you regard the poor and less fortunate,
as miserable, sad, failures because of their status quo!?

I consider that we've failed many of our citizens as a country. The problem is you've had the fantastic advantage of being born white and in a union, and you still managed to fuck it up.

Well then, in 1996 I was making $3.60 more than you.
I have 23 years vested in local 881, in 1996 I was 13 yrs in.
I worked for a union comp, earned a decent wage,
paid holidays, birthday pay, 9 wks paid vacation,
paid personal and sick days, time and a half on Sundays,
and had excellent medical, dental and vision insurance

And this is why you are stupid. The One Percent have been slowly taking stuff away from you, where even being in a union (the last resort of the otherwise useless with no talents) isn't helping you all that much. and who do you want to blame for your problems? Yup. Poor people.

 

[keepitreal]

I'm not drilling through all your sad drivel. So I'll just mock the fun parts...

whether or not this woman is deported,
will have absolutely no bearing on my life, whatsoever!

But you seem awfully keen on it.

Furthermore, my life is not miserable, sad or a failure!

Yes, yes, it is.

You say this, why,....because according to you, I'm poor.
So, you regard the poor and less fortunate,
as miserable, sad, failures because of their status quo!?

I consider that we've failed many of our citizens as a country. The problem is you've had the fantastic advantage of being born white and in a union, and you still managed to fuck it up.

Well then, in 1996 I was making $3.60 more than you.
I have 23 years vested in local 881, in 1996 I was 13 yrs in.
I worked for a union comp, earned a decent wage,
paid holidays, birthday pay, 9 wks paid vacation,
paid personal and sick days, time and a half on Sundays,
and had excellent medical, dental and vision insurance

And this is why you are stupid. The One Percent have been slowly taking stuff away from you, where even being in a union (the last resort of the otherwise useless with no talents) isn't helping you all that much. and who do you want to blame for your problems? Yup. Poor people.

Furthermore, my life is not miserable, sad or a failure!

Yes, yes, it is.

It definitely is not...but, if you say so,
you are entitled to your opinion, as am I.

Opinions are like assholes... everybody has one!

You say this, why,....because according to you, I'm poor.
So, you regard the poor and less fortunate,
as miserable, sad, failures because of their status quo!?

I consider that we've failed many of our citizens as a country. The problem is you've had the fantastic advantage of being born white and in a union, and you still managed to fuck it up.

I agree with you there...
As a country, we have failed many of our citizens

I consider being a hard worker has advantages!
Unions are definitely not what they used to be...

Umm, what did I manage to fuck up?

Well then, in 1996 I was making $3.60 more than you.
I have 23 years vested in local 881, in 1996 I was 13 yrs in.
I worked for a union comp, earned a decent wage,
paid holidays, birthday pay, 9 wks paid vacation,
paid personal and sick days, time and a half on Sundays,
and had excellent medical, dental and vision

And this is why you are stupid. The One Percent have been slowly taking stuff away from you, where even being in a union (the last resort of the otherwise useless with no talents) isn't helping you all that much. and who do you want to blame for your problems? Yup. Poor

Ummm, I think you missed or misunderstood...

In 2006, I took a company offered buy out,
which couldn't have come at a better time,
to care for my father who was given 3 months to live

Nothing was taken from me...
I worked for Dominick's Finer Foods,
which I'm sure you're familiar with.

I took a buy out to care for my father who was dying.
They bought out my contract, I resigned
I knew the company was doomed anyway...
I gave it 10 years, it only took 8

I don't blame poor people for my problems
You came up with that.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Tough.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

I'd like to sit on that jury.

I wonder what she'd think when I gave her the finger after we told her to have fun back in her own country ?

 

[pwjohn]

Hmmm, I'm curious...
How can the consequences of my choices,
be blamed on those who are well off?

How do you justify holding someone else accountable
for my choices, I alone, am responsible for?

You seem to want to. you realy believe deporting this sick woman is going to make your miserable, sad, failed life better.

