CDZ I want to know why it is acceptable to exclude homosexuals

"I want to know why it is acceptable to exclude homosexuals"

It should come as no surprise, of course, that no one has been able to provide a rational, objective, documented, factual, and legal reason to exclude gay Americans from the law or from public accommodations, where the courts have consistently invalidated laws seeking to disadvantage gay Americans, and upheld laws prohibiting discrimination of gay Americans with regard to public accommodations.

There's no good reason to exclude anyone. And that's the problem with these laws in the first place. Either we all have a right to not be discriminated against, or none us do.
 
No. One side seeks to demean and discriminate, the other seeks equality.
You think it's okay to force someone to provide a service against their will.

I don't.

If they're bigots, you're making them worse bigots.

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Then you should gladly buy their surrounding infrastructure with your own f****** money
Everyone already gets to use the surrounding infrastructure. Should you have to let anyone come into your house because of the surrounding infrastructure?


Your home is private....you don't have to let anyone come into your house that you don't want to. Unless you were to turn your house into a sort of "public accomodation" where you rent rooms or provide other services, it remains private. If you have a public business, which means it is open to all, then you can't discriminate based on race, religion, age, etc.. Private social organizations as long as they don't pereform any significant public function (they don't operate in a business sense) can limit membership, but each state has rules that they also must comply with.

Public businesses have to follow certain laws for the protection of the public, like for example, install fire hydrants, if that is what the state requires. If the owner doesn't want to, for whatever reason, they are not given a license to operate a business. To not discriminate based on sex, race, age, or sexual orientation, if it is the law, businesses must comply or not operate a business.

The thing is that the businesses are not discriminating against the person based on sexual orientation. The businesses are discriminating based on the product or the service. If the straight father of the groom were to try to hire a very religious photographer to take pictures as his son's same sex wedding, the photographer declines because he objects to same sex weddings. However, a gay man may hire the same photographer to take pictures at a traditional wedding that may have many gays in attendance. Gays have the exact same access to the business as everyone else. Whether the client is straight of gay, there are some things the business owner objects to doing which is his right.

It shouldn't matter why they're refusing service. Thought crimes shouldn't even be on the table, yet, here we are.
 

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