And, I am not poor asshole!
Not being well off or living comfortably,
doesn't mean people are entitled to handouts
because they don't want to sacrifice...

You said you make less than $11.00 an hour. And you can't get your teeth fixed. You are confused poor.

Last time I made 11 bucks an hour, it was 1996. and even then I knew I wasn't near my potential.

Lol, dumb white trash..
I'm sorry dear, but in order for you to insult me,
I must first value your opinion. Nice try though.

Yeah, it's the church's fault
for the pathetic sea of human complacency,....
too much of an inconvenience to be inconvenienced

Churches are run by the rich to keep the stupids complancent. They've done a fine job in your case where you are working for 10.99 an hour and can't get your teeth fixed, but you live in horror someone making less than that qualifies for Medicaid.

Hmmm, I'm curious...
How can the consequences of my choices,
be blamed on those who are well off?

How do you justify holding someone else accountable
for my choices, I alone, am responsible for?

You seem to want to. you realy believe deporting this sick woman is going to make your miserable, sad, failed life better.

I seem to want to?
How so?...you're the one who implied that my life
is the result of rich people screwing me...remember
The problem wasn't with non working poor but, with rich people.

Let me make this perfectly clear, being that, once again,
you are the one dazed and confused, not I, as you like to claim...

whether or not this woman is deported,
will have absolutely no bearing on my life, whatsoever!

I've never stated as such, let alone, believed as much!
Those are your words and assessment, not mine!

Furthermore, my life is not miserable, sad or a failure!

You say this, why,....because according to you, I'm poor.
So, you regard the poor and less fortunate,
as miserable, sad, failures because of their status quo!?

Possessions do not define my value, anymore than,
what I lack or don't have access to, defines my worth.
My treasures are priceless and can not be bought!

The American dream has become distorted.
The American dream isn't an entitlement to have what you don't
The American dream is the opportunity to obtain what you desire

Just because you'd rather be in America
doesn't mean you're exempt from our immigration laws,
because you've been here illegally for 10, 15, 20 years now anyway,
and, just because you feel you're entitled to be here, regardless of our laws
and then have the audacity to protest when we begin enforcing our laws!

This shouldn't have been in limbo as long as it has...
If a judge already refused her asylum request,
she shouldn't have been allowed to file an appeal,
and drag her case out, she should have been shipped out!

She should receive the necessary medical treatment,
then be deported and sent back to her country immediately!

We should also begin enforcing sponsors to fulfill their obligations,
as an immigrants designated provider that they agreed to and signed off on!

And, I am not poor asshole!
Not being well off or living comfortably,
doesn't mean people are entitled to handouts
because they don't want to sacrifice..

You said you make less than $11.00 an hour. And you can't get your teeth fixed. You are confused poor.

Last time I made 11 bucks an hour, it was 1996. and even then I knew I wasn't near my potential.

Well then, in 1996 I was making $3.60 more than you.
I have 23 years vested in local 881, in 1996 I was 13 yrs in.
I worked for a union comp, earned a decent wage,
paid holidays, birthday pay, 9 wks paid vacation,
paid personal and sick days, time and a half on Sundays,
and had excellent medical, dental and vision insurance

In 2006, I took a company offered buy out,
which couldn't have come at a better time,
to care for my father who was given 3 months to live

My 3 siblings all have excellent jobs, earning 6 figure salaries.
Not one of them, took a day off work to help, nor did I ask
They stopped by on the weekends, when they were off....
in-between errands and shopping that had to wait til the weekend

But, when my father passed away,
all 3 of them took 2 days off for his wake and funeral.
I didn't attend either, I chose to stay home....

I was with him while he was still alive, til the end...
not after he was dead and it didn't fucking matter.

My sister and brother haven't watched their boys growing up,
they've seen the years fly by and the boys getting older.
My other sister waited too long to settle down and have kids.

Yeah, they all have expensive tastes,
and possessions indicative of a successful life...

beautiful homes with overpriced, name brand
top of the line, furniture, furnishings, fixtures and appliances,
nice cars, the latest technology gadgets, lengthy cruises
and vacation get aways, hearty bank accounts, wanting for nothing....

But, at what cost?

You can not buy back lost time,
milestones, togetherness,
little league games you missed,
field trips you didn't chaperone,
walks to the park you were too tired to take,
games you were too busy to play,
scraped knees you weren't there to kiss,
tears you weren't able to wipe away,
bedtime stories you didn't read,
goodnight kisses you weren't there to give,
couches that weren't jumped on or turned into a fortress,
memories not made, the chance to have children
or nights your wife couldn't fall asleep in your arms...

I don't own a home, a car or have secured credit cards
I'm free from the stress, responsibility, obligation and debt of them.

I had the luxury of raising my son.
I didn't work him into my schedule,
I worked my schedule around him.

I have the luxury to work part time at min wage,
because I am not working to maintain a lifestyle.

The value of everything you own is worthless
when weighed against the value of it's true cost.
I can buy everything they have, using money,
Their combined incomes, couldn't buy what I have.

I am neither confused nor poor...

What I value has real worth, not what I own

Lol, dumb white trash..
I'm sorry dear, but in order for you to insult me,
I must first value your opinion. Nice try though.

Yeah, it's the church's fault
for the pathetic sea of human complacency,....
too much of an inconvenience to be inconvenienc

Churches are run by the rich to keep the stupids complancent. They've done a fine job in your case where you are working for 10.99 an hour and can't get your teeth fixed, but you live in horror someone making less than that qualifies for Medicaid.

Holy cow...does your train of thought have a caboose?

I don't go to church, religion has nothing to fucking do with
how much I make an hour or being unable to get my teeth fixed.

I am not easily manipulated, let alone,
a weak target that can be easily brainwashed!
That's you mother fuckers...fucking zombies!

I don't live in horror, drama queen...
I believe holding people accountable creates responsibility,

I believe not allowing consequences, increases irresponsibility

I believe not allowing people to make hard choices,
prevents them from making better choices

I believe hand outs increase dependency, not encourages self sufficiency

I am amazed, that out of hundreds of thousands of sperm cells....
you happened to be the fastest!

The fastest and the luckiest share far to much in common, neither of which has anything at all to do with advancing the human race in a meaningful way. Compassion for others has done far more instead.

 

[theHawk]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Thank God for President Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

I agree with you there...
As a country, we have failed many of our citizens

I consider being a hard worker has advantages!
Unions are definitely not what they used to be...

Umm, what did I manage to fuck up?

Given by the amount of whining you are doing here, your life, happy to have straightened that out for you.

Nothing was taken from me...
I worked for Dominick's Finer Foods,
which I'm sure you're familiar with.

Right. Never shopped there because the service was awful. which is why they aren't in business anymore.

I don't blame poor people for my problems
You came up with that.

But here you are whining that this poor woman is getting treated for a life-threatening condition,and you can't done-der get your teeth fixed.

"MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!!!"

 

[keepitreal]

I agree with you there...
As a country, we have failed many of our citizens

I consider being a hard worker has advantages!
Unions are definitely not what they used to be...

Umm, what did I manage to fuck up?

Given by the amount of whining you are doing here, your life, happy to have straightened that out for you.

Nothing was taken from me...
I worked for Dominick's Finer Foods,
which I'm sure you're familiar with.

Right. Never shopped there because the service was awful. which is why they aren't in business anymore.

I don't blame poor people for my problems
You came up with that.

But here you are whining that this poor woman is getting treated for a life-threatening condition,and you can't done-der get your teeth fixed.

"MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!!!"

I hope her fucking brain explodes!

A douchebag of your magnitude
could cleanse a whale's vagina!

 

[JoeB131]

I hope her fucking brain explodes!

A douchebag of your magnitude
could cleanse a whale's vagina!

Yup, that's what Jesus would have wanted.

I really have to wonder why Right Wingers are generally awful people. It wasn't that way 30 years ago.

I guess when you realize all your bad ideas fail and you can't win without cheating, you just become an awful person.